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brigadecommander 10-Mar-13, 20:44	Nf6 is a superb move. anything else and i think white stands much better.This is a sword fight!!! I use three chess sets for analysis. I am running through the variations so quick that i broke the top off the white King.Since my opponent is not taking three days per move,i will not. If he stabs me i will stab back.Its the only Honorable thing to do.
archduke_piccolo 10-Mar-13, 20:59	This is the sort of shambles... ... you get out out of a Wilkes-Barre (Traxler) - a gambit line in the Two Knights' Defence - or a Demolition Derby Gambit (a line in the Grand Prix Attack against the Sicilian Defence in which White gambits a Queen. Here White has 2 minor pieces for the pawn, but against that, both rooks and a bishop underemployed and difficult to mobilize. I'd probably consider 19.Kc2 here, but that automatically throws a piece back: 19...Bxc3 20.Kc3 Rxe2 21.Rd1 At which point White has gone a long way to mobilizing her reserves, but Black has retained a superiority of force in action. Very hard to call it (21...Nf6!? 22.Bg5? Ne4ch)
elyhim 10-Mar-13, 21:00	Deleted by elyhim on 10-Mar-13, 21:03.
brigadecommander 10-Mar-13, 21:05	yes she will loose. A really fine game Sir.I will learn much from it. I will enter it into my personal database with the note....11.Nf3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. please post the final position so all our club mates can learn from it. I close with....Nos morituri te salutant
elyhim 10-Mar-13, 21:16	White resigns Game summary, black chooses the relatively unexplored 8...Nbd7 and in so doing willfully goes down two full pieces for a pawn in order to get a piece of the white's kings hinny. But white will have none of that and decided to play the ultra sharp 12. Kd2!? For those who like nice pretty easy to follow games don't look here. It is all cut throat and sinister traps at every turn. game
archduke_piccolo 10-Mar-13, 21:53	Uh... guys... Looking at that final position, I agree, it looked all up for White. But when it came to concrete continuations, I began to run into some trouble. w After 22.Kc3 after much faffing round with 22...Nd5ch? I finally settled upon 22...Qxe2 as securing strong advantage to Black. But after 22.Kd2 Rxd7ch 23.Ke1 Re7 24.Rd2 Bh6 25.Qa5 ... I don't like 25.Qb4 Nd5, but what comes now? 25...b6 26.Qc3; 25...Re5 26.Qd8ch. Could Black actually survive this? I ran the thing through the GK engine, but it didn't look at 22...Rxd7ch at all...
elyhim 11-Mar-13, 00:13	The shadow of things to come Ion most engines will have difficulty in this type of position because of the multiple threats that exist on the board. From white's perspective you have a +7 advantage in material and the threat of check on d8. However, this threat is bogus. However, what if after 25.Qa5( the only way to protect the rook and stop ...Nd5 at the same time) Kg7! no more check on d8 and black is threating ...Qxg2 with massive material loss for white.
elyhim 16-Mar-13, 11:38	gameknot.com This is a must see, please feel free to make comments. Also do not hesitate to ask questions or suggest alternatives. More than likely it is playable
brigadecommander 16-Mar-13, 18:11	excellent annotation of an excellent game!!
elyhim 27-Mar-13, 16:17	Hitting the high notes Hey everyone, I thought I just let you know that this form discussion has now reached second page status on google!
elyhim 08-Apr-13, 08:08	Continuing the conversation I am continuing the Thematic Benoni series because the wealth of material that will fill these threads will be of the quality of a published book. Not only that most of the games and links cover the last in Benoni theory. gameknot.com
ptitroque 09-Apr-13, 04:01	Tactical question. What if white plays 7. Bf4 and 8. Nd5, attacking black's weak pawn on both side ? I met the situation as black and it was very uncomfortable.
elyhim 09-Apr-13, 06:35	White plays an early ...Bf4 or ...Bg5 [Event "gameknot.com"] [Site "gameknot.com"] [Date "2013.04.09"] [Round "-"] [White "elyhim"] [Black "elyhim"] [Result "*"] 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. Nf3 g6 7. Bf4 * White attacks the weak d6-square immediately. In so doing, disrupts black's development. At this juncture black can handle the early bishop move with 7...a6!? The main idea behind 7...a6 is to aim to play the ideal ...b7-b5 with queen side expansion. This is quite achievable by black since 7.Bf4 is not immediately threatening d6 and therefore black can ignore it for the time being. [Event "gameknot.com"] [Site "gameknot.com"] [Date "2013.04.09"] [Round "-"] [White "elyhim"] [Black "elyhim"] [Result "*"] 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. Nf3 g6 7. Bf4 a6 * After 7...a6 white plays either 8.a4; 8.e4 or 8.Ne4 8. a4 is by far the most common plan slowing the black pawns. However, you asking about 8.Ne4?! Again black can just ignore the build up on d6 with 8...b5 and I do not think white has anything better than 9.Qd3 Be7 10.Nxf6 Bxf6 11. Qe3 Qe7 12. Qxe7 Kxe7 is almost everything that black can hope to acheive [Event "gameknot.com"] [Site "gameknot.com"] [Date "2013.04.09"] [Round "-"] [White "elyhim"] [Black "elyhim"] [Result "*"] 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. Nf3 g6 7. Bf4 a6 8. Ne4 b5 9. Qd3 Be7 10. Nxf6+ Bxf6 11. Qe3+ Qe7 12. Qxe7+ Kxe7 *
ptitroque 11-Apr-13, 04:05	suggestion what about a modern benoni mini tournament ? So that we can practise for real. It could be rated or unrated but it would be interresting to know how many club members would be interrested in ?
alex388 25-Jun-13, 14:54	marked to read
archduke_piccolo 26-Jul-13, 15:27	I was reading through ... ...this thread, and discovered the Latin tag "clamabunt stragemque! et dimit canes Belli!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' This kind of thing appeared in more than one Shakespearian play, but this specific wording is from one of Mark Antony's soliloquies in 'Julius Caesar': 'Cry havoc! and let slip the dogs of war!'
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