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lord_shiva
02-Aug-20, 23:01

CoroVirus Circulation IV
Boris Johnson is not as stupid, unethical, or morally bankrupt as ImPOTUS Groper. But he is still pretty dismal when it comes to leadership qualities. On a scale of one to ten I think he generously merits about a three. That makes him a full three times better than Trump.

Following is background on the clowns holding that bogus interview making the rounds where hydroxychloroquine is erroneously described as "a cure." There is no cure. We all wish there was, but if wishes were horses then beggars could ride.

www.politifact.com
lord_shiva
02-Aug-20, 23:27

Morality
Boris fathered a child after an affair. He has four children with his estranged second wife, Marina, and a love child from an affair with property developer Helen Macintyre. But Boris has not had as many mistresses as Donald Trump, nor paid them off in campaign funds.

"Most [people] are appalled by [Boris Johnson's] apparent failure to address the pressing international issues of the day; by the gratuitous offense that he has given to so many of the UK’s partners when it desperately needs their goodwill; and by the country’s loss of stature on the global stage."

www.newstatesman.com

“If you were concerned about the principles and vision and long-term interests of Britain, you would not regard him as your pin-up,” [Chris Patten – a former EU external affairs commissioner, Hong Kong governor and Conservative cabinet minister] said. “This is an office once held by people like Carrington, Hurd, Douglas-Home, Callaghan and Bevin. What on Earth has become of us?”

We are no stranger to such circumstances here in the United States, where we elected Boris's stupider twin brother. Boris at least has a sense of humor about him, and can make convincing self deprecating jokes. Our Boris [Groper] has no such saving grace.

I find it fascinating how Classica pushes phony lung lights and lung disinfectant until Groper dismisses his fantasies as "sarcasm," and now pushes hydroxychloroquine just as hard as Groper does. Why so aligned with our idiot president?

Nigel Sheinwald, a former ambassador to the US and the European Union, [said]: “[Johnson’s] style gets in the way of handling foreign relations in a serious, responsible way at a time of real difficulty for this country… I don’t think he’s been at all helpful to the UK national interest, and I think that’s very regrettable indeed.”

Another former British ambassador... called him “the least deserving and least qualified foreign secretary of modern times, who has successfully lived down to all expectations."

"I, too, am dismayed by the harm that Johnson is doing to my country and appalled by the possibility of him becoming prime minister." [Which happened, sadly.] Martin Fletcher

"[Boris] is charismatic and funny, cultured and erudite, yet blessed with the common touch. He is a wonderful wordsmith, even if he often uses words to deceive and dissemble." So using words to deceive and dissemble is very much like our Groper, but Groper is neither charismatic, funny, cultured, OR erudite. He is ignorant, boorish, narcissistic, vile, contemptible, and... Well, you've all heard me go on about Groper before.

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Strip away the bluster and bonhomie, and you are left with a chaotic, mendacious, philandering, egotistical, disloyal and thoroughly untrustworthy charlatan driven by ambition and self-interest. Or, as the BBC broadcaster Eddie Mair once put it, “a nasty piece of work”.

Substitute Donald for Boris and this paragraph loses nothing in translation.

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Who seriously believes that Johnson gets up each morning and asks himself: “How can I improve the lot of ordinary people?” The notion of him serving the general public, rather than himself, is so manifestly absurd that no answer is required.

Ditto Donald.

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His first proper job, on the Times, was brief. Asked to write about the discovery of Edward II’s palace, he invented a titillating quotation from his godfather, Colin Lucas, a Balliol history don, suggesting that the king had cavorted there with his catamite, Piers Gaveston. Unfortunately, Gaveston was executed 13 years before the palace was built. Lucas, furious, complained to the Times. Johnson was sacked. Interviewed by the BBC’s Michael Cockerell in 2013, Johnson said: “It was awful. I remember a deep, deep sense of shame and guilt.”

And there Boris and Donald differ greatly. Donald has never suffered any consequences for his lies or criminal activity. Every lie he tells is rewarded.
petemellor
03-Aug-20, 04:17

Pretty sure that "deep, deep sense of shame and guilt" wasn't felt. It's just a different way of moving on but yes Donny wouldn't be seen to apologise however insincere.

The only consequences Johnson has suffered is a steady rise to Prime minister.

Omitted by Lord Shiva is the story of him helping a friend get a journalist beaten up.
www.theguardian.com
pawntificator
03-Aug-20, 09:20

Hello conservative minded friends. I understand that you can't post your political views for fear of being attacked both online and in real life.

But know that we are the silent majority, and these noisy squawkers on the internet do not represent reality.
lord_shiva
03-Aug-20, 11:18

Right
I've only sought Pawntificator out to beat him up. He has never exchanged gifts with me, but only fears for his mortal safety from liberal pacifists. Paci-fists-of-fury, I guess.
shirlmygirl
03-Aug-20, 14:20

I just noticed this continuation of thread #3. I think this thread has the wrong title (of course). But most of this is news to me, I must say. We should name this thread POLITICS.
pawntificator
04-Aug-20, 06:09

banned.video
pawntificator
04-Aug-20, 06:15

media.thedonald.win
petemellor
04-Aug-20, 10:17

Strange I can see your video if it's banned but I believe you. 🙄 Wow, if only some of these facts got out onto the Internet for people to read he deep state would collapse and the sun wouldn't rise i the morning and people would start liking the Orange One.

If those people choosing camp 2 and opting to believe childish conspiracies like your 'banned video' weren't going to worsen the pandemic and were the only ones going to suffer from their stupidity i would agree that's a great plan. I would even donate some of my wife's hard earned money.

Tell me honestly if you or your family are sick who do you go to? A mainstream medical professional or do you insist on finding someone who will tell you your problem is you slept with bad spirits, or a snake oil salesman, a Haitian voodoo doctor, car mechanic, a corrupt realestate salesman turned President (sorry all ready mentioned snake oil)? Who?



pawntificator
04-Aug-20, 21:33

I've got some bad news for you. If you can smell a fart when you are wearing a mask you are in big trouble.
lord_shiva
04-Aug-20, 22:31

Those Methane Rich Aromatic Molecules
are far smaller than viruses. Smells like bull feces.
pawntificator
04-Aug-20, 22:36

I can smell the virus coming from you.
shirlmygirl
09-Aug-20, 07:02

We have TWO Coronavirus FOUR threads. One entitled IV and one 4.
lord_shiva
09-Aug-20, 07:18

IV
is the legitimate one.
mikemate
09-Aug-20, 07:23

I just locked the other thread because this thread was started earlier (and has more posts).
Thought I locked it yesterday(?)
lord_shiva
09-Aug-20, 07:31

<<USA, a President reckons it's just the sniffles, switches between wanting less testing (because that would mean seeing less cases) and using high testing (in terms of numbers not per population) to mislead his country about death rates and has no interest in any kind of national strategy or even other peoples safety at his press conferences. But we do know everyone near him has to be tested for HIS safety.>>

160,000 have now perished from the sniffles. Our worst flu seasons barely top 60,000, without any protective measures at all, and we are going to break 300,000 by December. Absent containment we would grossly exceed that.

<<Regarding hydroxychloroquine: "...they employ multiple treatment disciplines - including giving plasma from recovered COVID patients...and are now using the anti-viral favoured first by China called favipiravir." So from this article the effectiveness of the hydroxychloroquin component is anecdotal and they have now stopped using it.>>

Good point, Pete. One of the guys who took HCQ to prevent Covid got sick anyway, and he continued taking it but could not say it did anything to alleviate his symptoms, though he is still alive. As noted multiple times, the drug does nothing to prevent infection, and multiple independent and carefully controlled studies reveal no benefit in the treatment.

Remdesivir appears to be beneficial for the treatment of Covid, but is also hideously expensive.

Latest news is that the vaccine in trial now could be ready by November 2021.

lord_shiva
09-Aug-20, 07:35

Remedicivir
www.nejm.org

I misspelled it in my post above.

lord_shiva
09-Aug-20, 07:41

Conservative WSJ on Masks
Really, this should be a no brainier, but here is Murdoch's conservative WSJ on the scientific evidence for masks:

www.wsj.com

No mask, over eight feet of spread. Bandana, under four feet. Other masks, including hand sewn ones, even less.

What was the number one recommendation in 1918? Masks.

How is it we learned nothing in the past 102 years?

There are four obvious simple things demonstrated again and again to work.

1. Masks
2. Social distancing
3. Contact tracing
IV. I forgot what 4 was.
lord_shiva
09-Aug-20, 07:45

IV
Stay home. Obviously one must buy food, but reducing unnecessary travel slows the spread.

Why is the Governor of Georgia suing the mayor of Atlanta over a mask mandate?
shirlmygirl
09-Aug-20, 08:20

Yesterday, according to the USA news, there was a huge accumulation of people for some event (I can't even remember what the event was). Are many people totally irresponsible? Obviously, those people don't think they are going to catch the virus.
mikemate
09-Aug-20, 09:56

Sturgis Motorcycle Rally in South Dakota?
www.washingtonpost.com
lord_shiva
09-Aug-20, 11:31

Sand Bar Bash
Lake of the Dead Hill, in Spanish, or something like that.

www.wisn.com

On social media I saw a photo of the "Sixth Sense" boy with that tormented expression on his face, and beyond Wisconsin partiers. It made me laugh, although not many of those folks would end up dead. Not like they were all going to die.
shirlmygirl
09-Aug-20, 12:36

In my local Sunday newspaper this morning it published a graph showing that the most Corona cases in my county are between the ages of 11-19, with the second highest 20-29 years old. The lowest is 80+ and next lowest 70-79. Probably, although it did not state so, the oldest groups are the ones with the most deaths and are the most vulnerable.
lord_shiva
09-Aug-20, 12:59

Yes
The oldest groups also have the fewest people in them, so the infection rate would be expected to be lower there simply on the basis of even distribution. But this age group is also the most cautious, and rightly so.
classica
13-Aug-20, 15:53

No face mask? no problem
i.iheart.com
shirlmygirl
13-Aug-20, 17:14

From the expressions in the eyes of those two young ladies, they look really concerned that the man doesn't have a mask on, and with one of them raising her hand, it looks as if she is warning him away. The photo sends a good message.
lord_shiva
13-Aug-20, 20:26

Specialty Face Masks
I'd wear this one:

d3avoj45mekucs.cloudfront.net
shirlmygirl
13-Aug-20, 20:31

The mask looks more effective, but would you wear that one with all the lace on it, lord_shiva? Somehow, I don't think so.  
classica
13-Aug-20, 20:59

As Masks are required - this may be the next fashion statement:
cy4ad5.c2.acecdn.net
lord_shiva
13-Aug-20, 21:33

Boomer Remover
One of the liver linings of Covid is how it hastens inheritance. If boomers are not squandering resources, the children stand to inherit more. From a purely financial perspective onset active opposition to face masks makes perfect sense.

Classica, how much bounty do you look forward to?

Lyle and Erik Menendez would have enjoyed greater success simply infecting their parents instead of shotgunning them to death.
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