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 vaccine injury victims are paid out of the US budget, not out of the obscene profits from the vaccine makers, and also understanding that the condition of autism requires expensive lifelong healthcare amounting to over $2 million over the course of a patient life and "More than 3.5 million Americans live with an autism spectrum disorder (2014)" - if we guestimate that there is a possibility that one million of those with autism were vaccine injuries, the US government would have to pay out over $2 trillion in damages. www.bloomberg.com www.autism-society.org This is a theoretical argument, but it brings up the flaws in the system. Is it much much more cost effective to hide the truth, than it is to pay the damages - theoretically supposing that vaccines do cause autism. Back to facts: 2010 - Family to Receive $1.5M+ in First-Ever Vaccine-Autism Court Award www.cbsnews.com 2007 - The family of 10-year-old Bailey Banks won their case quietly and without fanfare in June of 2007, but the ruling has only now come to public attention. In the remarkably clear and eloquent decision, Special Master Richard Abell ruled that the Banks had successfully demonstrated that “the MMR vaccine at issue actually caused the conditions from which Bailey suffered and continues to suffer.” Bailey’s diagnosis is Pervasive Developmental Disorder — Not Otherwise Specified (PDD-NOS) which has been recognized as an autism spectrum disorder by CDC, HRSA and the other federal health agencies since at least the 1990s. www.huffpost.com big.assets.huffingtonpost.com March 2020 - CDC Admits In Federal Court They Have No Evidence “Vaccines Don’t Cause Autism”: In short, the CDC provided a list of studies that were to claim vaccines did not cause autism, only, none of these studies proved that. Part of the list was a recent review by the Institute of Medicine (IOM), which was paid for by the CDC. This study performed a comprehensive review of studies relating to the DTaP vaccine. It was looking to determine whether or not the vaccine does or does not cause autism. The IOM was unable to identify a single study to support that DTaP does not cause autism. What they did find was a single study that did show an association between DTaP and autism. www.lewrockwell.com |
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Thousands of medical doctors say HCQ works: townhall.com COV death rate cut in half with HCQ and analysis of studies: www.lifenews.com |
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My Pillow Guy |
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Botanical Extract I did not see what flower they were sucking extract from. When my mother was sick she would mix honey with bourbon. Honey, I think, is a botanical extract. Bourbon also one's from a grain. It must have worked because she was almost never sick. There was one bottle of bourbon on the shelf and I am the only one who ever drank any of it. |
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Many people have told me........ When he found out the hive was ruled by queens he cancelled the project. Later in a tweet the Orange One dismissed Mum's Hoax Cure as fake news and 'Wino Lord Shiva is a failed never trumper with the worst tv EVER. FOX News has gone to the dogs.' Everyone in the Whitehouse is apparently relieved he did not find out the 3 Queen bees involved were called Hillary, Kamala, and Nancy. It is not known who helped the president spell TV but he did speak to his sugar daddy Putin earlier in the day. No details were given about the call other than it was an important issue so whilst spelling is our best guess on the subject of this call we have to leave this to your imagination. . |
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A good thing I will reveal about President Trump - the Peace Accord between Israel and the Palestinians, but it seems that many Palestinians don't like it that much and are protesting. Jarad officiated in that. Correct me if I am wrong. Perhaps that was what Trump was talking to Putin about. |
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Peace Accord www.cfr.org If this is Jared Kushner's doing (who is also on top the Opioid Epidemic, diplomatic relations with Mexico and China, reforming veteran health care, and reinventing government to make it work more like a business. Honestly, this deal is a pretty remarkable achievement--even if it was achieved with F35 bribes. I'm not sure we want the UAE to have our drone and jet fighter technology, but if it can help create (I almost wrote "restore" but there was nothing to restore) relations between the Arab world and Israel then it may be worth it. The UAE will not build an embassy in Jerusalem. Plans have not progressed this far yet, but if they DO build an embassy it will most likely be in Tel Aviv, where everyone else has an embassy, and which is Israel's business and financial center. Tel Aviv is a beautiful modern city. Jerusalem is a nasty, dirty slum. It has nice historical significance, but really it isn't a whole lot better than Jericho (a Palestinian held city East of Jerusalem). I haven't been to Jericho, but I did drive past it. I never realized from the Bible stories just how close these two cities are--Jericho is on the West Bank just over a low summit from Jerusalem. Less than one day's journey by foot. Kudos to the Trump administration if they manage to pull this off. I believe the goal is to get the entire Arab world to swing around, and the Palestinians will be dragged along with them. When I went to Israel I told them NOT to stamp my passport. They stamped a piece of paper I could insert instead. The reason is that, while I would have LOVED an Israeli stamp, that stamp would prohibit me from traveling to most other Arab countries. If you go to Israel, do it when your passport is about to expire. Otherwise Saudi Arabia. Lebanon, and a host of others won't permit entry. I am glad the UAE has agreed to normalize relations, finally. Yes--three cheers for Jared! |
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atticuspund 20-Aug-20, 09:50 |
Perhaps the club title should be changed to something more appropriate so that others don't make the same mistake. |
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CoroVirus Circulation IV The most active threads (aside from this one) have been on the "smart challenge" and an online program for creating matches, guarding against timeouts, games, and so on. Most of the threads seem to be appropriately titled. If you are disturbed by the virus thread I just skip reading it. Or if you wanted to be ironic, you could start a political thread on why "Team Captains" shouldn't have threads regarding current events. I'd be up for that. In off topic news, Magnus Carlson won a game using a brilliant sacrifice while playing hurt--he hurt his back swimming. chess24.com |
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Shirley! But, Shirley, please don't go off me❣ It's too late in life for me to find another girlfriend. 🥰 |
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LOL! Did anyone catch that I tried to introduce the completely off topic "Magnus Carlsen" subject? Very sorry I mispelled Carlsen's name--it is "EN," not "on". The spell check suggested I change it and so I went with that instead of looking it up. My very bad. I'd start a list of my most common failings, beginning with being a vexing thorn in Shirley's side, but then the list would grow to encompass Pete's list and make his look small and tawdry in comparison. Pete's list of personal failures would be like a ramshackle shack next to my grandiose Trump Tower of shortcomings. "Tallest building in all of New York City, now that Arab terrorists toppled the WTC." What a guy! And his brother's funeral. I can see why John McCain and John Lewis (neither of whom were noted chess players--so far as I know) did not wish him to attend their funerals. "My brother Richard was never jealous of my accomplishments. I had great success in business, and he never turned green with envy." This is the best thing Trump could think of to say about his dead brother. You can see why people love him so much! |
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hcqtrial.com 188 references |
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No Defense scitechdaily.com Treatment for moderate to severe cases of Covid-19 have also proven ineffective. Whether it has any benefit in early stages of the disease remains to be seen--that issue is still under study. For the most part, the drug has simply not panned out, which is too bad because it is fairly cheap and easy to make--and Pakistan has suppliers willing to flood the US market. It would have been an excellent trade deal for them, without much burden on quality controls. So Groper has turned to a new drug recommended by the "My Pillow" guy, Oleandrin. It is a toxic plant extract that cures not only Covid, but anything else that ails you. I mean, in sufficiently large doses, the way lead accelerated to 1200 feet per second (through the back of the skull) cures everything too. |
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Lord Shiva are you on drugs? No way will any American beat my list of failure. with the big fish including the market we left. We will fail to do this with old Etonians that cant negotiate but think we are world beaters who are going to be gifted the most favouable deals imaginable. Sure I can find 189 references from somewhere. Just give me a bit of time. |
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Conspiracy Site sciencebasedmedicine.org Quote: Late last week, a “study” published on HCQTrial.com by an anonymous source claiming to be a group of PhD scientists went viral. It claimed that countries that used hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 had a 79% lower fatality rate than those who didn’t. It was horrible science and quickly debunked on Twitter by several epidemiologists. That didn’t stop it from going viral. Disinformation like this during a pandemic is one of the most dangerous challenges we face. David Gorski on August 10, 2020 When you do a "whois" on the site you find the technical contact to be: Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 1247815423 96 Mowat Ave, Toronto, ON, M4K 3K1, ca (p) So a Canadian guy has registered a web site on a server hosted in Council Bluffs, Iowa. The website was created: 24 days old Created on 2020-07-27 When you cite "188 references" all from the same highly suspect source, it is kind of like drinking from the toilet bowl. The water is clean, or mostly clean, if freshly flushed. But this source doesn't smell like its been freshly flushed in the past 24 days. You know what I mean? |
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using HCQ as standard protocol had significantly fewer deaths per million. Data represents approximately 1.5 billion subjects. There are 188 references. The prohibition of HCQ in the US and other countries is a crime against humanity. From our previous discussion about vaccines, the profit motive is clear. |
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Pete On the other hand, you have us on Brexit. Nothing Groper has done compares to that unmitigated disaster. Not our wall, nor our relentless attack on our own postal service. Groper has been like a thousand paper cuts, whereas Brexit was like taking aim NOT at just the big toe, or a foot, but kneecapping with a double barrel 10 gauge. www.urbandictionary.com But we were comparing personal failings as opposed to national failings. And you know--I think it wise if we just not try to outdo each other on that. So I'll happily concede if that's what it takes. |
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Classica I'm happy to examine any legitimate source you might find, but I'm just not into squeezing corn kernels out of stool samples, no matter how fresh. There may be a more diplomatic way of phrasing this. I will think about it. I could produce something without risk of a bleeding hemorrhoid. Is the word "bleeding" acceptable in polite society in Great Britain, Pete? I know it is ok to say, "oh, that is a blood soaked rag," but not "look, you sawed-off sod, you got that rag all bloody." |
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US deaths per million: 534 UK: 609 Greece: 23 Ukraine: 50 Turkey: 72 www.worldometers.info |
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In case you weren't paying attention Poll of 6,000 MD's say HCQ effective. Gov Cuomo shuts down HCQ studies. www.youtube.com Dr Shiva MD and Senate candidate for Massechusetts: www.youtube.com vashiva.com ...why is the CDC recommending that anyone traveling to a country with Malaria, which is more than half of the world, take chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine or other quinine derivative drugs as chemoprophylaxis. In other words, the CDC is advocating the use of hydroxychloroquine for people with no illness, so as to prevent them from possibly getting malaria in their travels. This is straight from the CDC. wwwnc.cdc.gov HCQ has been considered safe for over 60 years. To further illustrate the pushing of a dangerous misinformation agenda, State Rep. Karen Whitsett, D-Detroit is being censured by the Demoncrat party for using hydroxychloroquine to save her life: www.detroitnews.com 22 Studies on Hydroxychloroquine effectiveness docs.google.com (Thanks to pawntifex) May 6, 2020 Dr Faucci's own report on the effectiveness of HCQ www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov jamesfetzer.org spectator.org Further indication that hydroxychloroquine therapy may be safe: www.ahajournals.org Remdesivir: "Per Oppenheimer analyst Hartaj Singh, the coronavirus drug being tested by biotech firm Gilead Sciences (NASDAQ:GILD) could cost between $50 and $100 a patient. www.ccn.com Hydroxychloroquine: $0.37 ea 200 mg www.drugs.com Azithromycin: $0.74 ea 250 mg www.drugs.com Press release about Remdesivir: www.statnews.com Follow the money... Texas Nursing Home HCQ Success www.fox7austin.com HCQ study in France with 1061 patients www.sciencedirect.com May 16, 2020 Dr. Deborah Birx said 'there is nothing from the CDC that I can trust'. www.businessinsider.com This medical doctor is having 100% positive results with hydroxychloroquine and she is being prevented from getting the drug. Meanwhile, the CDC says everyone should take the drug who is going out of the country to Malaria regions. twitter.com Ban on HCQ lifted in Texas thetexan.news 41 studies showing a 91% success rate with HCQ drive.google.com Costa Rica having big success against COVID with HCQ qcostarica.com ___________________________________ There are $100's of billions to be made on therapies and vaccines other than HCQ. Follow the money... This is not like the vulgar and rude counter-arguments that have been posted at a 5:1 ratio. It seems obvious from the tenure of the opposing argument that all they have to rely on is : From the 25 rules of engagement for disinformation: "5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left-wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviates”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues." vigilantcitizen.com The truth always wins. |
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Truth Wins From your Science Direct: A total of 2.3% of patients reported mild adverse events (gastrointestinal or skin symptoms, headache, insomnia and transient blurred vision). Conclusion Administration of the HCQ+AZ combination before COVID-19 complications occur is safe and associated with a very low fatality rate in patients. ----------------- The conclusion of the study was that the drug treatment itself was safe, not that it was effective. We all acknowledge this. The original VA study that showed higher death rates for HCQ treatment was absolutely flawed, which this subsequent study revealed. You are right about that, sir. But treatment with distilled water would be both JUST as safe, and JUST as effective. HCQ has not shown any improvement over the placebo, and THAT is the problem with it. We all wish it worked. It doesn't. And that is sad. |
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Maybe If the jury is out, then I don't hold to any opinion. For example, we understand there was an anisotropy in the early universe resulting in a tiny imbalance between matter and antimatter. Most of the matter and antimatter annihilated, with what scant matter remains accounting for the vast clouds of interstellar gas (nebula), a tiny fraction of which has coalesced into stars. We have no real idea what caused that imbalance, it is an unresolved mystery. So I don't hold an opinion as to what caused that. God, maybe. Or, how did live arise from non living matter? No one has a clue. It is completely opaque--an utter mystery. We don't come CLOSE to replicating that. If we ever do create life from non life via natural means (like the amino acid production) we still won't know that is the way it happened on Earth, but at least we can say it probably happened in some similar manner. But living matter is hideously more complex than any non biological matter. We just don't see any way of getting from there to here. As for HCQ, the jury I respect consists of medical professionals and researchers who have carefully examined the issue and issued a verdict. Now, there may come a day when new evidence overturns that verdict. But as it stands the evidence is both clear and compelling--HCQ--while a decent drug for lupus, some forms of arthritis, and of course to prevent or ameliorate malaria infection--has zero impact on Covid. Once again--we all wish otherwise. But wishing never filled a bread basket. |
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Science Science didn't really get its start until Galileo. He honed the scientific method pretty well. Before him there was a lot of shooting in the dark, trial and error kind of stuff. After Galileo the world changed dramatically. Now granted, 1770 was 160 years after 1610 (when Galileo was working his magic). But scientific principles hadn't really invaded medicine by then--we were just barely beginning to works a few things out by the early 19th century. There was a lot of social stigma associated with cutting up cadavers to learn anatomy, and medical texts were sometimes based on dogs or other creatures where errors related to human anatomy continued to be copied a thousand years. I don't know why doctors were so slow to adopt science, but the guy who said, "wash your hands" was poo-poohed. "A gentleman's hands are never dirty," was the typical retort. So doctors sickened their patients with unsanitary practices well into the 20th century. By the 1920s (a mere century ago) we started getting a little more sterile. Today we have people insisting face masks are filthy and cannot reduce the spread of germs or viruses. Can you believe it? 2020 and they suggest injecting disinfectant into the lungs "does a tremendous number on the lungs," and other silly things. I've seen posts on social media insisting that wearing a mask is just like loading into a boxcar to go off to Nazi ovens. Insane! In the 1830s a French physician studied bloodletting closely and realized it was a sham. But practice is really hard to overcome, and prejudices difficult to extinguish. Medical practice was almost a religious belief, informed by ancient Greek philosophy of "bodily humors" that took centuries to dispel. Even today medicine tends to be among the weakest of sciences, with a lot of quacks and quackery firmly believed by people--homeopathy being one prime example. |
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