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 Softaire However we have said a lot back and forth and my memory isn't nearly what it use to be. So I will answer this with a better more considerate and concise answer for you to consider. In fact I probably shouldn't even use the word answer but rather reply with my opinion based on the Bible. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts so openly, because this is one of those questions that challenges people deeply, especially when tragedy or bad things happen. Saying every bad thing happens because it is “God’s plan” is not really biblical, even if it is often said with the intention of comforting others. The Bible makes a clear distinction between God’s sovereignty (that He is ultimately in control) and the reality of human free will and a fallen world. The Bible teaches that God is not the author of evil or disaster in the sense of willing people’s suffering (James 1:13) It reminds us that God does not tempt anyone to do evil. Instead, much of the brokenness we see in the world—like natural disasters, sickness, and death—comes from living in a creation that has been marred by sin since the fall (Romans 8:20-22 speaks of creation groaning under corruption). And we can plainly see that the corruption of wealth and the drive to obtain more and more has lead to all manner of poisoning the earth. You might not believe in climate change but the Defense Department and Pentagon do. And have issued reports on how this affects our bases around the world. It is costing humanity Billions of not Trillions. Due to people's greed and unwillingness to develop new technology (for decades, we are trying now, too little to late) however some of the confusion comes from misinterpreting things cuz we are not fully understanding. When we read the Bible and see that God can bring good even out of tragedy, and that nothing is beyond His ability to redeem or use for His purposes (Romans 8:28). That doesn’t mean He causes those terrible events, but rather that He is present in them, comforting, guiding, and sometimes bringing about outcomes we can’t yet see. To say that God “planned” the death of an innocent child is not only painful but theologically misleading—it shifts blame to God rather than to the reality of a fallen world and human free will. What is true and comforting is that God is with us in suffering, He grieves with us (John 11:35 shows Jesus weeping at death), and He promises that one day He will wipe away every tear and make all things new (Revelation 21:4). So, I think it’s more accurate and more faithful to Scripture to say that while God is sovereign and nothing is outside His knowledge, not every tragedy is “His will.” Instead, He has given us freedom in a world where both good and evil happen, but He remains near to those who call on Him, bringing hope even in the darkest times. That way, we’re not attributing evil to God, but acknowledging His presence and His redemptive work despite it. I hope this is a better answer than I gave before. I'm sometimes lazy in writing but have recently made more effort. |
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P.S. When I think about God’s promise to make all things new, I can’t help but wonder if maybe—just maybe—we are glimpsing that truth in ways we don’t fully understand yet. This is just my personal opinion, not a declaration of how God works. Still, with all the recent discoveries about the universe being so precisely fine‑tuned for life, and even the growing discussions around the multiverse, it stirs up something in me. Back in the mid‑90s, I felt deeply impressed—revealed to me, in fact—that our universe itself might be inside a black hole. At the time, when I shared that idea, most people thought I was out of my mind. Yet now I see more scientists giving serious thought to similar possibilities. Interesting how what once seemed absurd no longer feels so far‑fetched. Think about an artist, a sculptor, or even a potter at the wheel. They refine, reshape, adjust, and improve their creation with care, patience, and vision. In the same way, when I reflect on passages in Revelation and throughout Scripture—where it speaks of heaven and earth passing away, yet God’s word enduring forever—I see a pattern of divine artistry at work. The Bible also points to a new heaven and a new earth, a reality where God Himself will dwell among His people, fully present and accessible. Perhaps we are living in a time of refinement. God, in His mercy, gives us free will—freedom to choose how we live, what we believe, and whom we follow. But ultimately, He gathers to Himself those who listen, those willing to trust Him, and they will be part of that renewed creation. Of course, Scripture is equally clear that there’s another place prepared for those who ultimately reject Him—a place set apart from His new creation. We know what that place is called. Just some food for thought. |
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Mr. Bruce John 10:18. In this verse, Jesus says: "No one takes it from me, but I lay it down on my own. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father." No one who believes in him will be put to shame and all those who believe in him are saved. John 3:16: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." This verse emphasizes that salvation is available to everyone who believes in Jesus. Romans 10:9: "If you declare with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." Salvation comes through faith in Jesus. Acts 16:31: "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household." Ephesians 2:8-9: Salvation is by grace through faith, not by works, so no one can boast of earning it. But the ultimate choice is yours, and that's exactly how it should be. Your free will is sacred |
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Trump's MAGA Supporting Christian Faith Principles August 7, 2025 While he has made overtures to Jewish, Muslim and other religious groups, his Christian supporters have been among his most high-profile surrogates and appointees. The Trump administration has green-lit political endorsements from the pulpit and encouraged religion in the federal workplace. Trump has established faith-focused entities with numerous influential Christian appointees. He’s energized supporters with assaults on cultural and academic targets long seen as liberal bastions. His administration and his Supreme Court appointees have expanded areas for religious exemptions and expression in the public square. apnews.com |
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VF I have trouble reading and speaking "Scripture" so just to be clear on what you are saying: You wrote "Yes, certainly God has given to all of us free will to either include him in a real personal relationship, accepting all the good or the bad; On this basis we'll be empowered to REST by faith that whatever happens it's going to "work for our good"(Romans 8:28 / And we know that [a]God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.)" I currently think you mean God's Plan covers everything (good and/or Bad) that happens to believers and that they should accept it thinking that ultimately it will be for their own personal good. Is that correct? In other words, the parents of the dead children in the Texas flood should accept it and know that ultimately it was for the best? Personally, I don't believe God had anything to do with it and I think that ideology is wrong. Sorry! |
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Apatzer I hate to admit this but I'm having trouble keeping up. There were two remaining posts to reply to and now this one. I'm not sure if your current post relates to any of the two previous remaining posts; if it is a reply to my answer to your number one post; or if this is a brand-new topic. Sorry, but I don't know where this is coming from. Now, I don't know what I am responding to. |
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@ Softaire Is that correct? >> We do not “accept it thinking that ultimately it will be for (our) own personal good.” Everyday, I personally follow the pattern set down by Christians who have lived and struggled with their trials and tribulations who have gone on before me - Especially the Christ who came to earth to show everybody by His example. He kept the Father ever on his heart as he sought to be obedient to the Father’s leading. It is of utmost importance that Christians keep in mind and focused that this world is temporary and everything related to this world is going to pass and be replaced in the end. In other words, the parents of the dead children in the Texas flood should accept it and know that ultimately it was for the best? >> Those Christian parents did not look at the deaths of their children “as the best” which could happen to their children - that’s madness! What Christians do, as I’m sure those parents did was BELIEVE by the choosing of their hearts that God knew their children personally, and that He loved them more than the parents will ever know this side of eternity. Bruce, everyday we make choices about how we’re going to REACT to troubles and mistakes, and when bad things happen. When you get cut off in traffic, do you take a deep breath to collect yourself because some butthead drives like a butthead, and you collect your wits and say, I’m going to take the high road and keep my temper. Well, Christians learn to do that every time we’re sideswiped by life and sh*t happens; we take a deep breath and collect our wits (our faith) and we choose to take the high road believing God knew that my kids were going to be killed today - but God is greater than this temporary stuff, and we’re going to choose to believe that God has our back even if we do not understand his reasoning for allowing tragedy. Day by day we’re strengthened in our spirit and our hearts to draw closer to him. By our choosing to do that. There are NO WEAK Christians - because believing Jesus in spite of what we hear, see or are told is always going to cost us something. I don’t know how many other ways I can try to describe this except by what I am and by what I do everyday to keep my relationship vibrant and real. I am not pretending to be a Christian; I am keeping ir as real as I know how. Really. |
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VF You seem to have misunderstood my intentions to be saying that I think that the dying kids was "for the best". If that is really how you interpreted my post, I apologize for writing so poorly that you misunderstood my meaning. I certainly hope this additional explanation has been helpful in clearing that up. I do NOT mean to say any deaths are for the best. I do mean to say that my understanding of Christianity regarding this explanation of tragic deaths is that Christianity looks at it as being part of God's Plan as a consolation message to the family and friends of the victim(s). In other words, the death(s) were tragic and unavoidable but, as part of being in God's Plan, ultimately the victims will be rewarded. And once again I will say that I do not personally believe God had any part in these tragedies or rewards. I do not believe that He micro-manages us as individuals to that level. |
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God doesn't have to 'micro manage' every person's individual happenstances, though he is capable of foreseeing which choices we're going to make; he lovingly knows intimately every detail of all our lives. What you're asking about here IMO presumes on your part to demanding an explanation from God for his actions and plans. This is a natural for men who make choices for themselves with God being required to explain themselves. Instead of attempting to put God on trial, speaking from a naturalistic POV, I have chosen to take him at his word as being the Source of all of life and operating with the premise that his Words are true and they are the substance of all reality. This is the humble mindset of Abraham, the Biblical patriarch of faith. Also, your questions seem to have neglected to take into consideration for the Fallen state of the world and mankind in general. Which necessarily must include the actions and plans for Satan/ Lucifer to destroy humanity. Christians 🙏 must coregeously understand that Evil is real and W/O God's grace and protection we're going to be vulnerable to Satan's interfering with God's plan for our lives. I do mean to say that my understanding of Christianity regarding this explanation of tragic deaths is that Christianity looks at it as being part of God's Plan as a consolation message to the family and friends of the victim(s). In other words, the death(s) were tragic and unavoidable but, as part of being in God's Plan, ultimately the victims will be rewarded. >> It's not only the issue with "being rewarded", but if Christians are willing to trust God's redemptive plans for our obedience turning around to be used for His own Glory! Our determining, by our choices, to be used for God's Glory are our greatest sacrifice, which we are willing to do because of our love for God's grace and mercy. No man can ever dare ask himself, 'What's in it for me?'. And once again I will say that I do not personally believe God had any part in these tragedies or rewards. I do not believe that He micro-manages us as individuals to that level. >> See, Bruce, your problem begins right here - What are you choosing to believe? Is it what your own experience and education, and what your neighbors, the world believes or will you choose to believe what God has said? There's a lot which you do not understand, but reaching the point of faith where you are willing to go BEYOND your mental faculties to the realm of believing what you can not see must be where you take your questions or you're never going to 'get it'. |
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Remedy For Hard Headedness . . . That is very true, Doug. And after we've busted our knuckles enough we even learn to do it differently sometimes, don't we? |
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NOTHING CAN STOP WHAT IS COMING "9.2.25: The WORLD will SOON UNDERSTAND, Nothing Can Stop What is COMING, Pharma, MSM, Pray!" rumble.com |
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x.com Democrats in Michigan have been creating thousands of fake jobs and then laundering that money back to themselves x.com |
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Maybe you can try posting POV's related to the content relative to current events described in my posts; You know, without trying to deflect into irrelevant or completely different spheres of what the tread is about? Thank you for your attention to this ☺️. |
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So, who's dodging facts now? |
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TO FINALLY CONFRONT CHINA? "9.3.25: Why did it take an political outsider (finally) to confront CHINA, SICK DEMS, Pray!" rumble.com |
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WE JUST SENT THE GO ORDERS ATTACK "9.4.25: TRUMP drops 17 second MEMES, Go orders, ATTACK, Shift in TACTICS, Pray!" rumble.com |
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What Bold & Courageous Presidential Leadership Look Like x.com ICE Has Busted a Massive Illegal Alien Pedophile Network in California x.com Secretary of State Marco Rubio responds to Democrats defending narcoterrorists. x.com President Trump DIAGNOSES Democrats with a DISEASE: x.com President Trump says tariffs could replace federal income tax. x.com |
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Doesn't Bode Well for Two Party Continuing You have to wonder if we're even living in the same country! Do you remember several years ago when they were attacking the federal court in Portland and the mayor said it was all good until they started attacking his home? Sure makes you wonder, doesn't it? |
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VF The Democrats have tried that again and again, and especially over the last four years, by trying to infiltrate the entire public with millions of illegal alien migrants who would skew the census and create more Democrat voter districts (and more Democrat voters) as well as outlawing voter ID requirements so that more illegal immigrants could vote (theoretically as Democrats). Democrat policies have trended Left for years but lately they have embraces ridiculous things such as gender changing surgeries for young children, outlawing parental notification of children's wishes and the issues being taught in elementary and secondary schools, men allowed in women's sports, bathrooms and locker rooms. The list goes on. |
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Spot-on run down of our political Leftist turn, Softaire! Now, where do you suppose these “ridiculous” Leftist political policies endorsed by the DNC today, where did they begin? Where, but of course, in the public schools in the 50’s - through to today. There were mostly conservative world views expressed in the schools as well as real education where students were taught real world skills necessary to write, read and do basic arithmetic computations. Self esteem was engendered as well as respect for others and those in authority. Liberal ideas were winked and tolerated to a point, but not encouraged by any measure as I recall. The National Education Administration erased all of that in short order! "The Children Got Left Behind" policypoliticalreview.com "Liberal Brainwashing in Public Schools School Indoctrination the Obama Years" enigmose.com |
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VF We find ourselves today as a result of 60 or 70 years of incremental change. A law here, a law there. Or a policy here and a policy there. A forgiveness here for a broken law there. A liberal give here for a broken rule there. A lack of accountability here for a broken trust there. A little more power here for a little favoritism there. Rules for us here and rules for you there. Little by little we have given up accountability for poor performance and disobedience of the law. We have given up morality for profit and power. Not by all, but by most. Not entirely, but by the majority. We now seem to be bucking the trend. We have an administration that says the right thing and seems to be doing the right things. Bucking the trend and righting the wrongs always will emit loud squeak's from those being pinched. Stopping the wrongs will harm those doing the wrongs. There will be objections. The louder they squeak, the more they have been doing wrong. |
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