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lord_shiva
06-May-20, 13:11

Treaties
US law says we will not topple foreign dictators--though we routinely ignore that at our convenience. Here the Trump administration promised rewards to soldiers of fortune for capturing Venezuela's Maduro. That went over like a lead balloon, Bay of Pigs style.

www.thedailybeast.com
classica
06-May-20, 14:49

COV good news!
It seems the pandemic has helped cause a ceasefire in Yemen.
They may be on the path to peace!

www.reuters.com
urbanascott
06-May-20, 16:06

Why follow the money??
Who care if Remdesivir costs more than Hydroxychloroquine. Remdesivir works. Hydroxychloroquine kills. Why would I want the cheaper drug? Again, it KILLS!

Also, Fauci has never said that Hydroxychloroquine works or that it is even safe. Just because the CDC finds is safe to use for malaria, that doesn't mean it is safe for Covid-19.

Classica is right about one thing: Breitbart is indeed "information warfare." Actually, in their case it is MISinformation warfare.

MikeMate, no I would never consider Breitbart to be a "news source." this is an ultra right-wing lobbying group with a website. That doesn't make them journalists or news sources. In addition, these whacky YouTube videos that someone keeps posting here are NOT news sources either. Just because any whacko can make a video in their parent's basement doesn't mean that the are journalists and their products could be considered "news." Heck, most of the ones I have seen posted here are nothing but outright lies designed to rile up the extreme right.
classica
06-May-20, 16:35

Scott:
You might have missed this from Fauci's own study:
"Chloroquine, a relatively safe, effective and cheap drug used for treating many human diseases including malaria, amoebiosis and human immunodeficiency virus is effective in inhibiting the infection and spread of SARS CoV in cell culture. " No deaths reported.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

You also might have missed these 22 studies conducted this year:
docs.google.com No deaths reported either.

I have more respect for independent citizen journalists than
the pro's in the mass media who take their orders from the
six corporations who own them or get fired.
classica
06-May-20, 16:47

And does it matter whether Breitbart or any other source
published the article --> Rep. Guy Reschenthaler is on audio
saying Pelosi is blocking the investigation into the COV origins
and instead wants to focus on the President's supposed misdeeds.
Breitbart is just the vessel - Rep. Guy Reschenthaler is the story.
Are you saying the Congressman from Pennsylvania is making up
stories? This is not an "undisclosed source" like the mainstream
media is famous for. Look at all the hullabaloo about Kim Jong-un.
classica
06-May-20, 17:46

It looks like CBS is broadcasting fake news:
www.youtube.com 336K views

From Project Veritas
mikemate
06-May-20, 17:53

If someone says "um" over and over with every pause, he will be able to be identified.
urbanascott
06-May-20, 17:58

You are really citing 2005 study about the safety of using Chloroquine for a virus that did not exist until late 2019? Really? 2005?

You do understand that many Covid-19 patients have compromised respiratory and circulatory systems and that Chloroquine can, and does, kill people in such a condition. You see, that has been proven in a 2020 studies on actual Covid-19 patients. Not a 2005 article about the drug being used on people who did not have Covid-19. All corona viruses are not the same. Might be why this is called a "novel" coronavirus.

Guy Reschenthaler? Really7? A first term minor congressman. Gee, another Republican making lies about Pelosi. How novel. This guy is just making crap up. Why, because Trump hates Pelosi since she basically owns his butt!

Pelosi is NOT blocking any investigation. (She couldn't!) Show me one REAL source quoting Pelosi on this matter. Prove that she actual said or wrote this! I just did a news search on this claim, and all that comes up is this unknown first year congressman saying it on a Breitbart radio show. That doesn't mean squat. He is just following his leader, the Liar in Chief. It is really a shame: it seems like almost all Republican's think it is okay to make baseless lies because their commander does.

The person that is trying to thwart an investigation is Trump by blocking Fauci from appearing in front of a congressional committee this week that is reviewing the administration's response to the coronavirus (or the lack of a response until mid-March). Fauci has a habit of telling the truth, so Trump doesn't want him to be questioned in the House. Gee, what could ImPOTUS be hiding???
urbanascott
06-May-20, 18:01

'"Are you saying the Congressman from Pennsylvania is making up stories?"

YES, yes I am.

PROVE that she said or wrote that.
classica
06-May-20, 18:17

The 2005 study:
Virol J. 2005; 2: 69.
Published online 2005 Aug 22. doi: 10.1186/1743-422X-2-69
PMCID: PMC1232869
PMID: 16115318

Are you saying the gov faked the dates?

The President is smart to hold back Fauci:
"BREAKING: A month before 2016 election, NIH's Dr. Anthony Fauci & his Hillary-donating Democrat wife Christine Grady attended a DC party co-hosted by Hunter Biden's ex-wife + other anti-Trump Dem activists, inclg[including] Obama aides Valerie Jarrett & Jeh Johnson t.co

— Paul Sperry (@paulsperry_) April 8, 2020 "

This is yet another attempt at a smear campaign on Trump, isn't it obvious.
Fauci advised against stopping travel to and from China in January.
classica
06-May-20, 18:48

"The NIH funded EcoHealth Alliance, which then, in turn, turned around and partially funded the Wuhan Institute of Virology,” Reschenthaler told Breitbart News. “The DOD also gave EcoHealth Alliance $6.5 million in a grant, and like you said, that grant was to understand bat-borne zoonotic disease in context with weapons of mass destruction. So what I’m trying to find out is whether or not the DOD funding that went to EcoHealth also went to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. We know that the NIH funding did, and we also know that all money is fungible, but I want to see if we can trace that money to Wuhan to see how much and to what extent the DOD and American taxpayers actually funded the Wuhan Institute of Virology.”

What is perhaps most interesting about all this is how little the Democrats on Capitol Hill seem to care about the origins of the virus in Wuhan, China, or about U.S. taxpayer dollars flowing to this lab in China. Many Democrats have brushed off holding China accountable for the virus and, instead, intend to focus their efforts on attacking President Trump over the Chinese coronavirus. Pelosi, whose Articles of Impeachment effort against Trump failed in grand fashion this year as the U.S. Senate acquitted the president, has even launched the creation of a select committee to investigate the Trump administration’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic — a select committee that Republicans are considering boycotting."

Believe what you like but he said that. Opinion? Probably.
Based on the Dem track record, it's probably true.
urbanascott
06-May-20, 18:54

I am saying that a 2005 article about the effectiveness of ANY drug for a virus that didn't exist until 2019 is totally irrelevant. I am not saying there are fake dates. I am saying the article predates the virus and thus us meaningless in this context.

Now you are slamming Fauci? Really? You do realize that Americans trust Fauci far, far more than they trust Trump. Polls are pretty dramatic on this.

You post a picture of Fauci and his wife at a party and that is supposed to prove something? Even if Fauci's wife donated money to Hillary, who cares? That means nothing. All it shows is that Fauci has a smart wife.

This Trump BS that if someone voted for Hillary or Obama then everything they say and do must be evil is ridiculous. Now you are actually attacking the scientist.

Everything that Trump is trying to prevent Fauci from saying will come out. You want to stifle the scientist. Brilliant!
classica
06-May-20, 19:08

Fauci advised against the China travel ban in January.
Fauci was involved with "gain of function" (GoF) research on COV IE Bioweapon research.
Fauci may have been instrumental in transferring and funding the research in Wuhan.
Fauci misrepresented the projected outcome of the mortality rate, and just
recently the CDC adjusted their death count to 37K from 60K.
Fauci said with certainty in 2017 that a pandemic would occur in the Trump administration.

There are real reasons to be suspicious of Dr Fauci.

Additionally, I have seen scientific evidence that COV-19 is similar
to the COV studied in 2005, and the studies cited - conducted in 2020 -
support this claim.
urbanascott
06-May-20, 19:17

Man, you have really been drinking the Trump Kool-aid.

I suggest 48 Chloroquine pills and 2 gallons of vitamin C for you, stat! That is the only cure!
Hurry, you are really losing it. Need some Chloroquine now!
classica
06-May-20, 19:22

They did something like that - but more abruptly - with Seth Rich;
however, the truth will come out, nonetheless. 🤷‍♂️
classica
06-May-20, 19:40

And now an Italian prospective on the COV pandemic:
www.youtube.com

WWG1WGA! (Where we go one we go all)
urbanascott
07-May-20, 01:56

Please, No QaNon Slogans Here!
Please, please do not post QaNon slogans like WWG1WAG here. That has been labeled a domestic terrorist group by the FBI: thehill.com
www.vice.com

I find what they say and do to be repulsive. They are an anti-Semitic hate group that dabbles in the craziest conspiracy theories: www.adl.org

QaNon is supported by groups as like white nationalists and the Klan. These “good people” were on display in Charlottesville a couple of years ago. Just because they are Trump lovers, and attend his rallies in large groups wearing QaNon shirts and hats, doesn’t mean it is acceptable to promote their slogans here. www.clickondetroit.com
theweek.com

Sites like Facebook can’t remove QaNon accounts fast enough! www.haaretz.com.
I wonder if GameKnot has a policy about not posting QaNon slogans on this site? Will need to bring it to their attention tomorrow.

pawntificator
07-May-20, 02:16

Where we go one we go all. Believe it or not.
classica
07-May-20, 04:10

Why believe second hand information, when you can
see for yourself: qmap.pub

As you can see there are people of all nationalities
posting WWG1WGA on twitter from many countries.

The expression comes from the movie White Squall.
The demoncrats and the media dislike Q and Q+ intensely
because they do not want us united. They will say whatever
lies and propaganda to stop the people from unifying and
demanding truth, justice and freedom - principles the
original Superman TV series instilled into many of us with
their opening credits.

In the US, as long as Liberty and Free Speech has not been
totally stamped out - as it is in China - I will speak my mind
and follow whom I like and proceed in a peaceful and lawful
way - harming no one.
classica
07-May-20, 05:57

Another HCQ success story
www.fox7austin.com
classica
07-May-20, 06:20

HCQ study in France with 1061 patients
www.sciencedirect.com

Patients without any adverse event 1036 (97.6%)

Regarding specifically the 8 patients who died after having received HCQ+AZ ≥ 3 days, their median age was 79 years (74–95 years) (Table 5). Six patients (75%) reported hypertension and one active cancer. Severity at admission was observed with a NEWS score ranging from 5 to 11 (mean 7.75) and low dose CT scan performed on 4 patients revealed intermediate to severe pneumonia involvement. All deaths resulted from respiratory failure and not from sudden death. All had repeated ECG with none showing torsades de pointe. Finally, mean HCQ dosage at day 2 was 0.162 including one patient with a blood level lower than 0.10 μg/mL. As of 18th of April, 2020, 33 of 46 patients in the PClinO group are now cured. Accordingly, 1048 (98.7%) of patients who received the HCQ+AZ combination are cured so far.

So now I have provided 25 studies showing HCQ can
cure this disease. How many need to be provided before
one can see the mainstream media is peddling disinformation
and fake news.
sad_but_true
07-May-20, 07:05

"I stopped explaining myself when i realized people only understand from their level of perception"
classica
07-May-20, 07:32

41 seconds about change:
www.youtube.com
lord_shiva
07-May-20, 08:09

Q
<<Guys, I have a friend that's a pilot and he just took this picture of Hilary being transported to a cell at Mar-a- Lago! It's deploying countermeasures because Soro's private air force is trying to rescue her!!! #WWG1WAG ...>>
classica
07-May-20, 08:33

From the 25 rules of engagement for disinformation:
"5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left-wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviates”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues." vigilantcitizen.com

*yawn*
mikemate
07-May-20, 09:33

Classica, that is the first time you made a post describing Mr. Trump's tactics.
Or was that describing him?
classica
07-May-20, 10:12

"7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could so taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive." vigilantcitizen.com

Twist twist twist ✔

I do believe our President is using this playbook, quite effectively:

www.artofwarsuntzu.com
"18. All warfare is based on deception.
19. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem
inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.
20. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. "

Nothing can stop what is coming. 😎
urbanascott
07-May-20, 11:35

If it walks like a white nationalist domestic terrorist group,
And talks like a white nationalist domestic terrorist group,
It probably is a white nationalist terrorist group!

Classica, you have been using your QaNon slogan on this thread, and repeating QaNon talking points (such as the Seth Rich comment just last night). And, you have been posting some videos here that are QaNon based crap.

Deflect all you want. I know the truth!
mikemate
07-May-20, 11:38

We know the truth!
classica
07-May-20, 11:42

Wait and see.... enjoy the show.

Now let's get back on topic: COV-19.
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