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 Softaire I'll give you an analogy that should help paint a better picture. Chocolate chip cookies, made with the finest ingredients in the world and cooked by the best pastry chef's ever. They also include 4 % Rat feces, 2% pig feces, .002% roach egg pieces and 1 % raccoon urine. How many would you like to eat? Actually this isn't a good analogy, the percentages in Trump are much higher. Charity fraud, Trump University fraud, business fraud, real estate-related fraud, discrimination. 26+ allegations of sexual assault including an allegation of Child rape. But I'll stop here I literally could go on and on and you don't want to hear it. So I'll spare you having to read it. Hey man support whomever you want. I know what the Bible says. So we will not have the same perspective. |
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Apatzer I think my post about banks and property values was fairly stright-forward and easy to understand. So probably you are responding to my question/request that you explain HOW or WHY God and the Bible would not want someone to resolve wars and military confrontations. I ask for your explanation because your answers have me very perplexed... They are NOT what I would expect. Your last post at 21:30 is simply incomprehensible. It did NOT help me understand anything at all. Please try again... I am sincerely interested. |
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Apatzer And BTW, Trump claims to have stopped 6 conflicts, not the "one or two good things" you are willing to allow..."That I should just overlook his life long patterns of behavior because of this one or two good things you think he is doing." It must really make you angry when you see that Another group has joined a growing list calling for President Donald Trump to receive the Nobel Peace Prize: Buddhist monks in Cambodia. The latest group supporting Trump's desire for a Nobel Peace Prize? Cambodian monks www.msn.com |
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Softaire Just to be clear and I am asking for your expert help here. A person who is making claims should back those claims up with easily verifiable evidence. So sir I am going to have to ask you for evidence of these claims. If true I will absolutely acknowledge it. I also Have a question for you, if you would be so kind. Do you think that Hitler was a part of God's plan for the world? And do you think that him lifting Germany out of the Great depression and building the autobahnen should be praised without mentioning everything else he did? Also , no It doesn't make me angry that groups are calling for Trump to win a Nobel peace Prize. Heck I wouldn't even be angry if he won one. It is good business to offer a malignant narcissist gift's, praise and adulation. They are doing what's in their best interest in the same exact way as Apple did, giving an award on top of a 24 ct Gold bar. It's the fastest way to Trumps heart. |
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WE ARE TAKING BACK OUR COUNTRY "8.22.25: Who CONTROLS the NG, No WAR, No CIVIL UNREST, CLEAN and SWIFT, CDC, WOKE, Pray!" rumble.com |
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............................................................................................................................... No, there is NO new framing. I modify my comments based on your previous response, which seems to show that you misunderstand or are misinterpreting my questions or posts. My "new framing" is meant to help YOU understand the meanings of what I have said. However, the intent of my comments are all fairly consistent with one common statement or idea. Also, I base my understandings of what you think and feel based upon what you write in your posts. You seem to often contradict yourself from one post to another, so it is possible I misunderstand what you truly believe. As an example, go back and read where you deny saying that Trump was a terrible Christian and then follow up by reading all the terrible things you associate him with and accuse him of being. Those would be poor examples of being a Christian, no? I will ask, one more time just to be clear... Do you think God and the Bible would look favorably on a person who is able to end wars and/or military conflicts which could/would inflict death, violence, injury, and destruction of property on peoples of the world? Would this not be a good Christian outcome that should be applauded? Or, should we deny and denigrate it because we don't like the person who accomplished it? |
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It precedes President Obama, it precedes Hillary Clinton. I’ll go back to the 1st example in my own life that was an eye-opening experience: the manufacturing of intelligence claiming there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, to justify the Bush administration going to war. " news-pravda.com |
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@ Apatzer / Trump Standing Up For Patriots "FREE TINA PETERS, a brave and innocent Patriot who has been tortured by Crooked Colorado politicians, including the big Mail-In Ballot supporting the governor of the State," Trump posted to Truth Social on Thursday morning. "Let Tina Peters out of jail, RIGHT NOW." www.newsweek.com |
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I’ll go back to the 1st example in my own life that was an eye-opening experience: the manufacturing of intelligence claiming there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, to justify the Bush administration going to war. ......................................................................... Tulsi Gabbard is correct. I can go back further than that. I can go back to probably the predecessor of the deep state... President Johnson and his intelligence quacks that said we were attacked by North Vietnam in the Gulf of Tonkin which allowed Johnson to get Congressional approval for him to wage (officially) the Vietnam War. |
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VF @Softaire, you evolve your questions and framing over time. That is a fact. I don't mind it either like I said. Because that type of thing happens. I'm not the first person to point this out to you. Heck I'm not even the third person to have pointed this out to you. It's all good tho. |
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Apatzer Is that it? No conversation on the question about God, Bible, and ending conflicts? You can't discuss if ending conflicts is a good Christian goal and would be approved by God and/or the Bible? You have no opinion? OK, but it's your choice to leave the question unanswered. My opinion is that it would be approved. |
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Softaire You have left many of my questions unanswered. As well as my point of focusing on a couple of good things while ignoring a plethora of Bad. To be perfectly honest with you, I don't even attempt to speak for God. However according to the Bible preventing conflict and peace resolutions are a good thing. You really don't understand Christianity and that's ok. God gave you a free will. In Christianity anyone who breaks the least of the law and commands are guilty of breaking them all. All sin is equal for the acception of Blasphemy against the holy Spirit. Which is According to the Bible, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit refers to a specific, deliberate act: accusing Jesus of operating by the power of an evil spirit (Satan) rather than the Holy Spirit after witnessing clear evidence of God's work. This event is described in Matthew 12:22–32, Mark 3:22–30, and Luke 12:8–10. In these passages, religious leaders who saw Jesus perform miracles attributed those miracles to demonic powers rather than to the Spirit of God. Biblically, blasphemy is “defiant irreverence.” In this context, it means willfully attributing the works of the Holy Spirit—clearly demonstrated in Jesus’ ministry—to evil, out of hostility or rejection, even though one recognizes the truth. It is not an accidental or ignorant act, but a persistent, hardened opposition against the Spirit’s testimony about Christ, repeated despite knowing better. This is considered unpardonable because, by totally rejecting the Spirit's work and the offer of forgiveness, the person places themselves beyond repentance. To summarize: Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit means maliciously and knowingly attributing the evident work of the Holy Spirit through Jesus to the devil. It is an ongoing, hardened rejection of God's grace, resisting the Spirit’s call to repentance and faith. The Bible teaches that this sin is “unforgivable” because it reflects a total, final rejection of the only means of forgiveness: the Spirit’s testimony to Christ and God’s grace. ****BTW**** I answer way more of your questions than you do mine sir. |
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@ Apatzer Looking into the issues regarding Tina Peters, it appears this well-meaning ‘election denier’ crossed the line when she broke laws in her misguided attempts to find evidence for her convictions and was adjudicated to suffer for her poor decisions. Most ‘election deniers’ like myself understand the cards are stacked against us, and the best course of action is to just lick our wounds and go on and fight legally to win against anti American ideologies designed to destroy the American Republic or make it unrecogniziable from what traditionally has always been our cherished values. |
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Apatzer For NOT even attempting to speak for God, you do a lot of telling us what God, Jesus, and the Bible means and says. It seems you are telling us exactly what they mean... ie. speaking for them. ........................................................ "You really don't understand Christianity and that's ok" It seems to me that I know at least a little bit about Christianity because as you say: "However according to the Bible preventing conflict and peace resolutions are a good thing." and I was right about that. Thanks for answering my question. It wasn't that hard was it? Why did it take so long? ...................................................................................... The other part of your post about blasphemy was very interesting and well appreciated. Thanks for that. I will try to remember it and consider it, in my discussions, as I pursue my education. However, I don't believe that asking a Christian a question about God, Jesus, or the Bible would be blasphemous. Do you think I have asked a blasphemous question? |
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Softaire This is the old question. Q. Can God do anything? A. Yes of course he can. Q. Then can he build a mountain so high that he himself can not tear down? It's ok that our conversation took a long time. At least we are talking to one another. I didn't mean that "You don't understand" as an insult or a slander. I can see how that may have come off. I'm sorry if you took it that way, I apologize. To be perfectly honest, Perhaps some of my apprehension came from the prior wording of God's plan threads. And I felt as tho you were trying to corner me for some reason. Because guess what? We could ask the same thing about literally any human being who has ever lived. There are no fully bad people. Hence my saying I have used for years. I'm not going to have the yeah but he built the in Autobahn conversation. However when God's involved it's different. If we were just talking about the good things he has done or the bad. I really wouldn't have had angst about it. Not because I fear someone punishment or making God angry. But because I fear misleading you by my human answer and misrepresenting my father to an audience. I hope this sheds more light on my side of the proverbial coin |
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VF If a person votes twice in an election. They can get 5 years in prison for it. So am I to understand that if they voted twice for Biden they should do the time? But if they voted twice for Trump they should be shown mercy and every consideration? What she did was far worse. As an American patriot, what Tina Peters did was deeply wrong and dangerous. She was entrusted with a vital responsibility—to protect the integrity of our elections—and instead, she betrayed that trust by allowing unauthorized access to sensitive voting data. This reckless act didn’t just threaten the security of our democratic process; it fueled dangerous conspiracy theories and encouraged a climate of distrust and division in our country. Her actions led to real harm, including threats to election workers and hefty costs for her community to fix the damage she caused. She set a terrible example for others by putting personal fame and false narratives ahead of the truth and the rule of law. Election integrity is the backbone of our democracy, and when people in positions of trust abuse their power like this, it undermines the very foundation of our nation. That’s why her conduct deserved to be met with serious consequences—to send a clear message that no one is above the law and that preserving fair elections is a solemn duty for all Americans. |
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P.S. Softaire I'm going to ask you a question. This question might sound silly or simple. And although simple silly questions can be good. It is not intended as an insult or anything like that and I believe it is also worth answering. In your own words can you tell me what a Christian is? Then , ask AI or look into various answers and compare them. I have always much preferred "Follower of the way" to "Christian" And here is why. The term "Christian" was first used to describe the followers of Christ by the Gentiles in the city of Antioch. According to the New Testament (Acts 11:26), it was in Antioch that "the disciples were first called Christians." The name was likely meant as an insult or a satirical nickname by the Greeks of Antioch, who commonly gave such nicknames to groups by adding the suffix -ianus to a leader's name. For example, Pompey's followers were called Pompeians. Similarly, the followers of Christ were called Christians, meaning "those of the party of Christ." Early believers did not use this term for themselves; they referred to themselves as disciples, brethren, or saints. The term "Christian" reflected how outsiders identified them, possibly in a dismissive or mocking way at first. However, the term was eventually embraced by believers themselves and became the standard designation for followers of Jesus Christ |
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Sorry for bombarding you (Followers of the way) Early Christians were originally called "followers of the Way" because Jesus described Himself as "the way, the truth, and the life" (John 14:6). This term emphasized that their faith was not just a set of beliefs but a committed lifestyle following Jesus’ teachings and example. Before the term "Christian" became common, these early believers identified as followers of the Way, highlighting their dedication to living according to Jesus’ path of love, humility, and truth. It reflected both their journey of faith and their identity as a community devoted to Jesus’ transformative way of life. |
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Apatzer So the term 'Christian' was originally meant as mockery or belittling insult? That's interesting. I didn't know that but I'm somehow not surprised. |
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Speaking Of 'Fair Elections', . . . Isn't it way past the time when the American Republic should join with the rest of the world and stop kidding ourselves that the DNC isn't abusing the mail in ballot? I heard that we're the only country who lets ourselves get fooled by allowing who knows who to vote by mail. "President Trump Announces Movement to Eliminate Mail-In Ballots & Voting Machines" www.independentsentinel.com |
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Apatzer Regarding God's Plan... I have heard time and again that God has a plan for everything. And, everything that happens is due to God's all encompassing plan. Whenever something goes wrong, the excuse is that it is part of God's overall plan but, it is implied, that the victim(s) will be made whole again in another part of the plan. However, whenever something goes right, the explanation and honor is given to God as it was His doing as part of His plan. For example: The recent flooding in Texas that killed some people, including children. While the survivors gave credit to God for saving them, nobody mentioned that it was God's plan that killed the others? Or, was it part of his plan? Does God's Plan cover everything? How does that work? FYI- My personal opinion (at this time) is that God does NOT have individual plans for each of us. He is not micromanaging us. He is not responsible for our good fortunes or for our personal disasters. He may be involved on a macro-level, but I believe that we have been given "free-will" in order to make our own personal decisions, choices, and actions which result in the consequences to us. Having "Free-Will" means being able to live life with the opportunity to take-our-chances with nature, traffic, life in the nuclear age and all the other hazards that are out there naturally. What do you think? |
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What do you think? >> Yes, certainly God has given to all of us free will to either include him in a real personal relationship, accepting all the good or the bad; On this basis we'll be empowered to REST by faith that whatever happens it's going to "work for our good"(Romans 8:28 / And we know that [a]God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.) Those who do not have this faith to rest trusting in God, they'll be continuingly looking over their shoulder W/O rest and peace. God doesn't promise anyone a life W/O trials and testings. It's up to any one of us to either trust in God through Christ Jesus, or not. |
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