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After 19.Nxc6--Nxd6 according to canuktuff analysis. Thanks. White has a pair of long reaching bishops versus Black's 2 Rooks.
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Vote 12.Ba3
This will pin the knight on d6 to the rook on f8.
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easy-win. The current diagram position is based on redfoxrising's 8-jan-18. I believe you are looking and analyzing at the future position at move # 19 of my latest diagram. I am sorry that I confuse you.
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My analysis
..ne5...Bxe5......dxe5...ng4.........Nd4...Rac8..(a4).....cxd5...Bxf1......d6...Qe8 Qxf1...ngxe5...........f4...Nf7........Nxc6...Nxd6 ..ne5...Bxe5......dxe5...ng4.........Nd4...Rac8..a4..... (prevents loss of the exchange)..Ngxe5...a5...Nc5 (not pxa5 which brings our rook into the fray or b5? which loses after Bxb5 ... Nxb5 and after Ba3 black loses the exchange and has a lost position!)... axb6 and white has a nice advantage. Note my a4 move which prevents a loss of the exchange. Martin
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canuktuff 13-Jan-18, 00:22
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ipsissimus
the beauty of chess ! i must say i like your analysis better then mine lol..and i find a4 is a course of action better then cxd5.....but never the less there are 6 moves to be done prior to arriving to this position .i guess we will have to wait and see if we all agree on ne5 next move .
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Votes so far
Ba3 (mistake?) Easy Ne5 Elyhim Ipsi Canuktuff Please correct my mistakes. Martin
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clashofpawns 13-Jan-18, 00:46
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K sign me up for Ne5. I think ace is down for Ne5 as well. Probably safe to submit Ne5 at this point!
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Votes so far
Ba3 (mistake?) Easy Ne5 Elyhim Ipsi Canuktuff Clash Ace We will play Ne5! Martin
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canuktuff 15-Jan-18, 10:52
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ROW VS NAT
I see that Row team did play Bxe5 and since we all did our home work for the next few moves i suggest to carry on . dxe5
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I vote 13.dxe5
12.Ne5---Bxe5 13.dxe5--Ng4 and then how will White defend e5 pawn ? If White defends e5 by f4, Black's .....Ng4 will capture d3, My speculation or prediction comes true, although you don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure that out. We don't have any other good alternative moves in my opinion. So, let's vote for this move quickly.
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canuktuff 15-Jan-18, 11:17
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ace-of-aces
ace my friend ...we worked very hard in the last two pages talking about the next 6 moves !!! after move 13 ng4 for black ..we are playing Nd4 and then we wait and see black response ! we dont want the pawn on e5 .we will give it to them plus french fries and a drink too ! lolol
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canuktuff
I agree. That is the beauty of chess which we cannot predict the outcome with certainty. Sometimes, we have to gamble. Sometimes we have to sacrifice in order to game something. In Sicilian, Najdorf, there is so called poisoned pawn variation that we cannot say who has better advantage. Let's hope for the best.
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Row has played 12...Bxe5
As of 11 hours ago. The current position is: NA to move.
game Martin
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elyhim 15-Jan-18, 19:18
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My vote is of course 13. dxe5
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Unless I see objections
I will play the next move in our plan which is13.dxe5. Martin
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clashofpawns 15-Jan-18, 19:20
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No need for votes here let's submit quickly
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We have played 13.dxe5
The current position is: Row to move To flip the board click on it then click on flip.
game Martin
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elyhim 15-Jan-18, 19:36
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13...Ng4 14. Nd4 they are going to have a hard time finding the right path.
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canuktuff 15-Jan-18, 19:46
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right path
well...they are good !! but i believe in more then one brain working which is in our favor ! we are putting more efforts in finding the best possible move !
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clashofpawns 16-Jan-18, 16:43
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Ng4 is coming for sure And my vote will be 14. Nd4 for sure.
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canuktuff 16-Jan-18, 19:43
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Nd4
yes ..soon they play Ng4 i vote for Nd4
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My vote is 14.Nd4
The only move! Martin
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Vote count is
14.Nd4 elyhim clash canuktuff ipsi We need 1 more vote so that I can make this move as soon as they move. Let's not give them extra time to think. Martin
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I vote 12.Nd4
I agree with the majority.
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dmaestro 16-Jan-18, 23:08
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I support that move.
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The current vote count is
14.Nd4 elyhim clash canuktuff ipsi ace dmaestro This is the majority and I will make this move as soon as I see the expected 13...Ng4. Martin
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clashofpawns 17-Jan-18, 01:57
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The real question is if they respond 14..Rac8 what's our continuation. I see a bunch of good lines. But I suspect 15. a4 will be strong. Strong enough actually that they might prefer 14..Ndxe5 and then we kick the knight back to f6
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Admin post
Please continue your discussion here as this thread is about to hit the maximum number of posts. gameknot.com
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If 14.Nd4 ----Nxe5 or Black can respond first with ----Rac8 before capturing e5
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