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pawnpusher47 23-Oct-20, 08:44	classica Your last 4 sentences are spot on, well said. This was the plan all along, shut down the economy so it kills President Trumps economy, which was fantastic and help get Joe Biden elected. I have respect for people and will call him by his name, not some derogatory name just because I don't care for his political beliefs which I think along with Kamala Harris and AOC3, who actually run the democratic party, will destroy this country with their ideas, especially open borders and eliminating fossil fuels among many other bad policies.
mikemate 23-Oct-20, 08:55	The cure can not be worse than the disease. We all know that Donald J. Trump was NOT the first person to say that even though he has stated numerous times he coined the phrase "The cure can not be worse than the disease.". www.businessinsider.com
mikemate 23-Oct-20, 08:58	Trump is losing the election mostly because of HIS handling of the virus. There are several other reasons.
apatzer 23-Oct-20, 15:19	That's the thing, because of the way that the owners of America "Goldman sac's and others" who have a puppet in the Whitehouse doing a confidence con on a small portion of the population. With a lot of absolutes and absolutely no specifics. We will have the greatest's heal care in the history of health care, Or I've done more for Africans Americans than anyone other than perhaps Abraham Lincoln. BTW it isn't Trumps economy, it is Goldman sacs' economy , They wrote the Tax reform that Trump didn't read, didn't write and complained about singing. But I digress, If we had handled this pandemic properly We would have been open and pack to very close to normal MONTHS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like other countries! We have a coin shortage, did you know that? They can't even run the federal reserve! But I must say, I have done more for Alpha Centuri than anyone ever, with the exception of perhaps James T Kirk. Why such smart people keep falling for this idiocy that is plain to see! is beyond me. Oh it is some plan to ruin Trumps economy some deep plot. That Trump himself could have easily stopped in it's tracks back in February!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When he told the truth for once to Bob Woodward! But hey this is America you are free to live in a dream world divorced from reality if you wana. We still have more cases and more deaths than any other country on the planet including third world counties,
apatzer 23-Oct-20, 16:12	"we are rounding the corner, We’re Rounding the Corner Beautifully. It will go away soon" ~Trump More BS, say anything BS. Yeah we are rounding the corner into flu season where we get to have both! Oh but he said back in In February, when the federal government had confirmed just 15 cases of the virus, Trump predicted the number would ***soon*** be near "zero." How did that turn out? Feb. 7: 11 confirmed cases in U.S. With warmer weather "virus hopefully becomes weaker with warmer weather, and then gone" ~Trump How did that turn out? It will go away with warm weather, it will go away with cold weather, we are rounding the corner. Why do you people keep believing one bull shit lie after the next??? Seriously? Why? what do you get out of it?
apatzer 23-Oct-20, 16:13	I could of wrote a HUGE list of BULLSHIT quotes and misinformation straight from the Presidents mouth verbatim! But I just did a few.
shirlmygirl 23-Oct-20, 17:09	I am not sure whether droves of people are turning out to vote him in or vote him out. We shall soon find out.
pawnpusher47 23-Oct-20, 17:17	Going to be boring around here if Trump gets voted out, if you think Trump is bad all I can say is watch out for AOC-3, Bernie, Kamala, Schumer, and co. ( oh, Joe too) you won't recognize this country in a few years, as they they watch out what you wish for!?
shirlmygirl 23-Oct-20, 17:21	I am just an interested bystander because I haven't voted for President in the last election nor this one. I didn't want either candidate to be President. I am waiting to see if God takes him down. God sets up kings and takes them down. President Trump is the equivalent of a king, in my opinion.
pawnpusher47 23-Oct-20, 17:26	God help us if Joe Biden is elected, rather have a King then a puppet for sure, and that's all he is going to be for the radical left I believe??
shirlmygirl 23-Oct-20, 17:31	I think Biden is a decent, honorable man. I just don't want to vote Democratic. But we should be careful. We are back into politics again on the wrong thread.
pawnpusher47 23-Oct-20, 17:38	Yes we are, and all this is about a disease that nobody new anything about and to blame it all on President Trump I think is grossly unfair, I don't think anybody would have done much better. This will be my last post on this thread but if you have been in politics for 47 years I have trouble calling any of them honest 🤔
apatzer 23-Oct-20, 18:03	pawnpusher47 Virus Nobody knew anything about? Are you serious? Also the Virus... Sars and other's like it have been studied for decades. Here is President Trump telling Bob Woodward what he knew in early February! Around February 9th youtu.be Does that sound to you like he doesn't know??? Does it? I happen to think that 225,000 Americans who have lost their lives!!! And the multitude's more who have almost lost thier life and now face uncertain long term health problems for the rest of their lives from this completely preventable disease. Is unfair and criminal. Yes God forbid that the blame be placed on the leader of the free world, the man at the top. Who in decades past when we had decent people running the nation. Would put a plaque when they're just saying the buck stops here. Not Trump, he isn't to be blamed for anything, ever
lord_shiva 23-Oct-20, 23:20	What Surge is Long Past? Yesterday more people were infected than on any previous day. The surge is not past, we're on a new one now, and a bigger surge is likely coming--at least until we can replace incompetent leadership with genuine leadership.
apatzer 24-Oct-20, 18:52	LS I am really really sick and mortified by ... Completely ambivalent, apathetic people who are more concerned with their own entertainment than reality or other peoples suffering in this country. They just spout catch phrases that were hand fed to them by others like a brainless parrot. Just as long as someone else and their family is doing the dying right? It is like a hive mind where you are actually talking to the same person over and over. So you mention something that directly contradicts their rambling proving it totally false... and crickets chirp Only for them to double down on their lies or repeat prior regurgitated ( spoon feed BS) Catch phrases. But hey it worked for the Nazis right. It's like how dare you challenge my fantasy world and then either get mad or talk down to me when I persist in telling you 2+2=5 No 2+2 is 4... well where is your proof, your not a mathematician. Ok here is a mathematician who says 2+2=4 fake news, their bias I better just stop here these people remind me of the women who stood in line to marry Ted Bundy Hey don't bash Ted now
lord_shiva 24-Oct-20, 23:03	People Dying Everywhere children crying in despair... If a whole bunch of people have to die so that I can enjoy a beer at a bar instead of at home, that is just a sacrifice I am perfectly willing to make them make. Because masks are slavery. If you don a mask, you receive no personal benefit from your labor. No wage. That is so ludicrous. Wah, Wah. A mask is just such a huge burden, I would prefer two hundred thousand perish miserably than that I should be required to suffer the slightest discomfort, MAGA!
lord_shiva 25-Oct-20, 00:39	Groper is King! He feels entitled o the office puppet master Putin appointed him too, and just as he refused to acknowledge 2016 election results failing to declare him the victor, he will (and already ha) cast doubt on the legitimacy of the 2020 election. He is the most mendacious (lying), corrupt, ignorant, unqualified, and incompetent idiot we have ever elected to ANY public office of which I am aware. 25,000 lies just since lying about the size of his inauguration. Then he demands his close sycophants lie for him, a task far too many are all too willing to do. He fires those with any shred of honesty or integrity. He lied when he told us the reason he lied about the severity of the pandemic (it will be just a few people and then miraculously disappear by March) was to prevent panic. 200,000 Americans are now well beyond panic. They are sick to death of winning so hard. Today I learned my 401(k) has lost over a hundred thousand, which is very sad. So wish we had the Obama/Biden economy back in full swing.
lord_shiva 25-Oct-20, 00:51	Five Hundred Forty Five Children in Groper's "bust up nasty immigrant family" cages cannot be reunited. Groper created this policy o send a message. It is one of Groper's many bald faced lies that AOC, Kamala, or Biden favor open borders. Groper is a liar and gets a lot of mileage repeating this lie. They never have supported open borders--Groper lies. And these lies endear him to his base. They embrace his lies like he was the Father of Lies, MAGA. The strip clubs in the casinos run by holy, divine Groper failed, just as have many of his businesses--some of which were outright fraudulent--like Groper U (aka Trump University). We had eight years of Obama/Biden already, eight good years. I long for a president who does not extort foreign nations into subverting US elections, for which Groper was impeached, or who think a pointless vanity wall on the border Colorado shares with Mexico (ignorance!) will reduce the flw of drugs (more ignorance coupled with vapid stupidity).
shirlmygirl 26-Oct-20, 14:08	VACCINES We know that Classica does not approve of vaccines, but this is an article I cut out and typed out from the Doctors Without Borders pamphlet that I recently received through the mail. "In June 2018, a measles epidemic was officially declared in Democratic Republic of Congo - one of the deadliest outbreaks the country has seen in a decade. Worldwide, measles remains a leading killer of young children, who are particularly vulnerable to this highly contagious disease. There is no known treatment, but low cost measles vaccines are incredibly effective in containing outbreaks and preventing future ones. Our rapid-response teams on the ground are working closely with the Ministry of Health to coordinate a massive vaccination campaign and increase awareness in regions throughout the country. Already, we have vaccinated over 474,000 children. Additional emergency mobile teams are traveling by foot, boat, and motorcyle, using whatever means necessary to reach children in the most remote areas with the lifesaving vaccine."
classica 26-Oct-20, 14:15	I am not opposed to all vaccines. The measles vaccine has been around for many years and has a fairly good track record. Certain vaccines like the MMR (measles mums and rubella) vaccine may be problematic and should be treated with caution. I am opposed to following a vaccine schedule where babies are given many vaccines in a single day. It is important to approach vaccine administration with caution. There are very limited recourse if damages occur. Doing vaccination research may save lifetimes of heartache.
amacivn 26-Oct-20, 14:20	Actual footage ! m.youtube.com And you all thought there was no plan...
apatzer 26-Oct-20, 14:46	amacivn That was hilarious. However anyone who says that Donald Trump and his administration didn't have a plan. Is flat out wrong! President Trump and his administration had a plan and they executed that plan perfectly. In fact aside from some contradicting comments, they couldn't do any better at executing the plan they went with. Also they were up front about since the beginning. They told everyone what the plan was. “We had a lot of people who were saying, ‘maybe we shouldn’t do anything, just ride it.’ They say, ‘ride it like a cowboy, just ride it, ride that sucker right through,’” he said. “I thought about it; I said, ‘maybe we should ride it through.’ ~ Trump While they cajoled people with thoughts of herd immunity. That was and is the plan,
lord_shiva 26-Oct-20, 15:56	Amacivn Well that is really pretty good. When you venture out into the great outdoors with the rapidly changing fall colors, please keep your eyes peeled and a wary lookout for Trump's health care plan. He has claimed four years he has one, but no one has ever seen it. More elusive the bigfoot, the plan so far seems focused on abolishing coverage for pre-existing conditions (over which Trump is suing) and dumping around 40 million nasty poor Americans off the rolls altogether. Once that is achieved and Obamacare is destroyed it can be replaced by even bigger subsidies to our favorite multinational corporations, MAGA. As for vaccine schedules, I recommend following the CDC guidelines established by veritable doctors, instead of whacky schedules dreamed up by antivaxxers. I do greatly appreciate the fact Classica is not an antivaxxer. I just don't yield equal weight to the pronouncements of doctors and circus clowns. Tangentially related, the following video sums up "undecided" voters this election: twitter.com
classica 27-Oct-20, 12:56	Possible Leaked Roadmap for the Next Phase of the Agenda www.youtube.com
classica 28-Oct-20, 11:07	Plandemic endgame: www.youtube.com
apatzer 28-Oct-20, 22:42	Amacivn This is golden. youtu.be
amacivn 29-Oct-20, 01:56	Every Sunday I'm glued to Britbox m.youtube.com Mr Trump is a big target ...
shirlmygirl 29-Oct-20, 09:34	I must say that I hate those portrayals of President Trump. Although I am not in his corner, he is President of the United States and should have some respect. The people elected him after all. And don't contradict that, Lord_Shiva. I know he was finally brought to power through the Electoral College. I have not watched the last two videos but just clicked on them. As soon as I see those images, I don't want to watch them. I suppose Saturday Night Live is similar in the United States. I rarely watch that program either. For those who don't know, my area of the country lost its total internet service this morning, including Seattle, I understand. I am glad to say that it is up and running again now. I suspect hacking.
classica 29-Oct-20, 17:15	Yes this has turned into a Trump bashing thread - very sad. Meanwhile Mr Biden is the innocent babe no one would dare to bash.
lord_shiva 29-Oct-20, 17:32	Contradiction <<The people elected him after all. And don't contradict that, Lord_Shiva.>> LOL. When Republicans nominated Nixon for president, they did not know he was a crook. That is the primary difference between Republicans in the 1960s and those of 2016 and now.
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