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stalhandske
01-Feb-18, 11:18

NA moved 18. Ne5
New position



Our move!
5imon
01-Feb-18, 11:45

My vote is for 18...Rad8 as analysed previously.
ptitroque
01-Feb-18, 14:54

18. Rad8
seems Ok, for me.
cyrano
01-Feb-18, 21:43

After last two weak moves Black's position is awful
18...Rad8
19. Rf2 Bb7
20. Rc2
and Black has no active play
stalhandske
01-Feb-18, 22:17

18. ....Rad8
for me, too
tbre0022
02-Feb-18, 07:46

Rad8
also my next move
elitelixir_1st
02-Feb-18, 08:45

... Rad8
Yep   This is the one...
nambam
03-Feb-18, 17:05

WHY CAN'T WE PLAY NE4!?
stalhandske
03-Feb-18, 20:35

To me, 18. ...Ne4 is not bad either, but - for example -

18. .....Ne4
19. Bxe4 fxe4
20. Rf2 Nxe5
21. Bxe5 Qc6

results in a clear advantage for white

nambam
03-Feb-18, 20:56

my idea is that after 20. Rf2 we play Nc4!i think that poses a few problems for white
stalhandske
03-Feb-18, 21:02

You must mean 20. ...Nc5

I think that is no good, because they would reply 21. b4! and quite a significant advantage.

nambam
03-Feb-18, 21:26

Nc5 is right.b4 is only significant if they actually play Rf2, if u think that is certain then play 18 Nc5 instead of Ne4. the point is the move Rd8 leads to a lost game. either of the N moves gives them chances to go wrong and gives us a fighting chance of a draw,
stalhandske
03-Feb-18, 21:44

18. ....Nc5

was, I believe, discussed before. At least I have analysed it extensively. It most likely results in the beginning of a K-side attack by white, perhaps beginning with

19. g4

and later continuing with white advancing their g-pawn - all the way to g6

I won't go through the entire analysis, but at least acccording to that it is worse than 18. ...Rad8
nambam
03-Feb-18, 22:18

o.k. i still think Nc5 is best, but its only academic as the majority favour the rook move. so be it.we can only do our best to hold out
5imon
04-Feb-18, 04:02

Deleted by 5imon on 04-Feb-18, 04:02.
5imon
04-Feb-18, 04:03

18...Rad8 is our move
cyrano
04-Feb-18, 07:10

My comments are not so interesting, so ... I wish good luck to everybody
5imon
04-Feb-18, 09:18

Cyrano
Your comments are interesting and always appreciated.

If we're making the wrong moves then please tell us the right move before time is up. I can only make the move with the most votes.
5imon
05-Feb-18, 04:43

19.Rf2 was played


Votes please.
stalhandske
05-Feb-18, 04:56

19. ...Nc5
What about 19. ...Nc5 to establish a replacement after Nfe4 and its exchange away by the bishop?
ptitroque
05-Feb-18, 08:32

19... Nc5
Yes, indeed. We have to create some countergame
5imon
05-Feb-18, 23:34

19...Bb7
I'm in favour in adding support to d5. The bishop isn't doing much on it's current square.
nambam
06-Feb-18, 01:38

i am in favour of Nc5
tbre0022
06-Feb-18, 01:43

Nc5
I also like Nc5 best
elitelixir_1st
06-Feb-18, 03:06

19 ... Bb7
I agree with Simon
ptitroque
06-Feb-18, 04:47

19th move
the B in a6 prevents an immediate 20.b4 which could be rather anoying and which would prevent us to play a further Nc5
Bb7 can be play later. Nc5 has to be plaid now or never.
elitelixir_1st
06-Feb-18, 04:48

... can't argue with that, well said :-)
I bow down to that
tbre0022
06-Feb-18, 05:54

Bb7
After that I have analyse the game more i also move my vote to BB7
5imon
06-Feb-18, 11:34

vote count
19...Nc5 (stalhandske, ptitroque, nambam, thelitelixir)
19...Bb7 (5imon, tbre0022)
stalhandske
06-Feb-18, 20:22

After some more thinking and analysis, I change my preference to 19. ...Bb7 - it may be safer in the long run than 19. ...Nc5.
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