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charleshiggie
12-Oct-20, 21:55

How good is your chess
Would anyone like to do How Good is your chess with me? I will use Danny King's columns in the magazine Chess. Basically we start with an early midgame position and then play through the game. You, the readers, have to guess the moves of the winning side. Moves earn marks according to how good they are. I post a new move every couple of days or so.....
penelope80
13-Oct-20, 03:48

That's something interesting!I'd like to play
5imon
13-Oct-20, 03:58

Sure. Sounds good.
charleshiggie
14-Oct-20, 12:55

The test starts now!
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bc4 Nf6
4. d3 Bc5
5. O-O d6
6. c3 h6
7. Re1 O-O
8. Nbd2 a5
9. Nf1 Be6

What would you play as white in this position?
penelope80
15-Oct-20, 05:13

I think I would move Bxe6
charleshiggie
15-Oct-20, 05:27

Danny King says
Danny King prefers another move with he scores 3 points. He gives one point to 10. Bxe6 and says 10. Bxe6 fxe6 11. d4 is an obvious way to play and looks good but there are hidden dangers for white: 11.....exd4 12. cxd4 Bb6 13. Ng3 Ng4 - incredibly direct - 14. h3 Nxf2 15. Kxf2 Qh4 16 Be3 d5 and it is hard to break free from the pins successfully. Not a forced line but plausible.
10.Bxe6 fxe6 11.Be3 Bxe3 12.Nxe3 d5 13.h3 a4 14.Qe2 a3 15.b4 d4 (Yifan Hou vs Arkadij Naiditsch, 2018) is more prudent but hard for white to prove any advantage.
If is any consolation, the move I chose at this point scored nothing.
penelope80
15-Oct-20, 06:56

Thanks for the analysis.So,I throw in the towel and I'm happy with a point...Waiting to see if Simon or someone else will find the right move
ace-of-aces
15-Oct-20, 06:57

I suggest Qb3 threatening to capture black's b7 pawn.
charleshiggie
15-Oct-20, 10:17

Qb3
Qb3 looks a reasonable move to me - but no, it doesn't score anything, not mentioned by Dany King - I guess black just exchanges bishops. However exchanging bishops and then playing Qb3 seems good to me, forking pawns on e6 and b7 - but Danny King doesn't mention that either
penguin_
15-Oct-20, 15:05

h3
Ok I will try h3
charleshiggie
15-Oct-20, 22:41

Not h3 either
No, that is just a waste of time, why bother stopping the Bc8 going to g4 when it has already committed itself to e6? (my view, not Danny King's)
charleshiggie
15-Oct-20, 22:44

Qb3
exchanging bishops and then playing Qb3, forking pawns on e6 and b7 can be met by Qd7! and if white takes on b7 Rf-b8 traps the queen.
archduke_piccolo
16-Oct-20, 03:17

I thought...
... I had butchered my message of about 12 hours ago. Damn.

I offered 4 candidate moves:

10.Ne3
10.Ng3
10.Be3
10.a4

The last of these is out of left field a bit, but its purpose is to constrain Black's Q-side, after 10...Bxc4 11.dxc4. I'm not sure I'd really play it though.

10.Be3 looks promising at first sight, but seems to lose a pawn.

On the whole I'd be inclined towards 10.Ne3, with the idea of recapturing (if called for) with the knight. Further, the knight seems to have more of a future on e3 than on g3. Finally, as there is no useful square for the bishop past d2, it doesn't matter so much that it's blocked in.
5imon
16-Oct-20, 03:24

I was also leaning to moving the knight on f1. It doesn't feel as though it's completed it's journey yet.

But I don't see that either 10. Ne3 or 10. Ng3 are likely to so great as to get praise from Daniel King, so I'm thinking there must be something else!
charleshiggie
16-Oct-20, 05:55

Still the move played has not been mentioned
Still the move played - which Danny King agrees is the best move - has not been mentioned.
10. Ne3, 10. Be3 and 10. a4 are not mentioned by Danny
Danny awards one point to 10. Ng3, commenting "10. Ng3 continues the normal knight's journey, but after 10.....Bxc4, 11. dxc4 Qd7 Black is ultra-solid"
Apart from 10. Be6 ad 10. Ng3, no other moves score, apart from the move played, which Danny gives 3 points to.
5imon is right, there is something else.... would everyone like a 2nd guess?
penelope80
16-Oct-20, 05:56

Yes, please,I'd like to think more
5imon
16-Oct-20, 06:28

It feels as though white wants to play d4. Perhaps this could be achieved by playing 10.Bb5 in order to remove the knight on c6 and get a good grip on the centre.
penelope80
16-Oct-20, 09:26

camelcluch
camelcluch suggests:
I think Bb5 is a good choice
Bb5 Ne7
d3-d4 Bb6
charleshiggie
16-Oct-20, 09:55

Yes indeed
Yes indeed! 10. Bb5 was played, (3 points) and black DID reply Ne7. What did white play next?
penelope80
16-Oct-20, 11:04

Isn't d4 as camelcluch suggested?
charleshiggie
16-Oct-20, 11:21

11. d4 was played
Yes 11. d4 was played (two points) I managed to correctly guess this move too, although the previous move I guess 10. Bb3 (0 points). Black replied exd4, now what?
5imon
16-Oct-20, 11:49

12. cxd4 looks better to me than 12. Nxd4.
charleshiggie
16-Oct-20, 12:23

Yes
Yes, I think it is pretty obvious, I chose that too, 1 point.
Black retreated the bishop to b6

WHAT DID WHITE PLAY NOW?
archduke_piccolo
16-Oct-20, 17:27

My guess...
13.Ng3.

Maybe 13.h3 is worth a look.
elenapetrova
16-Oct-20, 21:10

I agree with Ion.
13.Ng3. The logical development for this knight.
5imon
18-Oct-20, 02:25

13. Ng3
for me too.
charleshiggie
18-Oct-20, 04:33

You all score 3 points!
I scored 3 points with the same move too!
Black replied 13....d5

What did white play now?
elenapetrova
18-Oct-20, 13:54

After a central exchange white's pawn on d4 would be isolated and weak, so e5 looks the best choice
archduke_piccolo
18-Oct-20, 14:25

I agree:
... with 14.e5.
Admittedly, ...c5 might be a concern, but Be3 might be a sufficient reply yo 14...Ne7. I don't think there is anything for Black after 14.e5 Ne4.

I did consider allowing an exchange of pawns on e4. True, that leaves us with the 'isolani' on d4. But what do White's K-side attacking prospects look like? So I offer -

14.Be3 or Bf4
as possible alternatives.
5imon
19-Oct-20, 14:17

I would play 14. e5 too.
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