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valley_forge 17-May-25, 06:17	"We are half-hearted creatures fooling around with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us." C. S. Lewis
victoriasas 17-May-25, 06:46	Indeed… “But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.” (1 Corinthians 2:9) “Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.” (Psalm 16:11) “This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.” (1 John 1:5)
valley_forge 30-May-25, 09:04	Implosion Of the DNC So Bad . . . The only men gravitating towards the Democratic Party are men who want to be women ~ Charlie Kirk
apatzer 08-Jun-25, 19:43	"patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel," ~ Samuel Johnson
valley_forge 08-Jun-25, 20:09	Context for "Quote" Above Samuel Johnson was not necessarily against American patriotism in general but rather critical of the false use of the term "patriotism" by certain individuals and groups. Specifically, Johnson opposed the self-proclaimed patriotism of William Pitt, 1st Earl of Chatham, and his supporters, who he saw as using patriotism as a guise for self-interest. Johnson valued what he considered "true" patriotism, which he defined as a genuine love for one's country, rather than a cloak for selfish motives. Therefore, Johnson's criticism of American patriotism was rooted in his perception of it being misused for personal or political gain, rather than representing a genuine love for one's country. www.quora.com Political views of Samuel Johnson en.wikipedia.org
valley_forge 08-Jun-25, 20:11	"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. Theodore Roosevelt
apatzer 08-Jun-25, 20:36	" patriotism is a faux virtue of the vicious" ~ Oscar Wilde
valley_forge 09-Jun-25, 07:12	Example Of Those Who Bite the Hands that Feed Them / Oscar Wilde In the United States, the First Amendment protects the freedom of speech, allowing individuals to express dissenting opinions, including criticisms of patriotism. This protection extends to foreigners like Wilde, ensuring that his critique could be shared and debated freely. Oscar Wilde may have been a tad elitist, but he was a shrewd observer of the “community” paddybriggs.com
thumper 09-Jun-25, 08:23	It's ironic that patriots can be mocked and ridiculed by people who enjoy the very protection the patriot provides while refusing to extend the same courtesy to others.
apatzer 09-Jun-25, 08:37	Thumper That's an interesting quote? Who is it attributed to?
valley_forge 09-Jun-25, 09:51	In response to Thumper's post @ 09-Jun-25, 08:23 Isn't that what is going on in Los Angeles and in New York City; Oh, wait those "protestors" aren't ordinary citizens who have been attacked by illegal immigrant criminals, are they?
apatzer 09-Jun-25, 12:50	Not everyone who calls themselves a patriot is an American patriot. Cult members aren't patriots IMHO. “To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” ~ Theodore Roosevelt
apatzer 09-Jun-25, 12:53	The quote commonly cited as “When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross” is widely attributed to Sinclair Lewis, but there is no definitive evidence he actually wrote or said these exact words. The sentiment closely reflects themes from his 1935 novel It Can’t Happen Here, which warns that American fascism would likely be disguised as patriotism and traditional values. Other similar versions have appeared over the years, but the precise phrase remains unverified as a direct Lewis quote.
valley_forge 09-Jun-25, 12:59	Fascism Lies About President Trump's MAGA Movement Not one American right or freedom has been taken away while he's been America's President
apatzer 09-Jun-25, 13:04	You really should try thinking before you type. The statement "Not one American right or freedom has been taken away while he's been America's President" is false. Multiple credible sources document that, during Donald Trump's presidency, several rights and freedoms were curtailed or threatened: Freedom of Speech and Protest: The Trump administration used federal agents to suppress protests, particularly Black Lives Matter demonstrations, and threatened to use the military to quell dissent. Protesters and journalists were arrested and sometimes subjected to excessive force, undermining First Amendment rights. Freedom of the Press: Trump repeatedly attacked journalists and media outlets, sued media organizations, and attempted to use regulatory power to stifle unfavorable coverage, threatening press freedom. Civil Rights Protections: The administration weakened protections for marginalized groups, including rolling back anti-discrimination protections for LGBTQIA+ people and threatening to defund schools over diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives. Immigrant and Refugee Rights: Policies included mass deportations, family separations, harsh asylum restrictions, and fast-track deportations without due process, all of which undermined the rights of immigrants and asylum seekers. Academic Freedom: The administration threatened schools with funding cuts for supporting DEI programs and targeted student protestors, especially non-citizens, with threats of deportation for exercising their right to free speech. These actions demonstrate that rights and freedoms were not only threatened but, in several cases, actively restricted or undermined during Trump's presidency.
valley_forge 09-Jun-25, 13:07	In response to Apatzer's post @ 09-Jun-25, 13:04 All of these have been reliably reported by the MSM, right?
thumper 09-Jun-25, 13:11	Apatzer 08:37 That's just me commenting though similar sentiments have been expressed over the centuries.
apatzer 09-Jun-25, 16:18	VF I don't know if they have or they haven't. Just because the MSM reports on something doesn't make it true. And just because they report on something doesn't mean it's false either. You have to use your agency and source multiple accounts and sources. But by all means if anything I posted is false, by all means prove it and then I'll retract and apologize. I'll wait.
valley_forge 09-Jun-25, 18:56	@ Apatzer Many of the agencies I have used for news and information since 2016 have been censored and otherwise targeted by the platforms they once were welcomed to use as independent journalists and news/ information platforms. Saying that is suspiciously coordinated by the MSM as their narratives invariably portray these platforms as “disinformation” which coincidentally are the only platforms which positively report news about President Trump. Why is it that journalism positively reporting information about President Trump are black listed as disinformation? Yet, when negative news/ information about the DNC is given the “red carpet” treatment? Saying all that to say that if the MSM is reporting President Trump’s policies are taking away freedoms and restricting freedoms in excess of what Presidents prerogatives are I do not believe that whatever freedoms and restrictions of speech he has been responsible for is even a dent on the freedoms and restrictions of speech/ information the DNC and the MSM have jointly taken away from Trump’s supporters; especially in light of the propaganda they’re using to gaslight the American people with on a regular basis. Seriously, however, isn’t your biggest reason for not supporting President Trump is because you’re supporting Progressive and Anti Traditional American values? I find it astonishing how you can say you support Christian faith values yet still side with the Anti Christian and anti traditional family values of the DNC?
apatzer 09-Jun-25, 19:46	VF I will answer your questions when you quit dodging mine. And you couldn't be more wrong in your suppositions about me. My biggest reason for not supporting Trump, is he claims to be a brother in the faith, but is sexually immoral, a slanderer, an idolator, a liar, with things coming out of his own mouth like "I love money, I'm a greedy person" and "I don't think I've ever asked God for forgiveness" not to mention how lawlessness the man is. And I could go on. In fact I could write about 10 paragraphs of his behavior, words, actions and deeds along with things he says he wants to do and write about 20 paragraphs. I'm sorry, It is my personal opinion and I truly believe this. That Donald Trump could rape an underage girl in the middle of 5th avenue and some people here would say... Yeah, but look at what she was wearing. And for your information, I was just as critical about Hillary Clinton, in fact that was the reason Softaire initially liked me. Democrats and Republicans are two different wings on the same Goldman Sachs buzzard bird. They don't work for us. Your prices come down yet? How is that grocery bill looking these days.? You can try to make up whatever story you want about me, if it makes you feel better about what you are whole heartedly supporting.
apatzer 09-Jun-25, 19:48	By the third quarter of 2027 your eyes will be open.
cyber-1 12-Jun-25, 11:31	God 2 Corinthians 4:4 I believe this verse means Satan has a temporary influence over those who reject God 1 John 5:19 We know that we are of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one I believe that Satan hates us, but God Loves us and is protecting us! I think Satan has influence, but not total control.
valley_forge 12-Jun-25, 12:17	In response to Apatzer's post @ 09-Jun-25, 19:46 Since the beginning of the American Republic the American President has always been responsible for protecting the American people and the Constitution. Does not the First Amendment clearly outline a separation of responsibility between the Gov't and the religious beliefs of the American people? If you have an issue with the allegations of immoral conduct of the President that has no bearing on his responsibility as America's President! Most American people don't give a flying flip about what you're pointing out here. Get real, sir!
valley_forge 14-Jun-25, 09:31	Paying Protestors to Protest "Who would have thought of paying idiots to be idiots" ~ interviewee being interviewed on Jesse Waters Live
apatzer 16-Jun-25, 13:02	"When a man tries to change the world, he fails for one simple and unavoidable reason: everyone else."
valley_forge 16-Jun-25, 13:08	In response to Apatzer's post @ 16-Jun-25, 13:02 Amazing how much good one President's fulfilling promises to the American people who voted for him can make for one country, huh?
cyber-1 16-Jun-25, 13:10	The President is doing amazing things, which need time! The Future is Bright!
cyber-1 16-Jun-25, 14:40	Sorry wrong president The French President is doing amazing things, which need more time. The Future of France is Bright!
cyber-1 16-Jun-25, 15:52	My information came from Neil amacivn Neil gave me info from his magazine "The Daily Duck" in which he was doing an article about Trumpeters and the French President
apatzer 16-Jun-25, 17:02	VF I have yet to see any of them fit that description. Next you guys will put up a banner "Mission Accomplished" let's see, Trump promised to eliminate the deficit in his 2016 run, mission accomplished, he promised to build a wall that Mexico would pay for from sea to shining sea and when the Mexican president complained, Trump said the wall just got 10 feet higher... Mission Accomplished, he promised to end the war in Ukraine on day one .. mission accomplished, he promised to bring down prices, they have went up, mission accomplished, he promised a million deportations per year, we are around 100k heck Obama did better than that. Mission Accomplished. I won't bore you with any more, I could keep writing all night
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