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shirlmygirl 11-Sep-20, 19:07	I know. I remembered when lord_shiva reminded me. Donald Trump won by the Electoral College total vote.
urbanascott 12-Sep-20, 12:24	Trump WH is Rewriting CDC Research Reports on Covid!! Below is an article from Today's NY Times about a Trump official (who has no background in health or science) rewriting CDC research reports to make them consistent with what Trump is claiming and to make them more favorable towards Trump. This is consistent with the whistleblower complaint earlier in the week which showed that Trump officials were directing the intelligence agencies in DHS to rewrite their analytical reports in order to make them consistent with Trump's rhetoric, knowing that would make the intelligence reports untrue. This is the type of behavior you'd expect to find in a dictatorship or countries like Russia. Now American citizens cannot trust our critical medical research reports and intelligence reports since they are being turned into political propaganda. This is scary behavior; hard to believe this could happen in the United States. Looks like Trump had been learning a lot from his pal Putin. Trump appointees at the Health and Human Services Department have meddled in the C.D.C.’s weekly disease reports. --NY Times Political appointees at the Department of Health and Human Services have repeatedly asked the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to revise, delay and even scuttle reports on the coronavirus that they believed were unflattering to President Trump. Current and former senior health officials with direct knowledge of phone calls, emails and other communication between the agencies confirmed on Saturday a report in Politico late Friday that the C.D.C.’s public Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Reports have been targeted by senior officials in the Health and Human Services’ communications office. The reports, which one former top health official called the “holiest of the holy” in agency literature, are written largely for scientists and public health experts, to update them on trends in infectious diseases, not only the coronavirus but also other outbreaks around the country. They are guarded so closely by agency staff that political appointees only see them just before they are published. The reports became the subject of intense scrutiny this summer by Michael Caputo, a Republican political operative and former Trump campaign official the White House installed as the top spokesman at the department in April, despite his having no background in health. Mr. Caputo himself said on Saturday the Politico’s report was largely accurate, but he denied that there was any overt pressure involved. He said that the primary person involved in critiquing the reports, Paul Alexander, an assistant professor of health research at McMaster University in Canada whom he hired to advise him on the science of the pandemic, simply offered direct reactions to the drafts of the C.D.C.’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Reports. “He digs into these M.M.W.R.s and makes his position known, and his position isn’t popular with the career scientists sometimes,” Mr. Caputo said of Mr. Alexander. “That’s called science. Disagreement is science. Nobody has been ever ordered to do anything. Some changes have been accepted, most have been rejected. It’s my understanding that that’s how science is played.” In emails obtained by Politico and confirmed to The Times by a health official with direct knowledge of them, Mr. Alexander accused C.D.C. scientists of attempting to “hurt the president,” referring to the weekly reports as “hit pieces on the administration.” Mr. Alexander asked Dr. Robert R. Redfield, the C.D.C. director, to edit reports that had already been published that he believed overstated the risks of the virus for children and undermined the administration’s efforts to encourage school reopenings. The meddling from H.H.S. concerned Dr. Redfield, according to one former senior health official, who often pushed back when Mr. Caputo called to pester him about the reports. Inside the C.D.C., employees expressed outrage and demoralization on Saturday over the reports of interference.
classica 12-Sep-20, 19:37	The bigger picture: www.greenmedinfo.com A comprehensive analysis of future implications of the pandemic.
classica 15-Sep-20, 08:04	Deleted by classica on 15-Sep-20, 08:29.
lord_shiva 15-Sep-20, 11:02	Michael Caputo, DHHS Spokesman The Trump Administration's top spokesman for the Department of Health and Human Services. This is not a joke. "And when Donald Trump refuses to stand down at the inauguration, the shooting will begin," he said. "The drills that you've seen are nothing. If you carry guns, buy ammunition, ladies and gentlemen, because it's going to be hard to get." Trump Administration's top spokesman for the Department of Health and Human Services, Michael Caputo, was brought in to twist the truth to fit Donald's own preferred narrative regarding the Covid pandemic. "You understand that they're going to have to kill me, and unfortunately, I think that's where this is going," Caputo said. He said he has been continually threatened since joining the administration, and the recent reports about his pressure on the CDC put his physical health under siege and caused his mental health to fail. He complained about being alone in Washington, D.C., saying that he sees "shadows on the ceiling in my apartment, there alone, shadows are so long."
shirlmygirl 16-Sep-20, 07:34	I see from the news that Michael Caputo had to take a mental health respite from his job. I feel sorry for the poor guy. Very unwise statements to make in public, even if he believes them.
amacivn 21-Sep-20, 03:29	Deleted by amacivn on 08-Oct-20, 17:01.
shirlmygirl 02-Oct-20, 10:09	I see that President Trump has now been diagnosed with the Corona Virus. What a surprise. He seemed to want to ignore the risk.
classica 02-Oct-20, 14:00	He'll take HCQ and be fine. The worst will be the quarantine.
saguaro 02-Oct-20, 15:37	He's just been taken to Walter Reed hospital
shirlmygirl 02-Oct-20, 15:40	Classica, President Trump has been taking HCQ from the beginning of the pandemic.
classica 02-Oct-20, 17:56	No, he took it for 14 days before. Now, I hope he continues.
urbanascott 02-Oct-20, 18:14	Actually, Trump is not being given HCA after promoting that drug for 6 months. Instead, he is taking REGN-COV2, which is being evaluated in a late-stage clinical trial for both the treatment and prevention of covid-19. He is also taking zinc, vitamin D, famotidine, melatonin and a daily aspirin. Famotidine is used to reduce the production of stomach acid, and melatonin can be employed as a sleep aid. Turns out that his event on Saturday was a major spreader event and two republican senators, and many others, are now infected.
lord_shiva 02-Oct-20, 21:08	Kellyann Conway is infected. Hope Hicks should be awarded the "Noble" Peace Prize for her efforts at asymptomatic infection. I don't want Trump to die, at least not until after he suffers huge defeat and gets accustomed to his prison cell. He was air lifted to Walter Reed. I just hope he does NOT have an easy time--the more he suffers the more his dopey followers may wake up to the seriousness of this. 200,000 dead despite desperate countermeasures doesn't seem to have sunk in to many of them. Note: Not all Trump's followers are dopey or despicable. Only those who insist Covid is just the flu or who hate Muslims, immigrants, and so on are dopey or deplorable.
lord_shiva 02-Oct-20, 21:32	HCQ It doesn't help. When we do real studies tightly controlled we eliminate the post hoc ergo propter hoc effect. For example, I stuck needles into a Cheeto and then this happened. So when I need the orange menace to fall ill again I'm going to buy some more needles.
apatzer 05-Oct-20, 14:49	NO! President Trump Said he was taking it! talk talk talk talk like everything else that obsessives' compulsive lying malignant narcist spouts his BS! to drive stock prices up and down. HIS DOCTORS did not and are not giving HCQ to him! Wake up! So if he took at as a preventive measure HOW DID THAT WORK OUT FOR HIM??? Wake up
classica 05-Oct-20, 17:48	Bombshell presentation www.youtube.com
classica 05-Oct-20, 17:55	And another www.youtube.com
apatzer 05-Oct-20, 18:48	Yeah Alleged pandemic. Give me a break. youtu.be
classica 05-Oct-20, 19:17	www.youtube.com
apatzer 05-Oct-20, 19:27	youtu.be
classica 05-Oct-20, 19:39	Nice video Apatzar - it cuts both ways. www.youtube.com The previous video is from much earlier when our governor packed COV cases into nursing homes killing thousands. Good news is that most PCR covid tests are false positives and those imposing illegal lockdowns can get life in prison.
mikemate 06-Oct-20, 21:46	Deleted by mikemate on 06-Oct-20, 21:46.
mikemate 06-Oct-20, 21:47	Deleted by mikemate on 06-Oct-20, 21:48.
mikemate 06-Oct-20, 21:49	“As your leader, I had to do that. I knew there's danger to it. But I had to do it. I stood out front. I led. Nobody that's a leader would not do what I did. And I know there's a risk, there's a danger - - but that's okay,” Trump said. What is he saying here? Sorry for the deleted posts, typos.
urbanascott 06-Oct-20, 22:56	I LOVED that music video apatzer. So timely and appropriate. And Classica, I thought that video that woman made on her cell phone was absolutely hysterical. I assume it was some type of spoof. She ought to submit it to Saturday Night Live.
urbanascott 06-Oct-20, 23:16	Mike, I too was baffled by that statement. He has obviously failed miserably by being any type of role model for safe and appropriate behavior re Covid. Now he mistakenly thinks he is displaying “leadership“ by doing publicity stunts that risks the lives of those around him. Secret service agent lives were put at risk so that he could do a joy ride in front of the hospital. Videographers and photographer lives were put at risk when he created that hysterical scene returning to the WH in order to make campaign ads (as he took off his mask a few feet away from the video camera operators and photographers). This is what he thinks leadership is? He does clearly distinguish himself from Biden who is setting a positive example for all Americans by modeling appropriate behavior as determined by the WH conroavirus task force and the CDC. Clearly, Biden is the one who is displaying “leadership.” The only thing I can think of to explain his statement is that he is pumped full of powerful steroids that are impacting his mental capacity. Those steroids must have helped fuel him to make over 50 tweets this evening, many of which have been removed my the Twitter fact checkers today.
apatzer 07-Oct-20, 05:27	Mike He is saying the same thing he always says this... en.wikipedia.org
classica 15-Oct-20, 05:36	Chipping with vaccines www.lewrockwell.com
classica 18-Oct-20, 13:39	Masks www.youtube.com
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