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apatzer 19-Aug-25, 12:54	Just because you see it as lecture doesn't make it so. I am sharing things just like VF does. So am I lecturing and he is not? That's a fairly skewed view of things wouldn't you say? If you don't like reading the truth then don't Read it.
apatzer 19-Aug-25, 12:58	Thumper And speaking of Pharisees and Sadducees get a load of this Thumper. In the New Testament, the Pharisees and Sadducees often resisted correction or rebuke, especially when it challenged their authority. When confronted with truth—whether from Jesus Himself, or from others who had experienced His power—they responded with indignation rather than humility. Their words carried the spirit of “How dare you lecture us?”, reflecting pride and a refusal to be taught by those they considered beneath them. For example, in John 9, after Jesus healed the man who had been blind from birth, the Pharisees scornfully dismissed him when he testified to what Christ had done. Instead of rejoicing in the miracle, they drove him out, saying in effect: “You were steeped in sin at birth; how dare you lecture us!” These kinds of responses show their defensive pride, their fear of losing religious authority, and their unwillingness to receive truth that exposed their hardness of heart. Would you like me to go a step further and provide you a compiled summary of all the main passages where the Pharisees and Sadducees answered in this kind of spirit? That way, you’ll have a fuller picture in one place. Yeah, how dare I share the truth and it comes off like lecture. I thought I've heard that type of attitude somewhere else before.
apatzer 19-Aug-25, 12:59	Now you will ask me if I'm rebuking or correcting. I'm sharing, take it as you will, I have no control over that and don't want control over it. Perhaps it would be better if you ignore me.
valley_forge 19-Aug-25, 14:01	In response to Thumper's post @ 19-Aug-25, 08:56 Exactamundo! The only professing non converted (persuaded) Christian (Softaire) on several occasions pointed to this hypothetical behavior. Did you notice, Thumper, if there was any change in the kind of posts that went up to SHOW him we were genuine? And what do we get from Apatzer following your post? More of the same looks like.
thumper 19-Aug-25, 14:19	Now hold on there VF. My referenced comment was meant mostly for you and for Vic but it seems Apatzer got rounded up too.
valley_forge 19-Aug-25, 14:42	@ Thumper Yup, looks like it, doesn't it? Well, now, let's see if there will be any change moving forward, huh?
apatzer 19-Aug-25, 15:29	Thumper You have my apologies sir. I wrongly took at as directed at me. That was wrong of me I apologize.
valley_forge 20-Aug-25, 10:54	Ellicott's Commentary For English Readers/ Hebrews 12:2 Reading through this commentary from Ellicott's Commentary I was much impressed with how well he ties so many other Bible verses related to Hebrew 12:2, and that just explodes with relevancy and confirmation to Bible's Author as God 🙏 himself! Mere men could never have provided such profound spiritual unity as what we have today. "Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God." (2) Looking unto Jesus.—As in Hebrews 2:9, the description precedes the mention of the name, “Looking unto the Author and Perfecter of (our) faith, Jesus.” The first word is very similar to that of Hebrews 11:26; the runner looks away from all other objects and fixes his gaze on One. Jesus is not directly spoken of as the Judge (2 Timothy 4:8); but, as the next words show, He has Himself reached the goal, and His presence marks the point at which the race will close. As the last verse spoke of our “patient endurance,” this speaks of our faith, and of this Jesus is the Author and the Perfecter. The former word has occurred before, in Hebrews 2:10; and here, as there, origination is the principal thought. There the idea of leading the way was also present; but here “Author” stands in contrast with “Perfecter,” and the example of our Lord is the subject of the clause which follows. Because it is He who begins and brings to perfection our faith, we must run the race with our eye fixed upon Him: in Him is the beginning, in Him the completion of the promises (2 Corinthians 1:20); and in the steady and trustful dependence upon Him which this figure describes consists our faith. More of the verse above is commented on in the link below. biblehub.com
valley_forge 31-Aug-25, 07:23	John 14:25-27 / Assurances to Believers Through Holy Spirit's Presence In my meditating on these promises from Christ Jesus 🙏 this morning I am encouraged because of my heart's desiring to engage in holy reverence upon the Holy Spirit's leading and presence. Which is what Jesus was asking his followers to do after he left. Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary 14:25-27 Would we know these things for our good, we must pray for, and depend on the teaching of the Holy Ghost; thus the words of Jesus will be brought to our remembrance, and many difficulties be cleared up which are not plain to others. To all the saints, the Spirit of grace is given to be a remembrancer, and to him, by faith and prayer, we should commit the keeping of what we hear and know. Peace is put for all good, and Christ has left us all that is really and truly good, all the promised good; peace of mind from our justification before God. This Christ calls his peace, for he is himself our Peace. The peace of God widely differs from that of Pharisees or hypocrites, as is shown by its humbling and holy effects. biblehub.com
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