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 The Last DaysI then opened Facebook and penned the revelation concerning the immenant return of Jesus. Also, while on Facebook, I read of a former Parkway Baptist Church secretary to just discovered that she was now suffering from cancer. At the Holy Spirit's bidding, I stretched out my hands and declared her to receive a complete healing. I felt the surge of power go from my hands as it went to her. Then I wrote a message to her telling her that she was now completely healed of the cancer. God later told me about an hour ago that I would serve as a modern-day prophet for Him. He further told me that I would preach in His name, a desire I've had since a young child. He also told me that people would be broght to me, young and old, for a healing in Jesus' name. |
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crushingpower 06-Nov-17, 00:10 |
The Last Days If you are talking about yourself then I have to say that having come from the Charismatic movement myself some years ago, I remember a number of men that were teaching this doctrine that all Christians have the ability to do the things Jesus did and I went along with it for awhile until the Lord showed me one day that this is not the case at all. I and some other Christians once held a healing meeting for a visiting evangelist who had a healing ministry. Or at least we thought that. Three of us delivered many thousands of leaflets to peoples homes inviting them to come along and get healed. We meant well, but we were wrong. Why? well the man did pray over everyone and told them to receive their healing by faith and not one of these poor souls were healed. I learned a very important lesson that day. That it's not about getting our will done in heaven but God's will done here on earth. 1. Never promise anyone they are healed and leave them in a state where they are believing themselves to be healed because they were told they were and then they find they are not. You may well have left them with a guilt conscience believing they lack faith.. 2. Never believe because we are saved that we can all bring healing to those that are ill or in firmed on the assumption that the apostles did it so can we. I say this because miracles and healing were wrought to accompany the preaching of the gospel by the Apostles and Evangelists to prove what the hearer had heard of the risen Christ was true. There is no account in the New Testament that any of the early believers ever went on an urge or by feeling of compassion to go to anyone or send a message to them that required a healing by God unless expressly sent by the direct command of the Holy Spirit. My friend I understand you did this out of love and were sincere, but I think you were sincerely wrong. The money preachers and word of faith crooks do such things but we should stay in the scriptures at all times. If you believe you have a healing gift then consult your Pastor and share this with him and listen to him on this. I am sorry if what I say is perhaps not pleasing to you but I say this in love. Robert |
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re: ichthus In Christ's perfect, matchless, incomprehensible love, Jim tennesseehiker |
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crushingpower 06-Nov-17, 02:17 |
re:tennessehiker Forgive me if I have offended you in anyway that was not my intention, however if someone makes a statement like yours I will challenge it as not scriptural and not of the Holy Spirit's leading. I know you did not ever mention payments and I never accused you of such. I wrote that this type of word of faith stuff is the handy work of the money preachers. They offer healing through the tv screens but say "By the way send us some money and plant that old seed" That is rubbish! Who am I to question Him? Actually, I am not questioning Him, I am questioning you Jim. I always test the spirits, and if it foes not add up with the scriptures, I will not go with it. You say this healing came from the Holy Spirit, and that you claim to be a modern- day Prophet well ok then, Good for you, However do not expect me to believe it on your say so. I do not need to pray for God to confirm your newly found status, Discernment by the Spirit has never let me down yet. I do not believe that God by way of His Holy Spirit would direct you to tell that lady she is healed. I do not believe He operates in this way. If I were wrong and I do not believe I am, I will be convicted by the Holy Spirit as such but it's the opposite I am assured I am not wrong my friend. Have you heard the saying: Luke 4:23 Physician heal thyself, Lord bless you and may he always guard over you and your family. |
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solascriptura 06-Nov-17, 05:10 |
To my brothers Robert and Jim, with much interest I noticed your post. The issue revolves around the question " Are the gifts of the Spirit still being given to believers? If so, are all the gifts manifested, part of them or none of them? I walk in Reformed theology, but as a general rule, those from that camp do not believe the gifts are for today. If it is possible, I am a Charismatic Calvinist!! On this server I use the pen name solascriptura, over on Chess.com you find me playing under the handle Sola_Deo_Gloria. Of all things, I treasure scripture more than all. I find faith, love, discipline (meaning discipleship not punishment, that is what the word actually means) and a constant source of encouragement from God's word. The Holy Spirit is the author of all the gifts and the Holy Spirit is still in those who believe the gospel, otherwise, we could not have a Spiritual birth. We should make a distinction of the gifts and the fruit of the Spirit though both have their source from the Holy Spirit’s indwelling. The word for gifts is charisma. There were gifts were in operation in the Old Testament to only some people of faith for ministering before the outpouring of the Spirit at Pentecost. So the spiritual gifts did not begin in Acts 2 but they became available to be distributed to every believer by the new covenant and the coming of the Holy Spirit. So whoever has the Holy Spirit dwelling in them has one or more of the gifts that the Holy Spirit sovereignly gives to them. Since they did not begin in Acts 2 there is no biblical reason for them to end because one assumes the Bible was completed, as the same Holy Spirit is still saving people and indwelling them today. We must always be careful to be in Exegesis of scripture and not be caught in Eisegesis. Rom 8:9: “Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.” He (the Holy Spirit) distributes gifts to each individual as he resides in them, but one needs faith to operate in them. If one does not even believe they exist they will not be open to seeing them at work in others or through them. 1 Cor. 12:4: “Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.” V:5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. V:6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which works all in all.” V:7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.” V:8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit” V:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit” V:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues.” Many years ago, I was teaching and administering the Children's Church in Laramie Wyoming. It was a 4 Square Gospel church so the gifts of the Spirit were taught and held in high esteem. Laramie is also a College town, so we had many Students who attended our church. I will never forget I had one of the Students start talking to me about the necessity of speaking in tongues to have the Holy Spirit present in you. If not, you were basically unsaved. I told her that I had never spoken in Tongues nor was the gift one in which I particularly wished to walk in. I reminded her that if she felt I was unsaved or devoid of the Spirit, she was most welcome to come down to the Sunday School Class and teach young minds about Jesus. I told her that I promised she would find out immediately if the Spirit was present, you cannot teach and be successful in a children's ministry without the Spirit. As usual, she did not take me up in the challenge. Most were too busy flipping and flopping around in worship to be used by the Spirit in ministry, sorry if I seem bombastic here. Healing, Prophecy, Tongues, Administration or any gift which is given to the believer is given for the edification of the Church. It is of my most humble opinion they are still relevant and active in this age as in ages past. The gift of Tongues is a different issue and must be handled in context. Romans 12:6 We have different gifts according to the grace given us. If someone's gift is prophecy, let him use it in proportion to his faith; We must use our gift no matter what it is in proportion of our faith. Going back to Rom 8:9 If one does not even believe the gifts exist they will not be open to seeing them at work in others or through them. I have found over the years to never put God in a box. He will most assuredly surprise you. Blessings to all for reading my ramblings. solascriptura |
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crushingpower 06-Nov-17, 06:43 |
re:solascriptura So it does not revolve around any question of whether the gifts operate to day or ceased after the apostles at all. No, This is more a case of the gifts and how God uses them through us. Either we receive them and use them in obedience to His leading or we claim to have been given them and act independently of His leading. I am deeply disturbed to hear a brother write I felt the surge of power go from my hands as it went to her. That is not the Holy Spirit at all. We are not a conduit that the Holy Spirit passes from into someone else. This is new age nonsense that has nothing to do with God the Father, Jesus the Son, or the Holy Spirit. When we Christians are led to lay hands on someone in prayer it is an act of obedience not a passing of power that is a wrong understanding of God's Word. In the Old Testament the Holy Spirit came upon men in an anointing. but not into them as is now in the New Testament. Today we have the Baptism in the Holy Spirit, as Paul tells us the mystery of Christ in you. Healings and miracles support evangelism as proof of the risen Jesus proving He is alive today. He worked with the Apostles performing wonders and miracles. I have no problem with any man praying for who ever he wishes or even calling himself whatever he wants but I do have a problem when they tell others they are healed. It is for that person to know this not told they are when they might not be. That is how I discern this not to be an act of the Holy Spirit. I am sorry folks the last thing I want is to hurt anyones feelings but I cannot compromise what I know is not of God when told it is. |
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dmaestro 06-Nov-17, 07:29 |
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solascriptura 06-Nov-17, 13:22 |
Excellent, I was not sure if you are a Cessationist. My post was directed at those who are Cessationist. One of my modern day heroes is James White. He is a Reformed Baptist and as far as I am concerned the best debater when it comes to representing Christian Doctrines of Grace. Yet, he is a Cessationist and absolutely stands ready and successfully defend his position. Here is a debate he had with Michael Brown, both individuals I highly respect and listen to as teachers. This one concerns healing: www.youtube.com The other is between Michael Brown and Sam Waldron www.youtube.com Here is another by Michael Brown concerning Cessationist. www.youtube.com I have to admit, I was neglectful and did not back track and read the statement "I felt the surge of power go from my hands as it went to her." Very much a true statement "We are not a conduit that the Holy Spirit passes from into someone else" Scripture does say in John 7:38 New American Standard Bible "He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, 'From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.'" The rivers of living water This scripture as been used as evidence of power flowing from a believer to the individual receiving the healing. I don't agree with the interpretation, but it is one of the scriptures. I don't believe that that one is "slain in the spirit", nor power emanates out of the believer into another believer as some do. Terms such as “slain in the Spirit” and “falling under the power” are not found in the Bible. We are not aware of any Scriptures that specifically describe this experience which occurs in some church services, where believers are prayed for and in the process fall to the floor and remain unconscious for a time. Some call attention to Revelation 1:10-17 which tells how the apostle John fell at the feet of Jesus when he was “in the spirit on the Lord’s Day,” and saw the glorious revelation of Christ. There was also the transfiguration of Christ, when Peter, James, and John “fell on their face” at the revelation of Christ’s glory (Matthew 17:1-8). Some who have experienced being “slain in the Spirit” say that God used it to minister to them by His Spirit in personal ways. In other instances it has been associated with the new birth, the fullness of the Holy Spirit, spiritual, emotional, or physical healing, or deliverance. However, whatever one may think about the experience of being “slain in the Spirit,” it should not be made an expectation for all believers or be considered a sign of spiritual maturity. In addition, discernment needs to be exercised by mature church leadership since the power of suggestion and mere emotionalism can so easily mimic legitimate spiritual experience. I will say this though. There have been many instances of people being prayed over and being healed and that, only a miraculous way. I absolutely do not believe any of the false teachings we see on TV of where a preacher taps one on the head, they fall over and are then healed when they get up. It is as you suggest, there is always a please donate, we will send yo a gizmo of some type which will assure your healing or prosperity. BOGUS! Very much a true statement "We are not a conduit that the Holy Spirit passes from into someone else" Scripture does say in John 7:38 New American Standard Bible "He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, 'From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.'" One must remember where the statement "rivers of living water" comes from. Living Water (Berean Study Bible ) 37 On the last and greatest day of the feast, Jesus stood up and called out in a loud voice, “If anyone is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink. 38 To the one who believes in Me, it is just as the Scripture has said: ‘Streams of living water’” will flow from within him. 39 He was speaking about the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were later to receive. For the Spirit had not yet been given, because Jesus had not yet been glorified.… Isaiah 55:1 "Ho! Every one who thirsts, come to the waters; And you who have no money come, buy and eat. Come, buy wine and milk Without money and without cost. The gifts are shared without revenue, without money and without cost. The flowing of the Spirit is for the calling of the elect. The Spirit as you suggest distributes the gifts as He sees necessary. Not all are healers, not all are prophets, not all are preachers, nor teachers, each gift is given for the edification of the Body. Before one walks in the gift they must be assured it has been given or disasters results the dishonoring of the Spirit can happen. Blessings, always a delight to discuss God's word. solascriptura |
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As I have already identified myself as one who does not speak in tongues, this verse has proven a “life saver”! The churches I have grown up in, beginning with the Assemblies of God church, have all emphasized this gift. In my opinion, to a fault! Sorry, but this has been a torn in my flesh. Anyway, this verse says Paul would rather that we prophesied. This means to give encouragement. Strongs 4395:PROPHETEUO. Particularly to foretell future events, to predict, often representing the idea from the OT of exhorting, reproving, threatening, spoken by the prophets while they were acting under the divine influence as ambassadors of God and as interpreters of His mind and will. Also: Specifically of the prophetic gift imparted by the Holy Spirit to the early Christians. ((Acts 19:6; 21:9; 1 Cor 11:4, 5; 13:9; 14:1, 3-5, 24, 31, 39) I know he Holy Spirit has imparted this gift to me. In some measure. Back to 1 Corinthians 14. Further, we have verse 6-16. 6) But now, brethren, if I come to you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you unless I speak to you either by revelation, by knowledge, by prophesying, or by teaching? 7) Even things without life, whether flute or harp, when they make a sound, unless they make a distinction in the sounds, how will it be known what is piped or played? 8)) For if the trumpet makes an uncertain sound, who will prepare for battle? 9) So likewise you, unless you utter by the tongue words easy to understand, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air. 10) There are, it may be, so many kinds of languages in the world, and none of them is without significance. 11) Therefore, if I do not know the meaning of the language, I shall be a foreigner to him who speaks, and he who speaks will be a foreigner to me. 12) Even so you, since you are zealous for spiritual gifts, let it be for the edification of the church that you seek to excel. 13)Therefore let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret. 14) For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. 15) What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding. 16) Otherwise, if you bless with the spirit, how will he who occupies the place of the uninformed say “Amen” at your giving of thanks, since he does not understand what you say? Right there is the red flag about tongues which is not taught in these churches! Vs 16 Otherwise, if you bless with the spirit, how will he who occupies the place of the uninformed say “Amen” at your giving of thanks, since he does not understand what you say? Let all things be done decently and in order. 1 Corinthians 14:40 |
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Furthermore all have sinned and fallen short. I most certainly have. The presence of unresolved sin prevents us from having any power at all. The presence of doubt does the same. If one had no doubt and complete faith and asked God believing that it has already been done. And that person was without sin. We would move mountains. This does not mean we should stop trying or feel dejected. We need to push in and correct anything that is a block in our own life. Most of us spend 90% of our energy trying to help others be free of sin that we see. Also Jesus spent enormous amount of time alone with the father in fellowship. How much alone time do we seek with our father. I certainly feel powerless but I am do not want power. And I definitely need to chip away at the log in my eye untill it is gone. Then and only then may I heal my brothers speck |
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solascriptura 08-Nov-17, 15:27 |
There are indeed many reasons why many of can not do the things Jesus did. One thing for sure is we are not limited by sin, as you suggest all have fallen short. All of the Apostles, even after Pentecost had the Holy Spirit still failed and were not able to accomplish all that Jesus had done, again not because they were limited by sin but rather faith. Paul stated he was the greatest sinner of all. It is interesting because Jesus tells us in John 14:12 Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father. I can't remember in the scripture anyone doing some greater work than Jesus. I have often wondered about this statement and pondered it many times. --Quote-- If one had no doubt and complete faith and asked God believing that it has already been done. And that person was without sin. We would move mountains. --End of Quote-- Sin is not part of the equation, I agree though doubt, fear and unbelief all play a part in seeing the fruition of accomplishing what we are lead to do by the Lord. For example, We see there was a man in chapter 17 of Matthew that brought his son who was a lunatic to his disciples and they were unable to cure him. Jesus tells them why in verse 20 MAT 17:20 New American Standard Bible And He said to them, "Because of the littleness of your faith; for truly I say to you, if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you. I believe what the bible tells me I can do, in this case the non movement of the mountains in my life are directly related to my unbelief. Alas, I pray "help my unbelief." I totally agree with you, I many times feel powerless, however, I do want the power which is promised me by scripture. Blessings my brother. solascriptura Here is a good link, I have provided the text as well. www.believers.org According To Your Faith You will receive from God according to your faith. EPHESIANS 3:20 NKJ 20 Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, This verse says two things. God can do more than it is possible for us to even imagine. Second, what He will do in our lives, is dependent on the power at work within us. What is that power? It is the power of His Word, activated by the Holy Spirit. ROMANS 1:16-17 NKJ 16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, "The just shall live by faith." The Gospel is the power of God. It will bring faith. It will bring freedom. MARK 9:23 NKJ 23 Jesus said to him, "If you can believe, all things are possible to him who believes." Anything is possible -- if you have faith. Faith comes from receiving the Word of God. God's Word is faith food; if you eat it, it will produce faith in your life. ROMANS 10:17 NKJ 17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. In English New Testaments, the words translated faith and believe are the same word in the Greek. Faith is the noun form and believe is the verb form of the same Greek word. If You Have Faith MATTHEW 17:20 NKJ 20 So Jesus said to them, "Because of your unbelief; for assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith as a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, `Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you. Nothing is impossible -- if you have faith. MARK 11:22-25 NKJ 22 So Jesus answered and said to them, "Have faith in God. 23 "For assuredly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, `Be removed and be cast into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that those things he says will come to pass, he will have whatever he says. 24 "Therefore I say to you, whatever things you ask when you pray, believe that you receive them, and you will have them. 25 "And whenever you stand praying, if you have anything against anyone, forgive him, that your Father in heaven may also forgive you your trespasses. MATTHEW 21:21 NKJ 21 So Jesus answered and said to them, "Assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but also if you say to this mountain, `Be removed and be cast into the sea,' it will be done. LUKE 17:6 NKJ 6 So the Lord said, "If you have faith as a mustard seed, you can say to this mulberry tree, `Be pulled up by the roots and be planted in the sea,' and it would obey you. According To Your Faith MATTHEW 9:29 NKJ 29 Then He touched their eyes, saying, "According to your faith let it be to you." Jesus is no respecter of persons. He would not tell these people they would receive according to their faith -- then let you receive according to something else. MATTHEW 8:13 NKJ 13 Then Jesus said to the centurion, "Go your way; and as you have believed, so let it be done for you." And his servant was healed that same hour. What the centurion believed determined what he received from God. It is still the same today -- for God never changes. GALATIANS 3:9 NKJ 9 So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham. Only those who are of faith are blessed. God can do a lot -- but only does what we believe. GALATIANS 6:9 NKJ 9 And let us not grow weary while doing good, for in due season we shall reap if we do not lose heart. We reap only if we do not give up and quit. ROMANS 5:2 NKJ 2 through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. All that we receive from God is by His grace. We do not deserve God's blessing. However, we receive it by faith. We have access to God's grace only by faith. Without faith we will not receive any blessing from God. (You may say that some people receive who seemingly have no faith. They are receiving based on someone else's faith.) EPHESIANS 2:8 NKJ 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, We are saved, or delivered, only through faith. Everything we receive is a gift from God -- we do not earn it, or deserve it. Without faith we will not receive it. ROMANS 4:16 NKJ 16 Therefore it is of faith that it might be according to grace, so that the promise might be sure to all the seed, not only to those who are of the law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all By blessing people on the basis of faith, God can freely give to all people, by His grace. No matter what anyone has done, God can bless them if they will believe Him. ROMANS 10:11 NKJ 11 For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame." If we do not believe -- we will be put to shame. These scriptures should make the importance of faith in receiving from God clear to you. Because faith comes from the Word of God, you should realize the great importance of feeding on God's Word, the Bible. If your faith is weak -- feed it God's Word. You do that by reading, by hearing, and especially by speaking the Word. |
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His Second Coming . . . Now the prospect of having to “experience” of “endure” the trials described in Revelation can be daunting, to say the least. There are two reasons which presently come to mind which give me strength to believe God has something better in mind for faithful servants than any anguish most of the earth is going to be tested / judged by in the Revelation trials. The first is God's record of keeping His own safe/ separate from judgments which He has given in the past. The second is two-fold, in a sense. In Revelation 6:9 are evidently souls who have died during the Revelation judgments. Then there is the fact that I have heard teaching that God intends to use His church as a vehicle as it were, to render His judgments. His judgments and His mercy. Psalm 149:6 – 7 would seem to indicate that this is the case. A minister, who I highly regard, is in fact teaching exactly this! Anyway, if anyone has Scripture which addresses these concerns I have, please, share them. Thank you, yours, in Him, Frank |
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solascriptura 09-Nov-17, 15:53 |
I am by no means an expert on eschatology. However, I do believe that Christ will gather His elect prior to the Tribulation. LOL, after all I did read the Left Behind series! Even a cursory reading of Scripture will show that at the Second Coming of Christ He comes WITH His saints and angels. Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, ...and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee. (Zech 14:3-5). And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. (Jude 14,15) Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and theyalso which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. (Rev 1:7) And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. (Rev 19:14). That begs the question: "How can Christ come WITH His saints if they are on the earth at His Second coming, and when the Bible calls them the armies which were in Heaven?" And the Pre-Tribulation Rapture is the answer. I am of course open to being persuaded by scripture. solascriptura |
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solascriptura 09-Nov-17, 18:05 |
Blessings my friend, no offense taken. These scriptures all indicate that the Lord is returning with His saints, again it begs the question: "How can Christ come WITH His saints if they are on the earth at His Second coming? Zech 14:3-5 Jude 14,15 Rev 1:7 Rev 19:14 I most certainly will entertain sound argumentation rebuffing the understanding of the scriptures. One thing we do know for sure is an itinerary with His returning will not be found for Jesus tells us in Mat 24:36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone." Always a pleasure to discuss His word with you, you have great insight which I do respect very much. solasciptura |
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winslowhightower 09-Nov-17, 19:27 |
I don't take quite so literal an interpretation of every verse, but I love the Bible. |
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crushingpower 20-Nov-17, 05:17 |
Pre Trib Rapture www.youtube.com www.youtube.com Enjoy |
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End- times Biblical Eschatology youtu.be |
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Correct End-times Biblical Eschatology |
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End- times Biblical Eschatology The Bible refers to giants in many places. These issues are related to the End-times. youtu.be |
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ichthus I strongly agree with most of your post, and especially this sentance. No man heals by miracle--- Only God performs miracles. This also a stance of Islam. |
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janheckman. . . No man heals by miracle--- Only God performs miracles. This also a stance of Islam.>> Firstly, ichtus, who has left the club, posted last year in November. Did he post that comment here on the Last Days thread? Miracle healing probably shouldn't be here as the subject is about the End-times. But because you have just indicated by -<< This is also a stance of Islam >>, I have to ask you for some documentation, please. I have never heard of Islam believing that healings. And while you are at it maybe a comment on my post, before you posted, would be refreshing. |
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service Muslims believe that all Miracles are performed by God alone and that Profits, etc who are said to have performed miracles --- such as Christ, Moses, etc --- were sort of like conduits for God's Miracles --- not the Miracle maker. Per your comment: I have seen those who claim/believe they are "speaking in tongues". I consider it gibberish nonsense; and definitely NOT from God. |
