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valley_forge 08-Jun-25, 20:04	How Hard Did You Look, Andrew? The Pilgrims and Puritans had distinct obligations among themselves and towards obedience to the Scriptures. The Pilgrims, also known as Separatists, believed that the Church of England was irredeemably corrupt and thus separated entirely from it, seeking to establish a pure church based solely on biblical principles. They emphasized individual conscience and direct covenant with God, leading them to establish a community in the New World where they could practice their faith freely. On the other hand, the Puritans aimed to purify the Church of England from within, believing that it could be reformed to align more closely with biblical teachings. They did not see the need to separate from the Church of England and instead focused on internal reform. This difference in approach led to different obligations and practices regarding obedience to the Scriptures. While both groups valued the Bible highly, the Pilgrims were more inclined to interpret it strictly and act independently of established church structures, whereas the Puritans sought to reform existing structures to better reflect biblical teachings. Both groups were deeply committed to their religious beliefs and sought to live according to their interpretations of the Scriptures, although their methods and goals differed significantly Puritans en.wikipedia.org www.history.com The Puritans www.history.com www.christianity.com theconversation.com The Pilgrims’ Mayflower Compact as a Covenant americanheritage.org Covenants of New England (1629-1639) www.apuritansmind.com Creeds and Confessions of the Church
apatzer 08-Jun-25, 20:40	Leaning on your own understanding with bring you ashes for a reward. Every time. Believe in the one God sent and listen to him. Anything else is from the Evil one.
valley_forge 09-Jun-25, 07:53	1 Thessalonians 2:19 / Crowns Of Rejoicing “What will be our…crown as we stand before our Lord Jesus when he returns? It is you!" An interesting and arresting observation about Bill Bright is highlighted today in the devotional study on rejoicing in Christ Jesus 🙏. "Bill Bright’s example; he was one of the best soul winners of the twentieth century. And he once disclosed his secret: “Although I have shared Christ personally with many thousands of people through the years, I am a rather reserved person and I do not always find it easy to witness. But I have made this my practice, and I urge you to do the same: Assume that whenever you are alone with another person for more than a few moments, you are there by divine appointment to explain…the love and forgiveness he [or she] can know through faith in Jesus Christ.” When was the last time you shared the gospel with someone? Whenever you do, the Lord is fitting you for a crown of rejoicing." The crown of rejoicing app.wordforyou.com
valley_forge 09-Jun-25, 08:00	Beware of Narrow Minded Ideology In response to Apatzer's post @ 08-Jun-25, 20:40 For contemporary Christians, the Pilgrims and Puritans offer lessons in perseverance, faith, and the pursuit of religious freedom. The Pilgrims' journey exemplifies courage and resilience in the face of hardship, as evidenced by their willingness to endure harsh conditions and loss of life to establish a community based on their religious convictions. Their commitment to their faith despite severe challenges can inspire modern believers to maintain their principles even when faced with adversity. Similarly, the Puritans' emphasis on community and the establishment of a society grounded in religious ideals highlights the importance of collective effort and moral integrity in shaping societal values. However, it is crucial to recognize the complexities and darker aspects of their histories, including their involvement in the slave trade and their treatment of indigenous populations, which provide a more nuanced understanding of their legacies. In summary, while the Pilgrims and Puritans offer valuable insights into the power of faith and the pursuit of religious freedom, their stories also underscore the importance of critically examining historical narratives and striving for ethical and inclusive practices in contemporary contexts
apatzer 09-Jun-25, 08:39	Did the pilgrims and puritans die for you? And thank you, Because I am narrow minded and focused when it comes to Jesus Christ.
valley_forge 09-Jun-25, 11:04	In response to Apatzer's post @ 09-Jun-25, 08:39 Pilgrims and Puritans were so focused on sharing the love of God through their faith in Jesus Christ's sacrificial example of this love that they looked out for their neighbors. They regularly gave from their own pantries regardless of how little they may have had, to make sure their neighbor's needs were met. They looked out for their neighbor's children and their animals and property. They knew their neighbor's names, who their neighbor's parents were and they practiced their faith according to Biblical principles. How many Christian churches or even Christians do you know which live their faith to this degree?
valley_forge 11-Jun-25, 10:05	"The Gospel is the Word of Christ. Many have the Word, but it dwells in them poorly; it has no power over them. - Matthew Henry Commentary on Col 3:12-17 Put on then, as God’s chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassionate hearts, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience, 13 bearing with one another and ,iif one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. 14 And above all these put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony. 15 And let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, to which indeed you were called in one body. And be thankful. 16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God. 17 And whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.
victoriasas 11-Jun-25, 10:29	The Gospel is found in 1 Corinthians 15… “Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” (1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
victoriasas 11-Jun-25, 10:57	This is a thread on “What is the Gospel?” m.gameknot.com And I think John MacArthur does a good job of explaining the Gospel in the first post in that thread… “What is the true gospel ?[John MacArthur]” youtu.be Video is 8:14 I don’t agree with John MacArthur’s views on Calvinism and Lordship salvation, but he doesn’t mention either of those in that video. No idea if his views on those subjects changed after this video, but the straight Gospel (and only Gospel) is salvation through believing in Jesus Christ… “What does it mean to believe in Jesus?” www.gotquestions.org
valley_forge 12-Jun-25, 09:51	"Lifeing It Out" / My Wife's Paraphrase for "Walking In the Spirit" Today, if you find yourself feeling impatient or anxious about a situation, pause and trust God’s timing. Take a moment to pray for peace and strength to wait on His direction, knowing that His plans for you are always good. From the YouVersion Bible study Pathways to Purpose / lesson 26 of 49
valley_forge 16-Jun-25, 07:59	Jesus Christ 🙏 Is Coming Back "This is a season to develop our fellowship with Jesus and keep on being filled with the Holy Spirit. A flask full of oil represents our faithfulness to Jesus and our history with Him. You cannot borrow oil from anyone on that day i.e. you cannot live off someone else revelation, anointing, or history with God. You cannot even rely on your history. Is your relationship with Jesus current, alive and thriving?" From the YouVersion Bible study The Well Trimmed Wick; Parable of the Ten Virgins / FINISHING WELL & STRONG (lesson 3 of 6)
valley_forge 17-Jun-25, 07:31	Where & What Are We Investing In? / Mark 4:34-38 "What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul? For what can a man give in return for his soul?” (vv. 36–37)." Coram Deo Living before the face of God In the modern world, little thought is given to the state of one’s soul. People turn to continual entertainment, addictive substances, sexual immorality, and more, distracting themselves from the deep questions of life and thoughts about the state of their souls. As Christians, we dare not follow their example. We can enjoy many things in this world, but let it not be at the expense of the state of our souls. tabletalkmagazine.com
valley_forge 17-Jun-25, 08:58	Prophetic Insight if I Ever Heard It! "The chief danger that confronts the coming century will be religion without the Holy Spirit, Christianity without Christ, forgiveness without repentance, salvation without regeneration, politics without God, heaven without hell." - William Booth
valley_forge 18-Jun-25, 09:04	Public Speaking You can speak well if you can deliver the message of your heart ~ John Ford American film director
thumper 18-Jun-25, 09:42	You can speak well if you speak well?
valley_forge 18-Jun-25, 09:49	What We're Passionate About Will be Known From the abundance of the heart comes out of the mouth
valley_forge 18-Jun-25, 10:00	No Ordinary People / Titus 3:1-11 This study from Our Daily Bread is a great reminder for what N G Club is desiring to accomplish. Thank you, Doug and Bruce! "How we treat others reveals whether we see them as image bearers or God or not. C S. Lewis wrote of this in The Wright of Glory: "There's no ordinary people," he said. "You have never talked to a mere mortal." Lewis anticipated eternity, where we'll either enjoy God's presence or be banished from him forever. So he reminds us, "it is immortals who we joke with, work with, marry, snub and exploit - immortal horrors or everlasting splendors." No Ordinary People odbm.org
thumper 18-Jun-25, 11:36	VF That's profound and thought provoking. I've never considered it quite that way. Wow, we're actually talking with immortals!! Thanks for that edification. If you actually knew who you're dealing with would you continue to treat them the way you do?
valley_forge 18-Jun-25, 11:56	More Stinking Thinking Revealed "What God provided before the Fall men now scramble to provide for ourselves" Someone was doing a teaching about the desperate attempts we make to protect or keep what we're afraid of losing on the BBN radio network. ("Something clean in the air" is their motto) Yes, Thumper, God's ways are much better and higher than our ways!
valley_forge 19-Jun-25, 07:34	Nourishing Our Faith Hope isn’t blind optimism—it’s built on memory. It’s rooted in the trials we’ve walked through and the faithfulness we’ve seen along the way. Like David, we can face the giants not because we’re strong, but because we remember who God has been. From the YouVersion Bible study Pathway to Purpose/ lesson 32 of 49
valley_forge 20-Jun-25, 07:22	Resting In Jesus 🙏 "Proverbs 16 gently reminds us that while we’re free to dream, plan, and hope, it’s ultimately God who holds the blueprint. That can sound discouraging at first—especially when we REALLY want something to happen. But here's the truth: when our hopes are in HIS hands, they're safer than we could ever keep them on our own." From the YouVersion Bible study Pathway to Purpose/ lesson 34 of 49
valley_forge 20-Jun-25, 08:07	The Good 'ol Days Did parents really just let their kids wander the neighborhood all day with no phone and just say ‘be back before dark’?” Yes, it is true. I and my younger sister did it all the time. During the school season and summer vacation. The entire neighborhood where we lived allowed their kids that freedom. What a beautiful picture, huh?
apatzer 20-Jun-25, 08:19	Deleted by apatzer on 20-Jun-25, 08:19.
apatzer 20-Jun-25, 08:19	Yes, until children started finding their way onto milk cartons. I use to roam the forest and surrounding areas all day long as a child. Sometimes by my self. And I can tell you if at least three occasions that if it wasn't for divine intervention and me listening to that voice. I probably wouldn't be here.
valley_forge 20-Jun-25, 09:24	Pointing Fingers As Old As Time "Wicked men lay the blame of their miscarriages upon others, oftentimes upon God himself.” ~ Poole
valley_forge 20-Jun-25, 09:29	"Do we see laziness as sin? The servant was arrogant and fearless. He thought he was calling the master out on his bad management or attitude toward him. How often do we behave like this with God and sometimes even our bosses? We think we know better. God, you should have answered this prayer a long time ago or I would not be in this mess. It is your fault! My boss does not know how hard I work so I’m not going to work hard anymore. We are reminded that we do not work for mere men but as unto God." From the YouVersion Bible study The Well Trimmed Wick/ Parable of the Ten Virgins - lesson 5 of 6
thumper 20-Jun-25, 10:02	Apatzer We also spent our youth exploring and roaming. The directive was always to get our chores done first then be back home by either dark or dinner. We weren't fragile things with helicopter parents.
valley_forge 20-Jun-25, 10:44	I regularly took walks to the Missouri River 8-10 blocks from my home. A school friend lived about half way there; a couple blocks from 3-5 rail tracks I had to cross. Each time I went it was an adventure. No telling what interesting junk or animals I might find! And Robert is spot on about the kids on the milk cartons! Around the mid to late '60s!
valley_forge 20-Jun-25, 11:07	Deleted by valley_forge on 21-Jun-25, 19:39.
valley_forge 21-Jun-25, 19:40	Bill Border turned his back on a family fortune and ministered to students at Yale, orphans, widows, and alcoholics on the streets. Before he died, he wrote, ‘No reserve, no retreats, no regrets.’ No reserves: Hold nothing back. No retreats: Never turn back. No regrets: Serve God - and others - and your rewards in heaven is assured. (See 2 Timothy 4:6-8) “We can not all do great things, but we can all do small things with great love.” - Mother Teresa
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