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dmaestro
19-Aug-25, 22:52

x.com

All we need to know about the Trump/Putin relationship.
dmaestro
19-Aug-25, 22:59

Check out this video from this search, hof.mike.Trump.putin hof.mike.Trump.putin

Neville Chamberlain would be so proud.
softaire
19-Aug-25, 23:46

Apatzer
I asked the AI to compare the difference in costs to get an immigrant deported. The difference is astounding. Read this and then tell me which you think would be the better choice for America.
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The cost difference between **voluntary self-deportation via the CBP Home app** and **traditional deportation through ICE** is dramatic—both in terms of taxpayer expense and logistical complexity.

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### 🟢 CBP Home App: Voluntary Self-Deportation

**Estimated Cost to U.S. Government: ~$1,000–$1,800 per person**
This includes:

- ✈️ **Free plane ticket** arranged by DHS
- 💵 **$1,000 exit stipend** paid upon confirmed departure
- ❌ **Forgiveness of civil fines** for failure to depart
- 🛂 **No detention or court proceedings**
- 📱 Processed entirely through the CBP Home mobile app

This streamlined approach is part of DHS’s “Project Homecoming” initiative, designed to reduce enforcement costs and encourage orderly, voluntary exits.


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### 🔴 Traditional Deportation Process via ICE

**Estimated Cost to U.S. Government: $13,000–$15,000 per person**
Can escalate to **$50,000+** in complex or appealed cases. Key cost drivers include:

- 🚔 Arrest and investigation
- 🏢 Detention housing: $150–$225 per day
- ⚖️ Immigration court hearings and legal reviews
- ✈️ Charter or solo flights (up to $4,600 per person)
- 🧾 Administrative overhead and post-departure case closure

Mass deportation proposals have projected costs in the **hundreds of billions**, with significant economic ripple effects.

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This cost gap—up to **90% savings**—is why policymakers are increasingly exploring voluntary departure programs as a fiscally responsible alternative.
classica
20-Aug-25, 04:31

Israeli Official Arrested in Vegas Pedophile Sting Is Released
– And Flies Home + Police Report Bombshell
needtoknow.news

Let's agree, the source could be better but it's a starting point.

If we can momentarily discount "the official stories" left and right,
what emerges is this is this sort of "intel soup" where we have
US intel groups [the CIA is the main group that leads all the other
US intel groups], the "five eyes", Mossad, Epstein - and then we
come to Peter Thiel, transhumanist enthusiast deeply embedded
and heavily funded in classified CIA surveillance projects. Meanwhile,
Thiel and his $billions heavily contributed to JD Vance's campaigns.

Whitney Webb: Trump, JD Vance bankrolled by CIA and Mossad backed Peter Thiel
www.youtube.com

I saw an interview with Peter Thiel and he said Transexualism
does not go far enough - we need to go for more enhancements.

I don't take anything as the gospel or absolute truth - but one
thing is for sure: the public rarely gets all the information, and
observing from many points of view may provide a cleared picture.


classica
20-Aug-25, 04:43

I made this video 3 months ago. It breaks down costs
of rapid legal deportation and time frames using Grok 3.
www.youtube.com
valley_forge
20-Aug-25, 09:43

@ Classica
<< and then we
come to Peter Thiel, transhumanist enthusiast deeply embedded
and heavily funded in classified CIA surveillance projects. Meanwhile,
Thiel and his $billions heavily contributed to JD Vance's campaigns.

Whitney Webb: Trump, JD Vance bankrolled by CIA and Mossad backed Peter Thiel
www.youtube.com >>

So what that Trump and JD Vance received finanical support from Peter Thiel?!!

How does this in any way detract or bring into question the impact of Trump’s and JD Vance’s political policies on behalf of the American people?

In my POV it’s interesting and curious that Thiel is supporting Trump rather than the DNC.

Since there are only two political parties which Americans can support or contribute financial support for which side are you on, Classica?
classica
20-Aug-25, 11:12

Once upon a time, long long ago - Journalism
strove to be impartial and the report the news in
an unbiased manner - chasing the truth wherever
it may lie, to observe and report leaving no stone
unturned.

Here's six minutes on the Whitney Webb story.
www.youtube.com

valley_forge
20-Aug-25, 11:19

In response to Classica's post @ 20-Aug-25, 11:12

I'm sorry if you have to point me to an outside talking head rather than sharing your own thoughts 🧐

This makes me think questionable thoughts . . .

Maybe you can share with me later and remove all these questionable thoughts.

Maybe . . .
classica
20-Aug-25, 11:24

I created that video from scratch using
several AI engines.
classica
20-Aug-25, 11:28

This is the icon lady used
creator.nightcafe.studio

No outside talking head...
valley_forge
20-Aug-25, 11:34

@ Classica
While I deeply appreciate and respect you and your YouTube platform for disseminating opinions and views with a creative flare, nonetheless, there are irreplaceable nuances from the writing medium which can not be duplicated adequately by a heartless computer chip IMHO.

"What would it mean for AI to have a soul?"

www.bbc.com

"People Are Losing Loved Ones to AI-Fueled Spiritual Fantasies"

www.rollingstone.com
classica
20-Aug-25, 11:52

They said that about automobiles.
So far 4M have paid they ultimate price
for driving in the US - yet there's no
talk of not driving. AI is a tool that does
stuff - it is not a human substitute.

The print media is a bit antiquated.
[About 585 years old. Johannes Gutenberg
invented the printing press around 1440.]

Today, the tech exists to move beyond print.
I'm just using that tech.

classica
20-Aug-25, 12:22

Deleted by classica on 20-Aug-25, 12:23.
classica
20-Aug-25, 12:24

link corrected
This is why I made the Webb analysis
The debt crisis: www.youtube.com

We are on the event horizon of a full on
financial disaster. As such, it is best to keep
one's eyes on the horizon.

Meanwhile, DJT is doing a phenomenal job.
Too many wins to mention. The best is yet to come.
valley_forge
20-Aug-25, 12:32

When Comparing 'Apples Oranges' Don't Include Pipe Wrenchs
While I'm impressed with how AI can augment human protection and reduce the amount of tedious calculations

The automobile was similar to the discovery and usefulness of fire, which soon bacame routine for everyone using it

AI, on the other hand, is similar to arming people with machine guns, unless others are so equipped it's never going to be a "fair fight"

I don't think players will be allowed to use AI to play Scrabble

If you're not going to speak to me directly, just say so, and we'll change the subject, okay?
classica
20-Aug-25, 12:38

Sorry to be intimidating - I've been on
Bulletin boards since before the internet [dial up].

BTW you have been talking to me, the human.
valley_forge
20-Aug-25, 12:40

Using God's Guidance Always Leads to Great Results!
<< Meanwhile, DJT is doing a phenomenal job.
Too many wins to mention. The best is yet to come.>>

We're never going to hear anything from the American MSM, and unfortunately not even the American Church, about the difference between DJT and the DNC being the good Providence of God, but at the root of what he (Trump) is doing are the prayers of Christians 🙏 who believe in the covenants of the Puritans and the Pilgrims.

This is a spiritual war between good and evil.
classica
20-Aug-25, 13:13

"This is a spiritual war between good and evil."

Agreed. My concern is that the tools used to
vanquish the evil now may later be used on
behalf of those perpetuating the evil to create
a dystopian future Orwell warned of. It seems
such a future potential may slip under the radar
leading to a situation that is extremely difficult
or impossible to reverse.

[example: the J6 prisoners.]
valley_forge
20-Aug-25, 13:20

<< It seems
such a future potential may slip under the radar
leading to a situation that is extremely difficult
or impossible to reverse.

[example: the J6 prisoners.] >>

There's going to be one great difference, this time, IMO.

The 'J6' prisoners' this time are going to be those individuals involved in the fake Russia Russia Hoax who will be having to answer for their seditious actions!

There's no going back after the Deep State's eliminated and dealt with.
classica
20-Aug-25, 13:42

Tyrus: This is all 'a set-up'
youtu.be

His observations on Gutfeld about Bill Clinton
- looking so old because he has to sleep with
one eye open around Hilary - was gold.
valley_forge
20-Aug-25, 13:51

Key Question For Journalists
Who's going to benefit from your report?
classica
20-Aug-25, 13:54

Hopefully, you are.

Whether you agree with me or not,
it shows how I sort content by probabilities.
valley_forge
20-Aug-25, 14:03

"Sorting Probabilities"
"Hopefully, you are.

Whether you agree with me or not,
it shows how I sort content by probabilities."

Oh, I'm definitely checking out your records.

You're not one of those who attacks and attacks W/O substance!
I'm sorry for for demanding your 'source':

It's just that sources are a lot like motives, aren't they?
classica
20-Aug-25, 14:15

The Tyrus discussion was good on this.
He said Biden was interviewed by an MSM outlet,
and he fell asleep - but that was never mentioned.

News and journalism have been downgraded to
entertainment shows. Everything is a point of view,
now more than ever, and information overload is
the new order of the day. I find Grok does a good
job of fact checking, although garbage in garbage out
still happens with MSM legacy sources. It's free.
classica
20-Aug-25, 14:23

This was the source material from Grok that
I gave to NotebookLM
x.com

I had already made two transcripts from Notebooklm
that were made using just the original video transcript.

It's a ton of data from Grok, that Notebook trimmed
down to six minutes. The video saves the viewer's time.
apatzer
20-Aug-25, 19:53

softaire
I completely agree with the self deportation program and the money it saves. one side hand's them money and it's genius, the other side hand's them far less for similar reasons and it's criminal and unsustainable.
classica
21-Aug-25, 03:50

Self Deportation is a genius move AI did not see in advance.
dmaestro
21-Aug-25, 09:06

www.yahoo.com

LMAO along with Putin.
softaire
21-Aug-25, 09:18

If Russia had not started the war and had not wasted all that money on bombs and bullets, they could have invested it in all those people who would still be alive. Russia could have modernized their economy into a more capitalistic entity like China and entered back into the world economy.

They probably would have grown their economy be 10% and not been a one-product (oil), 3rd world country.
dmaestro
21-Aug-25, 09:27

www.foxnews.com

Not only was Trump’s stupid plan to pacify Putin to split Russia and China a bust but now he’s turned India the most populated and growing economic powertowards them as well as Brazil. And Putinist Gabbard just gutted the intelligence community. You should realize Trump didn’t really write Art of the Deal. As they say: Whom God would destroy he first makes mad. Americam arrogance will end in isolation and failure. It’s fated. So be it!  
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