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apatzer
18-Aug-25, 20:38

VF
All News is biased and also slanted to adhere to the opinions of it's ownership. With that said some news is registered with the FCC as. For instance some broadcast licenses are associated with categories like "entertainment" because the FCC licenses stations based on the technical use of the spectrum and the type of service they provide, rather than strictly by content like "news" or "journalism.".

To say that any reporting is false out of hand, isn't accurate. Most reporting has an element of truth which they cement the opinions to or on top of. However when we are talking about actions, words, and event's they are much easier to prove. For instance during the outbreak of COVID 19, Trump was telling America they had it under control and it wasn't bad. When he previously had a conversation with Bob Woodward which was recorded. Where he said it is far worse than the most strenuous flus.

So some things can be reliabily verified. If you're willing to do the work it takes. Most are not.
valley_forge
19-Aug-25, 10:19

"All News is biased" / Unless It's Purpose Is To Expose Evil
The American Republic has been battling this bias since a citizen seen the inherant danger of the false narratives which kept the American people ignorant and in the dark regarding their rights to self government!

And We Know is the only news platform besides Steve Bannon's Warroom who have been reporting about this bias since 2016, and Donald J Trump announced for the American Presidency.

PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH

STORM WARNING ISSUED

"8.19.25: PEACE through STRENGTH, Storm warning issued, Stolen Election COMMS, CHILDREN, Pray!"

rumble.com



apatzer
19-Aug-25, 12:51

Saying something is false doesn't make it so. Evidence does that. Saying something is true doesn't make it so. Evidence does that. Your exposing Evil while working for evil, is like fighting evil with evil. What good is that?
valley_forge
19-Aug-25, 14:04

In response to Apatzer's post @ 19-Aug-25, 12:51

Isn't it obvious that you are still parroting the same MSN lies from your response here? It is to me because you have not even reviewed the information from the video.

Why?
apatzer
19-Aug-25, 15:33

Valley Forge 14:04

Thank you sir, we finally have something to work with that isn't vuage ambiguous generalized statements. You do know that I am very fond of the truth. So if I am parroting lies I really do want to know about it. Since you know whats going on. Could you do me a favor and point to the specific posts, and the specific sentences that contain the specific lies? Also if you would present evidence that clearly shows it is a lie that would be most helpful. I'm not fond of the "just trust me bro" type of evidence so I'll need something a little more concrete.

I know I can count on you man, don't let me down. Thanks
valley_forge
20-Aug-25, 09:52

In response to Apatzer's post @ 19-Aug-25, 15:33

To begin with I must apologize for accusing you falsely.

What I’m perplexed about is IMO it seems to me there’s only two choices for Americans politically. And the one party which is opposing and fighting against President Trump are the DNC.

Coupled with this is the duplicity of the MSM in covering and promoting the DNC against Trump.

I get it that you’re evidently keeping from endorsing or supporting Trump because he’s a terrible example for being a Christian. Fine. But seeing IMHO that he’s the only politician who’s fighting against the Satanic DNC political policies and promoting more Christian values than anyone else, why do you still demonize him?
valley_forge
20-Aug-25, 09:58

DARK TO LIGHT

THE INITIAL WAVE
WILL BE FAST
AND
MEANINGFUL

"8.20.25: DARK to LIGHT, The INITIAL WAVE will be FAST and MEANINGFUL, MSM losing, Pray!"

rumble.com

valley_forge
20-Aug-25, 11:48

Example Of True Leadership
A New York Times reporter asked White House Press Secretary why President Trump didn't call President Putin on the phone after all the E U leadership were speaking with President Trump at the White House Oval Office.

She answered that true leaders like Putin would have found that disrespectful.

President Trump's showing the world true leadership through his ability to communicate real substantial negotiating skills. Less than 48 hours after his meeting with Putin the entire E U leadership is here in America talking with President Trump about what he and Putin had talked about 48 hours before.

For the first time since Putin and Zelensky began this war the whole world is watching an American President make peace there a real possibility.
valley_forge
20-Aug-25, 13:33

The DNC Is An Enemy of the American People
"IT’S HAPPENING: Stephen Miller Calls Democrat Party an “Extremist Organization”, Says “Evil” Sanctuary City Mayors Still Defying ICE Detainers and “Now They Face Potential Criminal Charges for Harboring and Smuggling” (VIDEO)"

White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller went off on sanctuary city and state officials for their “evil” policies and called the Democratic Party an “extremist organization,” while signaling that lawless Democrats could now face criminal charges for harboring and smuggling aliens.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

apatzer
20-Aug-25, 19:43

VF
Thank you, your apologies are accepted.

I think I need to clear some things up. I don't Demonize Donald Trump. He does that himself.

Meaning, To demonize someone means to portray or describe that person as evil, wicked, or worthy of contempt, often exaggerating or distorting reality to make them seem dangerous or morally corrupt, regardless of whether it’s true or not.

I actually do care if it's true or not and often go to great lengths to verify things. If it is true then it's not Demonizing.
apatzer
20-Aug-25, 19:48

VF, PS
Also, it's way more than he’s a terrible example for being a Christian.

But I won't list it here. I will if you want me to. Have you ever read "He who can be trusted with very little can be trusted with much. I don't want to miss quote the Bible so I'll post it.

Here is Luke 16:10-14 from the New International Version (NIV):

10 “Whoever can be trusted with very little can also be trusted with much, and whoever is dishonest with very little will also be dishonest with much.
11 So if you have not been trustworthy in handling worldly wealth, who will trust you with true riches?
12 And if you have not been trustworthy with someone else’s property, who will give you property of your own?
13 “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.”
14 The Pharisees, who loved money, heard all this and were sneering at Jesus


He has repeatedly in his entire life screwed over thousands of contractors, business partners, wives, friends, cheats and steals at will. Has launched one fraudulent scheme after the next. If you don't believe me, ask your favorite AI.

Sorry but I trust the Bible to be accurate.
valley_forge
20-Aug-25, 20:13

Well Robert, I quess we want different things when it comes to an American President. If you want a good Christian role model you can find them in many places. But you’re not going to find him in Donald Trump.

He’s a man who gets things done in a world alligned against his accomplishing anything good for America and Americans.

I’ll look to God and Jesus for moral clarity and a model for my conduct.

But as the American Republic needs a strong leader who knows how to get things done according to our needs, I’ll just keep supporting President Trump, Okay?
valley_forge
21-Aug-25, 11:53

Trump's MAGA Movement Sinking of DNC Continues Unabated!
"Democrats Getting Clobbered by GOP in Voter Registration Nationwide, ‘Cratering’ with New Voters"

August 20, 2025

The report by Times (1) national political correspondent Shane Goldmacher and data journalist Jonah Smith paints a grim picture for Democrats hoping to retake the House and Senate in 2026 and White House in 2028, along with all the critical statewide electoral battles.

(1) www.nytimes.com

www.mediaite.com

P S: See, Apatzer, Trump's Presidency is about taking care of America's citizens through political policies which empower the American people, not about being any kind of religious role model.
valley_forge
21-Aug-25, 12:16

Yup, Winning BIGLY Is Good 😊
"Stephen Miller calls out D.C. pro-crime protesters as "white hippies" who are elderly and need to go home for a nap, because they are all over 90 years old."

x.com

"Secretary Duffy said the department has been working on this for months. They came out in May with an English-only policy to ensure truck drivers understand road signs for safety."

x.com

"Their top two options for president in 2028 are either Gavin Newsom or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, per Polymarket."

x.com

"the Chairman of Bed Bath & Beyond announces they will NOT open any retail stores in California."

x.com
softaire
21-Aug-25, 12:30

Apatzer
"Also, it's way more than he’s a terrible example for being a Christian."
...................................................................................................

I hear Christians say that everything is arranged and happens according to God's plan.
If that is true, then it follows that Trump is our President because it conforms with God's plan.

WHY would you oppose God's plan and say that Trump is a terrible Christian when God has allowed him to become President and must deem him a good Christian?

Might God have approved of Trump because he would be the one person able to resolve wars and military conflicts? These may or may not hold; however, there has been NO other person able to accomplish what has been done by Trump. God probably sees him as our best hope, right?


### 🕊️ Claimed Peace Agreements or Ceasefires

| **Israel–Iran (2025)** | Ceasefire after 12-day war | Trump ordered strikes on Iranian nuclear sites and brokered a ceasefire. Experts call it a fragile truce, not a lasting peace. |

| **India–Pakistan (2025)** | Ceasefire in Kashmir region | Trump claimed U.S.-led talks ended hostilities. India disputes U.S. involvement, saying it acted independently. |

| **Democratic Republic of Congo–Rwanda** | Peace agreement signed | Brokered by the U.S. in Washington. Fighting has since resumed in eastern Congo, casting doubt on its effectiveness.

| **Cambodia–Thailand** | Ceasefire after border clashes | Trump threatened trade consequences to push for peace. Ceasefire agreed, but long-term stability is uncertain. |

| **Armenia–Azerbaijan** | Peace agreement signed | Trump hosted leaders at the White House. The deal lacks resolution on the Nagorno-Karabakh dispute. |

| **Ethiopia–Egypt** | Claimed resolution of Nile dam dispute | Trump suspended aid and claimed peace, but no formal war or agreement occurred. Tensions remain. |

apatzer
21-Aug-25, 13:02

Softaire , with all due respect sir
You have heard wrong sir. I don't assume to say anything is a part of God's plan. And anyone who does is doing themselves and everyone else a huge disservice. Because God's plan is to believe in the one he sent and listen to him. I also didn't say Trump is a terrible Christian!!! Valley Forge actually said that and I happen to exemplify past just that because it is more than just that. How can we have a conversation if even the basic facts are being miss-represented?

Was it God's plan that Lucifer should fall from heaven or did he bring it on himself? So I should just also be cool with Satan because all that was according to God's plan right? Right? Your basically saying the same exact thing. There is passage after passage in the Bible that warns people about people like Trump. He there is an entire chapter devoted to people who calls themselves Christians yet are Slanderers, gossipers, drunkards, idolaters and sexually immoral. We are called to have nothing to do with such people.

You really don't know anything about the Bible and Christianity and what it is to be called to be a Christian. Go learn all of that and then you can come back and talk to me about God's plans.

Key word of your list is "Claimed" he makes lots of claims, many of which are hollow.

valley_forge
21-Aug-25, 13:17

In response to Softaire's post @ 21-Aug-25, 12:30

Once more, sir, you have found a very honest and transparent, cut out the crap, way to ask for an explanation for a duplicitous attempt by one who doesn't understand the difference between the spiritual realm and how the spiritual realm affects the natural realm.

Enough said; Except for thanks 🙏, very much.
valley_forge
21-Aug-25, 13:21

Restoring Sanity To American Public Schools
"Want to Teach in Oklahoma? You May Have to Prove You’re Not ‘Woke’"

July 10, 2025

Amid an ongoing teacher shortage, Oklahoma announced plans for a new test to screen teachers from states considered “woke.”

The state education department announced Wednesday that it is partnering with the conservative media company PragerU to develop a new certification test for teachers relocating to Oklahoma from states with “a history of promoting anti-American narratives.”

www.edweek.org
valley_forge
21-Aug-25, 13:28

In response to Apatzer's post @ 21-Aug-25, 13:02

Whether or not Trump is a good or bad example for what a Christian aught to be completely ignores the central reason WHY he is the best man for what America needs today.

Compared to any other President in recent memory IMO Trump has been doing more, and doing better, regarding the political policies which are supportive of Christian faith values and our Christian Heritage than any other President since maybe Lincoln.

If you can keep political policies and religious beliefs and doctrines separate from one another IMO, what I'm saying shouldn't be difficult to understand.
apatzer
21-Aug-25, 13:59

VF
Thanks for the advice but I am sorry. I am a part of the Body of Christ doing what you ask of me would be like cutting my legs off so that I can run faster. You can do and speak as you please and do what you will. As for me and my house we shall worship the Lord.
valley_forge
21-Aug-25, 14:42

In response to Apatzer's post @ 21-Aug-25, 13:59

As you're "serving the Lord" are you aware or not aware American Christians have a responsibility to elect good leaders?

At the end of the day will you be your brother's keeper or not?
softaire
21-Aug-25, 15:50

"You can do and speak as you please and do what you will. As for me and my house we shall worship the Lord."
..................................................................................

I don't see how that should affect how you feel about Trump "doing God's work" and resolving the killing, carnage, and destruction in those military conflicts. Stopping the killing IS "God's work", right? Nobody else has been able to do it. God chose Trump?

It seems to me that approving of what Trump has done, and is trying to do, should be acknowledged as something God approves of. Is that not true?
valley_forge
21-Aug-25, 17:25

Traditional Family Values & Tried and True Monetary Systems
Are directly the outcome of America's historical Heritage IMO.

And reflects what the MAGA Movement is focused on.
apatzer
21-Aug-25, 17:37

Softaire
According to the Bible absolutely not, I thought I've repeatedly shown over the years. Exactly why.

@VF, traditional family values went right out the window a long time ago when 1 income earner was no longer sufficient for a family to survive on. There was a time when a hard working individual could provide for his family. And not just hold thier noses above water. But thrive and have 2.5 children and a home. With a wife who ran the household and helped teach the children in addition to school. Mammon made short work of that and Mammon is who you are working for oddly enough.
apatzer
21-Aug-25, 17:42

P.S.
The golden age of America was right before and then after WW2. when what I mentioned above was possible. And it became possible because of FDR. Then the middle class was slowly squeezed from every direction financially. The Banks drove the value of property up and up and up. While that's great for existing home owners. It's horrible for new parents who don't own a home. The Middle class has all but been squeezed out of existence. And ask me how that happened???

That is the issue they don't want you to see. They get you fighting on the X axis so they don't have to fight on the Y axis. And people are too brainwashed to think any different.
thumper
21-Aug-25, 17:50

Apatzer
'The plan' has been in the works for a long time (roughly 2k years) so whats happening now isn't or shouldn't be a surprise.
softaire
21-Aug-25, 18:09

I said at 15:50 on 5/21:
"It seems to me that approving of what Trump has done, and is trying to do, should be acknowledged as something God approves of. Is that not true?"

And you say at 17:37 on 5/21:
"According to the Bible absolutely not, I thought I've repeatedly shown over the years. Exactly why."

I'm mentioning this simply to make sure that you are responding to my post and that I am not misunderstanding something. That means (to me) that you are saying that the Bible does not approve of somebody ending wars or military conflicts, thus saving lives. To me, I would think that is exactly wrong. I would think that saving lives and ending conflicts is exactly what the Bible, and God, are all about.

I am really confused now. Cal you explain better your views and how this works?

softaire
21-Aug-25, 18:28

Apatzer
"The Banks drove the value of property up and up and up. While that's great for existing home owners."
................................................................................

THAT is not the main driver of rising property costs.

Interest rates one of the main drivers of housing (homes, condos, and apartments) costs. The Federal Reserve sets the interest rates which get filtered down to the banks and then ultimately to the consumer. The Fed has two goals: to keep inflation under control and to stabilize unemployment at a low rate. Their mandate has nothing to do with rising or lowering property values.


Another main driver is the government and organizations who are against housing proliferation in their local area. They have banned together to stop new construction, low income construction, and loss of green space in their communities.

So, the loss of housing supply is caused by the government and people who do not want to see their community become overcrowded and degraded by cheap housing, massive population increase, increased crime and drugs. New and increased housing supply is massively opposed and keeps supply to a minimum. Government assists this by issuing massive, burdensome regulations that make it almost impossible for builders to build.

*** Notice that the people in LA have NOT yet been able to obtain building permits from the state or city. Has nothing to do with banks.



valley_forge
21-Aug-25, 19:58

@ Apatzer
>> @VF, traditional family values went right out the window a long time ago when 1 income earner was no longer sufficient for a family to survive on. There was a time when a hard working individual could provide for his family. And not just hold thier noses above water. But thrive and have 2.5 children and a home. With a wife who ran the household and helped teach the children in addition to school. Mammon made short work of that and Mammon is who you are working for oddly enough.>>

When American Christian Churches sold their souls for 30 Pieces of silver (by agreeing to abide by the 5013c tax code) they ceased to be led by the Spirit of God and to speak truth to Christians like the American Christian Heritage had always done before!

The premise that Christian churches are misled by a "lie" about 501(c)(3) tax breaks is not accurate according to IRS rules. Churches are automatically considered tax-exempt under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code simply by existing, without needing to apply for or receive a formal determination letter from the IRS.
This automatic status means churches are recognized as 501(c)(3) organizations by default, not because of a deceptive claim about tax breaks.

While churches are not required to file Form 1023 to obtain this status, they may choose to do so to receive an official IRS determination letter. This letter provides proof of their tax-exempt status, which can be beneficial for donors who need to verify that their contributions are tax-deductible and for the church to secure property tax exemptions.
However, the lack of a determination letter does not negate the church's tax-exempt status; it remains valid under the law.

The idea that churches are being misled into believing they receive a "tax break" is a misunderstanding. The tax-exempt status is a legal recognition of their religious purpose, not a financial incentive. Churches are not required to file the annual Form 990 information return, unlike most other 501(c)(3) organizations, which means their financial activities are not subject to public disclosure.
This lack of reporting is a significant difference between churches and other religious charities, which must file Form 990 annually.

Some argue that the automatic 501(c)(3) status limits churches' ability to engage in political activities, such as endorsing candidates, which some view as a "muzzle" on their speech.
However, this restriction applies to all 501(c)(3) organizations, not just churches, and is a condition of maintaining tax-exempt status. Churches that wish to avoid these restrictions can choose to operate as for-profit entities, but this would mean forfeiting their tax-exempt status and the ability to offer tax-deductible donations to supporters

"Tax information for churches and religious organizations"

www.irs.gov

"Tax information for churches and religious organizations"

www.irs.gov

"501(c)3 and the Prostitution of American Churches"

discover.hubpages.com
thumper
21-Aug-25, 20:27

From what I've seen they just need more houses for those millions who have flooded across the southern border. Simple supply and demand.
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