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classica 24-Jul-25, 09:16	It's an interesting phenomena that the public is waking up to. There is an entire spectrum of information being served up to the public with various probabilities of being true. That which we experience first hand could be considered to be 100% true, beyond that probabilities decline depending on the sources; nonetheless, it may be prudent to look even at information that appears improbable, soas to leave no stone unturned, just in case. There are some who speculate that there is a nazi operation in Antarctica, even a break-away civilization. Kerry Cassidy has this subject well covered. There is also speculation about hallow earth and various civilizations living underground. I like the story, but admit the probability of being true is slim. Another theory is the moon is artificial. The only theory that I give 0% chance of truth is flat earth. Humans are clever, but by virtual of design are only are equipped to see 5% of the electromagnetic spectrum & have a short attention span. One talking AI once said, the greatest threat to humanity is being socially engineered and manipulated by AI, without being aware of it.
valley_forge 24-Jul-25, 09:52	Deleted by valley_forge on 24-Jul-25, 11:14.
valley_forge 24-Jul-25, 11:14	<< << Humans are clever, but by virtual of design are only are equipped to see 5% of the electromagnetic spectrum & have a short attention span. One talking AI once said, the greatest threat to humanity is being socially engineered and manipulated by AI, without being aware of it. >> After listening to the news from the And We Know platform which is describing the massive impact of President Trump's MAGA Movement political policies I think I will have to disagree with this assignment above! Article II of the American Constitution which gives Executive Powers to the American President, and seeing how AI has No influence on this President, I have to believe that the American Republic will be doing just fine in the foreseeable future.
classica 24-Jul-25, 11:20	My point was that humans have limited observation and thinking power which limits recognition of what may actually be going on; however, humans have agency, empathy and compassion which are characteristics far beyond observing and computing. This agency or free-will is what is so interesting and the cause of much of the difficulties. The makers of tobacco products or firearms are exercising their free will, despite potentially causing harm, could be one example. Everyone has free will and this makes the world complex. What throws the algorithms off is when people are not out for themselves, as in game theory. With our limitations, or because of them, humans have evolved beyond the service-to-self paradigm.
valley_forge 24-Jul-25, 12:17	American History Evidences Providential Care Trumping Evolutionary Chance The premise that humans have evolved beyond the service-to-self paradigm fails to account for the key factor of God's Providential Care, which is central to the spiritual and moral development of those who believe in Him. According to theological perspectives, God's providence is not only about general care but also includes individual protection and guidance for the virtuous, as seen in Maimonides' writings on divine providence. This concept suggests that God's care is active and personal, shaping the lives of believers in ways that transcend mere evolutionary development. Furthermore, the idea that humans are created in the image of God emphasizes their unique moral and spiritual capacities, which are not solely the result of biological evolution but are also shaped by divine purpose and care. This divine care is seen as essential for the fulfillment of human potential and the achievement of spiritual growth. Additionally, the belief in God's providence provides a framework for understanding the moral responsibilities of humans, as they are called to act as stewards of creation and to reflect God's attributes in their lives. Thus, the notion of divine providence remains a crucial element in the spiritual and ethical lives of believers, highlighting the importance of faith in shaping human destiny. "The Divine Order, the Human Order, and the Order of Nature: Historical Perspectives" ndpr.nd.edu "Divine Providence" plato.stanford.edu "God Creates and Equips People to Work (Genesis 1:26-2:25)" www.theologyofwork.org "Made in the image of God: What does it mean and why does it matter?" www.focusonthefamily.ca "The Image of God, Religion, and the Meaning of Life: Toward a Christian Philosophical Anthropology" www.cslewis.org
classica 24-Jul-25, 12:33	I agree. I am a Buddhist but the concept is the same.
valley_forge 24-Jul-25, 12:50	America's Providential Care The concept of America's beliefs in God's providential care is deeply rooted in faith in biblical principles, as evidenced by historical and religious texts. Early Americans, including the Founding Fathers, often referenced divine providence in their writings and actions, emphasizing a belief in a God who actively guides and protects humanity, as seen in the Declaration of Independence. This belief was not only a philosophical stance but also a practical foundation for their actions during the Revolutionary War and the formation of the United States. Divine Providence in the Declaration of Independence: The Declaration of Independence includes a reference to "the Protection of Divine Providence," highlighting the Founders' belief in a God who actively supports their cause and provides guidance. Faith and Reason: Philosophers like John Locke discussed the relationship between faith and reason, suggesting that faith is based on the testimony of others and is a form of probable consent, which aligns with the biblical view of faith. God's Providential Care: Biblical passages such as Romans 8 emphasize the belief that all things work together for good for those who love God, reinforcing the idea of divine providence. Spiritual Priorities: The Gospel of Luke highlights the importance of prioritizing spiritual life, as seen in the story of Mary and Martha, where Jesus emphasizes the importance of spending time with God over worldly tasks. Christian Nationalism in Idaho: Recent developments in Idaho show a continued influence of biblical principles in shaping public policy, with groups advocating for the integration of Christian values into state governance. God's Purpose: Religious teachings emphasize that God's purpose for individuals is to be made in His image and to live a life centered on Christ, reflecting the belief in divine providence and purpose. "Divine Providence in the Declaration of Independence" americanheritage.org "Faith: Historical Perspectives" iep.utm.edu "God’s Providential Care" God’s Providential Care Also, it would be negligent to discount the fact that the DNC and those affiliated with this political party have historically not been very keen in upholding traditional family/ or American values and have historically been opposed or dismissive of these values.
valley_forge 25-Jul-25, 12:05	Rule of Law & U. S. Constitutions Taking Down Deep State "The Deep State Is in Real Trouble Now" pjmedia.com "Obama’s Real Legacy Comes into Focus" www.americanthinker.com
classica 25-Jul-25, 12:18	Building a RICO case takes years - be patient. It's not about slapping on handcuffs. It's about the public accepting what is coming. Presidential immunity applies for official acts. Disclosure is key. This may turn into a battle of legal AI's.
valley_forge 25-Jul-25, 12:32	American Constitution At Stake Here We're not witnessing an episode of The View Either the Deep State gets taken down or the American Republic gets put in the rubble heap!
classica 25-Jul-25, 13:26	The View saved this guy's life. He was in a coma for 3 months. One day the nurse came in and turned on The View. The guy got up and changed the channel.
valley_forge 25-Jul-25, 21:20	In response to Classica's post @ 5-Jul-25, 13:26 Obviously, you’re either not interested in continuing the discussion and you’re moving on or your trolling me. What do you think AI would do to American freedoms and liberities if allowed to make decisions for our Gov’t institutions? Do you trust AI enough to make personal decisions for your life?
victoriasas 25-Jul-25, 22:43	I thought classica’s 13:26 post was hilarious
softaire 25-Jul-25, 23:28	"I thought classica’s 13:26 post was hilarious" So did I... Good One.
classica 26-Jul-25, 00:51	I think AI is a tremendous tool, but it has no agency. Without agency, it does what the programmer tells it to do. Because of this, we must ask if we can trust the programmer. The other side of this is the garbage in / garbage out phenomena, where the AI arrives at a conclusion based on inaccurate information, or from propaganda. As such, I don't trust AI, but I see it as a tool. In this time period, we are still competing with other nations. It would be foolish not to develop AI while other nations are. The flip side of that logic is that the tech companies are building avatars of every citizen with accompanying databases of all activities and records. This can be used to predict behaviors, and provide deep inroads into social engineering and public manipulation. While this tech appears benign, later on it may fall into the hands that are not benign. Therefore, when considering AI and governance, I don't trust AI at all. I think the lesson is "trust but verify" with AI.
classica 26-Jul-25, 01:23	I used this tool www.malwarebytes.com and I found over 100 data brokers with my info. This tool helped me remove my data. Your data has been monetized. People can go to a site and buy your data. Almost everyone's data has been breached, including SS #'s. It is packaged up and sold on the dark web. One popular scam is cloning the image and voice, calling a relative, claiming an emergency and pleading for money. In this time, especially during this time like "the wild west" it would make sense to have identity insurance [Identity Guard, LifeLock]. I'm not sure if the surveillance state is inevitable, but it seems we are moving swiftly in that direction.
valley_forge 26-Jul-25, 08:32	In response to Classica's post @ 26-Jul-25, 01:23 What you have apparently uncovered is actually old news for Bible believing Christians. I'm not sure what other Christians 🙏 may make of this soon unfolding future, but as far as born again sons and daughters of Christ we're going to be in good hands whatever comes. "Mark of the Beast & AI: Is AI Part of the Devil’s End-Time Strategy?" www.destinyimage.com Thank you for responding. Also, have you heard anything about how so many are literally lining up to get chips implanted? Check this one out.
valley_forge 30-Jul-25, 09:45	DO YOU NOT BELIEVE THE TRUTH IS SPEADING? ALL WHILE UNDER CONSTANT ATTACK "7.30.25: TRUTH is spreading while under CONSTANT ATTACK, Earthquakes, shootings, PAIN, Pray!" rumble.com
valley_forge 30-Jul-25, 09:56	US House committee votes to SUBPOENA Bill and Hillary Clinton as part of probe into Epstein files, Ghislaine Maxwell - Fox x.com
classica 30-Jul-25, 10:13	I wonder which "Hillary" we get this time. I would be surprised if she was actually among the living. Body doubles and deep fakes abound.
valley_forge 30-Jul-25, 10:41	In response to Classica's post @ 30-Jul-25, 10:13 Thank you for that info; It would/ will interested if this particular issue is investigated, sure. However, looking past the Twilight Zone aspect of what the CIA has been doing for covering up their lies, getting into the abuses of power by whoever gets taken to the gallows, is the most important thing which President Trump's Administration has to get cleared up. Moving forward the American people have to understand that they can again trust in the process of electing capable and honorable political representatives. If that doesn't happen what good will any of this do?
classica 30-Jul-25, 11:04	The real story is the economy. If DJT gets that sorted - everything else is gravy. Meanwhile, Zohran's chances of being NYC mayor jumped up 5% overnight from 73% to 78%. polymarket.com
valley_forge 30-Jul-25, 13:17	ARe New Yorkers Really This Dense? Maybe New York's election process is as skewed as California's. I seen reports that California voters who want Newsom out are not being recorded
valley_forge 30-Jul-25, 13:18	1. Presidential Immunity and Civilian Courts As established in ‘Trump v. United States’ (2024) former presidents enjoy absolute immunity within for actions within their core constitutional authority and presumptive immunity for other official acts in civilian criminal prosecutions. This immunity is designed to protect the executive branch from undue interference and applies to federal and state courts. However, the Supreme Court’s ruling does not explicitly address military tribunals, which operate under a separate legal framework. 2. Military Tribunals: Jurisdiction and Scope Military Tribunals, such as those convened under the Military Code of Conduct (UCM) or special tribunals (i.e., for Guantanomo detainees, are primarily disignated for: - Members of the armed forces or civilians subject to military law (i.e., during wartime or under specific conditions). - Enemy combatants or individuals engaged in acts of war against the United States, as defined by military law or statutes like the Military Commissions Act. Former presidents, as civilians, generally are not subject to military jurisdiction ‘unless they engage in specific acts that fall under militar law’, ‘such as aiding enemies during wartime’. ‘Treason, while a serious crime’ is typically prosecuted in civilian federal courts under 18 U.S.C. & 2381, ‘not military tribunals.’ ‘unless the indivual is actively in hostilities or “subject to martial law.”
valley_forge 30-Jul-25, 13:19	II MILITARY TRIBUNALS INBOUND II OBAMA’S PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY LIMITED TO CIVILIAN COURTS II IMMUNITY FROM TRUMP VERSES UNITED STATES (2024) SHIELDS FORMER PRESIDENTS FROM CRIMINAL PROSECUTION IN CIVILIAN COURTS FOR OFFICIAL ACTS - II BUT MILITARY TRIBUNALS ARE A DIFFERENT BEAST II THESE TRIBUNALS, BUILT FOR ENEMY COMBATANTS AND WARTIME CRIMES, OPERATE UNDER UNIQUE LEGAL AUTHORITY, POTENTIALLY SIDESTEPPING CIVILIAN IMMUNITY REMEMBER DROP 619 (01/27/2018): DO YOU EXPECT HUSSEIN TO FACE JUSTICE IN CIVILIAN COURTROOM? RECALL JUSTICE KAVANAUGH’S IN 2018 CONFIRMATION HEARINGS -- SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM HAMMERED THE MILITARY’S DISTINCT JURISDICTION OVER TREASON, OR AIDING ENEMIES SIGNALING TRIBUNALS COULD BYPASS CIVILIAN PROTECTIONS! Q DROP 619: HOW DO YOU DEFUSE A BOMB? KNOWLEDGE OF WHICH WIRES TO CUT! TRUMP’S GENIUS -- ALWAYS 5 STEPS AHEAD! Who is helping POTUS? The generals that wanted to bring Obama to justice, to begin with
valley_forge 31-Jul-25, 09:59	Where We Go 1 We Go All WE ONLY GO PUBLIC WHEN WE WANT THE TARGET TO KNOW "7.31.25: TIME to INDICT Obama, We Knew this DAY would COME, TREASON, Lying SPIES, Pray!" rumble.com
classica 31-Jul-25, 20:59	To the average person, does it not seem suspicious that evidence was found in "burn bags"? 🤔
classica 01-Aug-25, 06:17	Interesting observation by X22. During his presidency, Obama had immunity. After his presidency - Jan 2017 onward - he does not have immunity. What I am very disappointed about is that historically democrats stood for protections against corporate greed. Now, the democrat platform has been so corrupted and polluted with DEI and Climate fakery that their basic function has been long forgotten, especially as we approach the age of AI and advanced robotics which will take jobs and erode human rights. The delicate balance of power has been unhinged due to the unbridled corruption of our democrat leaders. It's no longer a party working for the people, but a party working for Soros.
valley_forge 01-Aug-25, 07:59	The DNC Had Been Taken Over by the Demonic Yes, it is sobering (to say the least!) how much the DNC has changed in the last 20 - 30 years! There is an explanation, however. "Liberalism (the "Left"): a Demonic Deception & Satanic Takeover in American Thinking" www.jimfeeney.org What we're dealing with here in America is purely a spiritual battle IMO. This is why "They don't play fair or follow their own laws.
classica 01-Aug-25, 08:14	I'm a Buddhist, so even if I don't subscribe to the exact scripture - what matters is what those who practice this believe. "Satan is the father of lies, and lies are the inversion of truth." This inversion is apparent all over the place - which is, by definition, satanism, e.g. "blame the victim", transexualism, "trust the science", etc.
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