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 Election Biden / Trump IIHere is the original thread: m.gameknot.com |
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Original Thread I'm just asking what your thoughts are about the hypothetical situation of what the military tribunal, which you proposed as the ultimate finder of fact, should do if they determine Dominion sabotaged the election. |
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If we consider that Dominion machines or similar ones have been used extensively in the past, care needs to be taken not to invalidate the elections of most elected officials. Proving this fraud could create a virtual earthquake in the US government and other governments. The investigation and prosecution of this fraud is likely to be kept out of public view. The Supreme Court may hear the case and rule in favor of Trump - then the details of prosecutions will be out of public view. If the public becomes aware of the systemic election rigging, it could create a threat to national security. |
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Whether I am OK or not OK with anything is not even a consideration. Myself, as well as most others around the world can just watch. Unless someone here is directly involved with the proceedings, all we can do is say "I see this" or "I see that". |
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It's been an interesting chat. Thanks. |
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If the public becomes aware of the systemic election rigging, it could create a threat to national security.>> Secret tribunals. You have to wonder what Trump's America is coming to! It will be so good to abolish these fascist practices, once Biden is sworn in. Of course, no one will be left to wage war against the pedophile ring dominating the US government once our glorious champion and hero is gone. He can only conduct this brave fight from within the Oval Office, or on the Mar-a-lago links. While he will continue having secret service protection the rest of his life, he'll no longer be in a position to jail pedophile offenders--so many of whom he has sent to prison and the fake news media refuses to report. Paul Manafort. George Popadopoulos, Richard Pinedo, Alex van der Zwaan, Rick Gates... These liberal scumbags would have continued preying on defenseless children in satanic sex rituals until Trump brought them in under his wing and got them convicted. |
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Anyhow, this article shows that she is using QaNon leaders to help make her case: www.businessinsider.com Based on this article in Washington Times, it looks like classica got his military tribunal bit from the disgraced Sidney Powell: Sidney Powell shares post recommending military tribunals review election By Andrew Blake - The Washington Times - Tuesday, December 1, 2020 Conservative lawyers alleging President Trump was the victim of an unproven election fraud conspiracy are calling on him to deploy the U.S. military over his projected defeat to Joseph R. Biden. Sidney Powell, a former member of the Trump reelection campaign’s legal team, shared a post from her popular Twitter account Monday recommending the race be reviewed by military tribunals. L. Lin Wood, Ms. Powell’s co-counsel in lawsuits she filed challenging the results of the election in Georgia and Michigan, said Tuesday that Mr. Trump “should declare martial law,” meanwhile. Each of their posts on the social media platform came as Mr. Trump and his defenders continue to allege without evidence that his loss was the result of fraud and that he was not really beaten. Voting in the presidential race ended Nov. 3, and multiple news outlets began calling it for Mr. Biden on Nov. 7. Weeks later, however, Mr. Trump has yet to admit defeat. Ms. Powell, who had been identified as a lawyer for the Trump campaign until Nov. 22, has since filed lawsuits with Mr. Wood in Georgia and Michigan alleging the elections there were flawed. The post on Twitter that Ms. Powell shared, or retweeted, urged Mr. Trump to use the Insurrection Act of 1807, which empowers the president to deploy U.S. troops domestically in rare circumstances. It also urged Mr. Trump to suspend the upcoming electoral college vote that will cement his loss and to immediately set up military tribunals to resolve purported “cyber warfare” issues at hand. Shared with her more than one million Twitter followers, the tweet Ms. Powell posted on Twitter also said Mr. Trump should postpone Inauguration Day next month, “until this issue is resolved.” Mr. Wood subsequently recommended Mr. Trump declare martial law in a tweet of his own which referred to an online article that suggests having the U.S. military “oversee a national re-vote.” Each of the lawsuits filed in federal court in Georgia and Michigan alleges Mr. Trump was the victim of “massive election fraud.” No evidence has emerged to corroborate that serious claim, however. Instead, the lawyers have cited a range of debunked, discredited or unproven claims and conspiracy theories, such as that ballots cast for Mr. Trump were purportedly “switched” to be for Mr. Biden. Dominion Voting Systems, a manufacturer of election infrastructure mentioned in the lawsuits but not listed as a defendant, said some of the claims they make about its products are “impossible.” Election and security experts from across the public and private sectors have also said they saw no evidence to suggest voting systems used recently were compromised in any way. Inauguration Day is Jan. 20, 2021. |
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larouchepac.com |
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Evidence? And no, none of these have yet to be taken up by a higher court. www.bbc.com Attorney General William Barr stated flat out, "To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election." That sure seems pretty unequivocal. "If the election result is challenged, it usually first requires legal teams to challenge it in the state courts." "State judges would need to uphold the challenge, and the Supreme Court could then be asked be asked to weigh in." So there isn't any real route to bypass the state judicial proceedings, unlike the Supreme Court intervention in the 2000 Florida "hanging chad" election. Biden leads in Pennsylvania by 80,000 votes, with another 10,000 votes postmarked BEFORE the election yet to be counted--and which are expected to increase Biden's substantial lead. Apparently what is left is for Trump to declare martial law and simply declare the 2020 election null and void. In golf he gives himself a do-over whenever he wants. I'm sure he feels the same way about this election. |
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Larouche? I see crazies still posting under his guano psycho banner. |
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Zingers! LOL. Rich. "A new American Revolution is underway in which resolute citizens are moving to educate themselves, to become the 21st Century Latin Farmers, who, like their forefathers, through superior intellect and strength of character, will overthrow that oligarchic superpower known as the modern British Empire, creating a new birth of freedom. There is no turning back now." Whee! Barbara was getting high on rhetoric. "Lawsuits are moving forward in Nevada, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, and Michigan." LOL! Uh, no.43 out of 44 challenges withdrawn or dismissed, with the one lone case stalled. Oh, and this one is GREAT! "In addition to censorship, defamation, and threats, an aspect of the psychological warfare against the President and his supporters involves British and American intelligence assets planting false evidentiary trails and leading honest citizens down internet rabbit holes of unending, fruitless, and impotent speculations." Classica, do you see yourself here? Barbara sure does. Only it isn't British and American intelligence planting the garbage. Q-Anon and others are doing it--hyping every tiny thing the way creationists wage war on science. |
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Military Coup "As President Donald Trump’s legal efforts to overturn the presidential election continue to implode, some of his supporters are now endorsing a military coup. Michael Flynn, Sidney Powell, Lin Wood, Roger Stone, and retired Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney are among the people calling for it. Powell and Flynn have been on Fox since calling for it, and OAN touted McInerney's remarks." www.mediamatters.org |
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A Lyndon LaRouche PAC? Lyndon LaRouche, Sidney Powell, Rudy Giuliani and ImPOTUS: The conspiracy theory dream team! 👍 |
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may have happened. This is no surprise after the four year vendetta the mainstream media has had against the President. As a result, it is necessary to turn to alternative media to find information about this issue to represent my side of this debate. It is sophomoric to assume that I am believing or agreeing with every word that they say, and it is a facile argument to discredit the case based on my limited sources of information. I posted the LaRouche link to summarize the findings of the hours and hours of legal testimony at legislative hearings. Unfortunately, many here seem to believe election fraud is OK, as long as they get rid of Trump. Does anyone care if this is true? The implications of ongoing systemic election fraud virtually nullify the Constitution. Perhaps we should scrap the Constitution and the nation, declare us The North American Union and let an unelected body sort it out. |
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That is exactly what you are proposing to do with military coups and military tribunals. |
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Election Fraud is Ok? As it is, there was no fraud. No credible source alleges there was. Republican governors and state attorney generals in each of the contested states aver there is no evidence of chicanery. The only people pushing conspiracy are this handful of loons. And on the word of these crazies we will overturn a legitimate election so a tyrant wannabe can retain power and avoid prison? |
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Just 27 congressional Republicans acknowledge Biden’s win, Washington Post survey finds www.washingtonpost.com "...220 GOP members of the House and Senate — about 88 percent of all Republicans serving in Congress — will simply not say who won the election...." I guess you are calling 220 members of the US House and Senate "loons" and "crazies", as well. |
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classica |
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Losing I have no idea what that was supposed to mean, though of course lays interpreted it with a sexual connotation. Though it was a great expression for English, spelling. Like i before e except after c or when pronounced A as in neighbor and weigh, except German words like stein and skein, though ancient is an exception in the opposite direction. Their. Their party. You need a smarter phone, Apatzer. Or to delete the list of words inadvertently added to spell check... |
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Tiki Torches For Al Gore the race came down to a single state with a vote difference well under one thousand. He was right to request a recount and would have very likely taken Florida had the state recounted. Hillary lost by far fewer votes of the key states than Trump, and conceded with grace and dignity. Her followers were saddened by the loss, to be sure, given how disastrous Trump has proven to be for our nation and our world. |
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Sidney released the Kraken, but it's not kraking in Michigan "Plaintiffs ask this Court to ignore the orderly statutory scheme established to challenge elections and to ignore the will of millions of voters. This the Court cannot, and will not, do. The people have spoken." "The closest plaintiffs get to alleging that election machines and software changed votes for President Trump to Vice President Biden in Wayne County is an amalgamation of theories, conjecture and speculation that such alterations were possible." news.yahoo.com |
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Somewhat unrelated - yet pertinent. |
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Supreme Court www.cnn.com I think that is now 45 out of 46 court challenges lost. Trump has filed a new request that Nevada reject it's Biden victory. Today was the Safe Harbor day, meaning members of congress are no longer permitted opportunity of issuing their own challenges to state elector slates. Unless I misread the meaning of "Safe Harbor." It was fun watching Trump lose Georgia for the THIRD time. Three independent counts. The third count was by machine, and had Biden in the lead by 12,000 votes, which I think is the same margin as the first count. I'm not sure how far he lead by the hand count. The hand count, as I understand it, narrowed Biden's lead a little bit--previously uncounted ballots were discovered that favored Trump. But the second two counts coincided very closely. |
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