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thumper
06-Aug-25, 17:14

I've been to both college (business and engineering) and trade-school (welding and engineering) in the 80s and 90s. Guess which has better served me in my life.
apatzer
06-Aug-25, 17:27

dmaestro
True, I don't think many people would be happy with where we are today. Our founding fathers as a nation are rolling in their proverbial graves.
classica
06-Aug-25, 17:27

Call it what you will, conformity or whatever,
I would like NYC return to a time when it was very
safe and the tourists flocked to the city. With no-bail
and defund the police promoted by some candidates,
I am concerned about how NYC will look when we host
8 World Cup games and the 250 July 4 celebrations,in 2026.

The free buses won't work because it's a state issue.
Gov run grocery stores will face massive resistance.
The Jewish community hates him.
He also likes the idea of ending private property.
The city may become less safe.

This guy is going to have so much resistance from all
sides, it's doubtful he, or any other mortal, can effectively
be a mayor of NYC in that setting - but who knows?
apatzer
06-Aug-25, 17:28

Thumper
"Welding and engineering". Because the business world is rigged but a trade is for life.
thumper
06-Aug-25, 18:10

Apatzer
My world for decades has been defined by the pursuit of truth and demonstrative fact. If it isn't true it breaks, fails and/or kills someone. No one to my knowledge has ever died or been injured because of my lack of judgement. Yes, I can be an ass at times but that's a separate issue.  
apatzer
06-Aug-25, 18:28

As can we all . (Be an ass at times) That is great about your work tho
dmaestro
06-Aug-25, 18:55

Bring guns even bombs as needed to the ongoing fight. That is what the majority of Dems demand. No more surrender. www.yahoo.com. www.yahoo.com The MAGA GOP crossed a red line. I expect Mamdani will act more centrist for NYC average voter than it would appear. Cities are not Kansas or Hillbilly country. We live our values not MAGAs.
thumper
06-Aug-25, 19:12

DM
'We' have had a massive and overwhelming firepower as well as strategic and tactical advantage for decades. You're fortunate that we don't think like you do. Would you prefer that restraint to change?
dmaestro
07-Aug-25, 00:12

That “restraint” won’t last…It’s just easier to gradually strangle dissent that way to hide the existential thread you pose. But more are woke to you and America won’t last either. I will be happy with the vindication when it falls. There are enough of us to speed that along.
valley_forge
07-Aug-25, 09:51

<< There are enough of us to speed that along. >>

Oh, really? 😂

You know, Bruce & Doug, there may be "enough of them" to whine and complain about how President Trump's trying to get all the holes plugged which the DNC and their Progressives have opened up in the nation. Thankfully, I'm resting easier knowing that ICE and the FBI are now working on protecting us rather than surveilling us!
valley_forge
07-Aug-25, 09:53

CLEAN AND SWIFT

WHO CONTROLS THE NG?

"8.7.25: WHO controls the NG? Biggest Drop on POL, Good vs Evil, for the CHILDREN, Pray!"

rumble.com
dmaestro
07-Aug-25, 10:31

VF
www.yahoo.com

You fool less and less. We know what your MAGA plans for dissenters are and you have as predicted rigged the entire system including the SCOTUS for your lawless revenge. First migrants, then the rest of us, hunted down like Texas Democrats are now on a national scale. Your success would literally mean our doom. You know it and I know it; and you even boast of it. I can’t alter fate but vindication will be mine and there are enough woke so that you will inherit ashes. Enjoy!  
valley_forge
07-Aug-25, 10:46

The Communist Manifesto & American Constitution Ave Antithesis of One Another
"Democrats have become the party of war. Americans are tired of it"

In defending the militarist status quo, Democrats ceded the anti-war lane to Republicans. As they enter the political wilderness, it’s time to reckon with what they got so wrong

www.theguardian.com
dmaestro
07-Aug-25, 13:08

VF
archive.is

Those of us woke to your Christofascist plans for tyranny know very well what you have in store for us. You are at war against us and allies with tyrants. Thumper is correct you think you have the arms and power advantage and intend to use it on us while too many naive opponents fell for the “it can’t happen here” fallacy. In fact it can and will. And MAGA is no match for the Xi/Putin axis.

Nobody should take your “restraint” and we are “peace lovers”
con seriously BTW, it’s just part of your plans to deceive. We are in fact like mongoose vs cobra and you think God is on your side in your war against us.

But what you all underestimate is there are enough of us who will accept we need to just let a house hopelessly divided against itself fall as is destined. This country left us. As for you personally, judgement awaits, and you are going to be shocked at the results and who you serve. But that’s fate so let it be. Other than showing I know your plans I have no interest.
dmaestro
07-Aug-25, 14:43

www.yahoo.com

What you don’t understand is that the USA simply doesn’t have the leaders period needed to rise above the dilemmas and karma it faces this cycle of history. That isn’t partisan, it’s reality. Like Rome before and the Hebrews before that, which we are emulating. That lack is the promised sign of what is to come; and its destiny. So any self centered false prophet pied piper like Trump and false prophet religious leader will do for those seeking a worldly savior; but that is destiny at work to speed the decline, not save the country or the world from a future which faces growing authoritarianism, division, and conflict. What is coming is far worse than you think. And like the Tower of Babel human efforts will fail. So all your culture war nonsense won’t work.
thumper
07-Aug-25, 15:04

Apparently we only have 6 years left.
valley_forge
07-Aug-25, 15:25

In response to Thumper's post @ 07-Aug-25, 15:04

But that's only true if you don't get Arkancided!
dmaestro
07-Aug-25, 18:14

Enjoy the ride!  
classica
08-Aug-25, 07:53

Why Britain Arrests 30 People EVERY DAY For Speech
www.youtube.com [7 minutes]

China has Social Credit Scores. We have Risk Assessment. Now the EU is is arresting people for what they post on social media. The contention is that "the left has lost the ability to argue" their POV in an open forum, and instead chooses to censor dissenting points of view. It seems we are marching as a civilization towards the Orwellian conclusion: the boot of totalitarianism stomping endlessly into the future.
Source material:
modernity.news

x.com

needtoknow.news
valley_forge
08-Aug-25, 08:19

"Are You A Man Or A Mouse?"
According to a Gallop Poll posted by DM on one of these threads AOC and Bernie Sanders are both polling higher than President Trump.

If those polls are accurate either Americans will be facing similar demographics as those in Britain or we will witness justice for the political crimes now being investigated by the FBI.

Personally, evidence suggests IMHO because our military is supporting the American President martial law will not allow those "peaceful protesters" which the Deep State's depending on to let them get away with the treasonous crimes they have committed.

Britain's military is in the hip pocket of their own Gov't so no such rescue is possible for those citizens, unfortunately.

thumper
08-Aug-25, 08:50

Classica
A basic question here is whom do they choose to make an enemy? Does your country choose to relinquish what makes you a unique and individual nation? A big difference between us (Britain and America) IMO is your inability to defend yourselves.

As an example, if say South Africa was flooded with many millions of white Europeans would it still remain 'Africa'?
valley_forge
08-Aug-25, 08:59

American's Identity
In response to Thumper's post @ 08-Aug-25, 08:50

Spot on observation, Doug!
valley_forge
08-Aug-25, 09:41

ILLEGALS WILL NOT BE COUNTED IN CENSUS

ALL IN [BLUE WAVE] MIDTERMS

"8.8.25: NO BARGAINING, A Traitor’s Justice, PAIN, Winning BIGLY! Pray!"

rumble.com

valley_forge
08-Aug-25, 11:25

SUBPOENA DATES
Hillary Clinton - Oct 9
Bill Clinton - Oct 14
Merrick Garland - Oct 2
James Comey - Oct 7
William Barr - Aug 18
Alberto Gonzales - Aug 26
Jeff Sessions - Aug 28
Robert Mueller - Sept 2
Loretta Lynch - Sept 9
Eric Holder - Sept 30

This is the master list of America’s political mafia --
and they are being forced into the one place they
can’t spin, lie, or run: under oath, with the penalty of perjury.
No press conferences. No media cover. Every word
they speak can lead to indictments.

This is not “politics as usual”. This is war.
The depositions will rip open classified closets,
expose the bloodstained machinery of the Deep
State, and set the stage for trials that could shatter
Washington’s power cartel forever. If Hillary cracks,
Benghazi, the emails and foreign bribes could
explode into the open. If Mueller breaks the truth
about the Russiagate hoax could finally detonate. If
Garland falters, the DOJ’s two-tiered system could
be exposed beyond repair.

Every answer could trigger a chain reaction that
burns down decades of corruption. They are
cornered, and cornered animals are dangerous. The
American people must watch every move, because
this is the first real crack in the armor in a
generation.

The subpoenas are out. The dates are locked. The
seats are ready. The Deep State titans are being
dragged - kicking and screaming - into the light.
And this time, there is NO ESCAPE.
valley_forge
08-Aug-25, 11:49

Hear Me Out

Trump is hinting that he wants to use the Naional Guard to stop the crime
in D C and secure the Capital.

This comes at the same time he is investigating the Deep State
cabal and a grand jury is being impaneled.

What if these two things are connected?

If Trump is actually going to follow through on high-profile arrests,
he is going to need control of D C. He will need complete security
to pull off arrests, military presence would give him the ability to mask
movement of high-profile targets, and he will need the National Guard
in place preemtively to shut down any riots or uprisings, because the public
will probably be outraged if certain high-profile individuals are arrested.

There is going to be a “corruption purge” here in the United States simiiar to
the one in Saudi Arabia in 2017, Trump taking federal/military control
over D C would be necessary.

Food for thought.
classica
08-Aug-25, 11:55

*popcorn... Mmmm*
valley_forge
08-Aug-25, 12:11

In response tro Classica's post @ 08-Aug-25, 11:55

Mmmmm indeed!

I was too young re recall the ins and outs when it happened, but am I mistaken, but didn't President Kennedy basically do the same thing (using the rule of law) to take down the Mafia with his attorney brother Robert Kennedy?
classica
08-Aug-25, 12:15

Let's go to the video tape...
"The President and the Press",
Before The American Newspaper Publishers Association,
27 April 1961, is pubic domain content.

www.youtube.com
thumper
08-Aug-25, 12:31

VF
And we know what ultimately happened to Kennedy... and Lincoln. I could list another dozen or so influential people who were an active threat to the system (swamp).

Classica
Don't forget the 3-D glasses and some extra butter.  
valley_forge
08-Aug-25, 12:35

In response to Classica's post @ 08-Aug-25, 12:15

Sir, I’m brought to tears to consider how honestly and sincerely our politicians and the press once interacted with one another; And to reflect and to see how this openness and transparency has been reduced to an immoral and brutal state of war within our own borders!

How many Americans are left today who can recount these earlier and more innocent times, I wonder? I also wonder how many Americans today can be reasonably expected to understand the fine nuaances which that video has expressed so succintly?

Hopefully, there are enough Americans who understand that duplicity, hypocrisy and two-faced lies have no place in American politics!

Thank you! Thank you, with all my heart for this beautiful reminder of where we once were as a united community of Americans.
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