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shirlmygirl
06-Aug-19, 14:14

Did knightemplar-1 make a personal request to you in this regard, Robert? I am sure he didn't make it to king_0_nothing. I am rather "ticked off" about his despicable post on the PEOPLE WHO CHEAT thread, July 24th, which has now been deleted. If knightemplar-1 had just kept quiet in the first place, and ALSO not published his derogatory description of this Club on his team page (it is still there, by the way, I just checked), the entire subject would just have faded away with no further comments. He stirred up the situation again. He must have had a spurt of anger when he saw my post immediately above his now deleted post. The sight of my name triggered it. The man doesn't even have the good sense to remove the post from his team page. He is including every member of this Club in that description.
apatzer
06-Aug-19, 14:56

Hi Shirley
No he did not request it. I did. I explain why in my follow up post regarding this issue. I didn't mean to start anything. Nor am I saying anyone did anything wrong. I will write a more detailed explanation if you wish, but I have to get back to work now.


shirlmygirl
06-Aug-19, 15:00

I will certainly let the matter drop, Robert, unless knightemplar-1 aggravates the situation still further.
urbanascott
14-Sep-19, 21:23

As an FYI, The Knights of the Crystal Castle have withdrawn our membership in "Smart Challenge."
bearz2
01-Oct-19, 04:21

So Kighttemplar or however it was spelt...is now sam_barroqueiro
Hmm....his not in a happy place....yet ...i asked him to remove the team and i know others have and it isn't happening without an argument.
As a Captain on a team ..i expect that removal from the smart challenge would be easy ...but then we do get the BLOCK. from him .
Teams that have changed their name...LOL...are still on it,and hey don't exist.
Hmm

I'm not here to argue nor make waves....but he need to listen to other teams requesta...
And Hello Shirlly....
Yes yo got me back...
Enjoy!!
shirlmygirl
01-Oct-19, 19:49

Welcome back, Fred (bearz2). Shirley.  
mikemate
04-Mar-20, 07:31

Deleted by mikemate on 04-Mar-20, 07:38.
mikemate
04-Mar-20, 07:38

"Due to the effectiveness of the project SMART CHALLENGES, I have only 5 eligible players
available for matching. Remember, the 19 participating teams have first priority over the
remaining 189 that remain outside the program."

This is posted by a Captain in the Open Challenges.

So, it is a cult?
shirlmygirl
04-Mar-20, 11:08

Very good sales pitch by Sam. There are no co-captains. I could say more but I won't.
mikemate
11-May-20, 18:47

My post right above Shirley's is true! I just experience it after sending a very reasonable challenge
that was eventually responded to by substituting one of the players I requested. unfortunately the
substitution was a much stronger player with 18% timeouts.

I declined with a note asking if the player I requested was 3 day instead of the 5 day as
challenged. The response was "It's OK, Mike. Some SMART CHALLENGE captain is going after
him in a few minutes!"

So now I know.
shirlmygirl
11-May-20, 19:01

I am not sure what that means, Mike. Can you explain more?
mikemate
11-May-20, 19:07

In other words that Captain didn't want a fair match, wanted a lopsided match instead. The player
I requested that he did not assign, that he said would be assigned to a SMART CHALLENGE team,
is still available, presumably waiting to scooped up be "Some SMART CHALLENGE captain".

So, I could not get the match because we are not in the SMART CHALLENGE.
shirlmygirl
11-May-20, 19:52

I understood that he didn't want the match that you suggested, which I am quite sure was fair. What I didn't understand was the captain's response, as follows: "It's OK, Mike. Some SMART CHALLENGE captain is going after him in a few minutes!" So now I do understand. Thank you, Mike.
neurokarma
11-May-20, 22:49

The following is the list of "smart" challenge teams:

🔷~*~ THE CRUSADERS ~*~ gameknot.com Consortium Founder and Director. 🔷🔷🔷
🔷INTREPIDOS gameknot.com
🔷TEAM PORTUGAL gameknot.com
🔷ENGLAND gameknot.com
🔷IHS TEAM ITALIA gameknot.com
🔷TEAM FINLAND & INT. FRIENDS gameknot.com
🔷SCANDINAVIAN TEAM gameknot.com
🔷ROMANIA gameknot.com
🔷THE RED, WHITE AND BLUE CHESS TEAM gameknot.com
🔷ALL STARS HONOURED gameknot.com
🔷GETICA INTERNATIONAL gameknot.com
🔷COWBOYS AND COWGIRLS OF THE OLD WEST gameknot.com
🔷CHESS WARRIORS gameknot.com
🔷THE OUTCASTS gameknot.com
🔷** THE FIGHTING WARRIORS ** gameknot.com
🔷♔ IMMORTAL KINGS ♔

Having a look at the team ladder and the various positions of these teams, I don't think their system is working too well.
joveyboy1
11-May-20, 22:57

Chess Warriors? I haven’t used that name for my team for well over a year now I think. And I...may have blown my top a bit on the Captain there, when I misunderstood him on something. I still hate that I did that. I’m pretty sure my team is no longer part of it though. Their list says otherwise, technically.
sad_but_true
12-May-20, 01:03

lol, i saw the ladder as well, had a bit of a laugh. Hmm i feel so 2nd rate now, the back up plan
mikemate
12-May-20, 04:32

I'm very happy that neurokarma named the teams that I will from this day forward NOT send a
challenge. I may accept their challenge but maybe not.
mikemate
12-May-20, 04:54

I was not going to name the team and Captain that prompted my post yesterday. After he sent
me this private message a little while ago I changed my mind. For full disclosure this was the
2nd message from the founder of the SMART CHALLENGE. If anyone wants to read the first
message contact me. I do not want to post it here.

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From sam_barroqueiro
Hello, mikemate,
What a stupid waste of time and effort for not understanding something that has nothing to do do
with you. You must be an immature reenager, I guess!

mikemate
12-May-20, 05:05

And I will certainly argue that the SMART CHALLENGE does affect every Captain/co-Captain that
makes team pairings.
mikemate
12-May-20, 05:44

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From sam_barroqueiro
Hello, mikemate,

I developed the SMART CHALLENGE project when I re-assembled my second team THE CRUSADERS. The intention was to automate the the players matching and give 10 teams' captains & co-captain more free time to do other personal stuff. I selected the best 10 teams in GK that i had been dealing with since 2005 almost in a personal way. Those 10 teams became the founding fathers of SMART CHALLENGES. As other captains became aware of the existence of this kabbalah, I couldn't refuse their requests to join the group. 10 became 21. The only requirement was to have the management of each team to go through the kabbalah to initiate challenges before challenging teams outside the group. With 21 teams, our 40 odd captains and co-captains had it made... in less than 15 minutes they could find any number of games needed for their players. I had placed my team at the top of the list, so I was the first team that EVERYBODY hit when they got out of bed in the morning. 21 teams were far too many. The original 10 would have been ideal and really enough. I have asked the group that if any member wants to leave, for any reason, to please do it without any prejudice. We are now 16. There are outside teams, like Lucifer's Army, who use SMART CHALLENGES as if they were a member and, I for one treat them as such. We are an elitist group by definition by giving 100% percent priority to Kabala members. Each captain handles this player-matching system on his own terms. One of my "rules" is that I make Friday through midnight Sunday exclusively available to members. Any other time is First-Come-First=Served. Your team is very welcome to challenge the 16 teams listed in THE CRUSADERS page.
SAM
_____________________________________________________________________

After reading this do you think that the SMART CHALLENGE "has nothing to do do with you"
as stated by Sam.
shirlmygirl
12-May-20, 10:32

I see Sam is still right on form with this above posted message to Mike:

"From sam_barroqueiro
Hello, mikemate,
What a stupid waste of time and effort for not understanding something that has nothing to do do
with you. You must be an immature reenager, I guess!"

Personally, I never play that team and I have had the captain and co-captains on ignore so they can't challenge my team, since Sam's disgraceful posts on another thread quite some time ago. He doesn't seem to be able to help his behavior and doesn't have the good sense to know that this behavior affects his team and any team associated with the Smart Challenge. Most of those teams, I believe, do not know the history but I do know that some teams have asked to be removed from Smart Challenge.


apatzer
12-May-20, 22:12

Mikemate
His arrogant comments only served to define himself.
mikemate
13-May-20, 03:10

Deleted by mikemate on 13-May-20, 03:11.
mikemate
13-May-20, 03:14

sam_barroqueiro: " I had placed my team at the top of the list, so I was the first team that
EVERYBODY hit when they got out of bed in the morning." This shows the reason the SMART
CHALLENGE was started.

He has been reported from a PM sent yesterday.
urbanascott
13-May-20, 20:15

Shirley is correct. Our team did indeed ask to be withdrawn from that group. It was set up before my time, and when I started asking what it was and realizing we got nothing out of, Classica and I agreed to immediately withdraw from it. From what I could tell, we never got a match out of it. I personally didn’t like the clique concept and could not understand why I would want to limit our team to just those few teams in their group or give preferred status to someone. Don’t tell Sam, but we match with some of those teams anyhow. I personally made matches with five of those teams in the last week. Didn’t need to be in a clique for that.
bearz2
13-May-20, 23:48

That's OK...i got the same thing and got given a hard time trying to remove a team.
shirlmygirl
14-May-20, 08:38

Scott
My team plays a good number of those teams also. I think they are blissfully unaware of Smart Challenge and probably don't play them anyway.

I am rather curious about the pm which Mike reported to GameKnot.
mikemate
14-May-20, 08:41

Shirley, it was similar to this message from above but a little more spicy.

From sam_barroqueiro
Hello, mikemate,
What a stupid waste of time and effort for not understanding something that has nothing to do do
with you. You must be an immature reenager, I guess!
shirlmygirl
14-May-20, 08:46

Yes, I saw that one when you first posted it, Mike.
mikemate
14-May-20, 08:55

I don't mind saying that Gameknot did act on him with a warning. My guess is one more complaint
like that one will get him silenced. We can disagree, we can even argue, but we cannot demean players.
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