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The Continued War On (Women) the Family by the Left (PT 2)
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inhis_service 06-Jul-19, 11:59 |
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stalhandske 08-Jul-19, 22:47 |
Genders There are only Two Genders; The Creator of the Universe says so!> <For there is s God in Heaven, And he was not confused about what body He placed which parts!> Of course there are only two major genders, man and woman. But there are also developmental "mistakes" which are entirely understandable from a biological standpoint and from biochemical knowledge. Should we condemn those human individuals for what they are, or should we accept them as part of our common humanity? And do our best not to destroy their lives! <I probably shouldn't call them dumb asses> The only one worthy of that epithet is YOU! |
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stalhandske 09-Jul-19, 06:47 |
THUMPER: Please, consider this These two passages in IHS' post above are mean and twisted insults against innocent human beings, who have happened (without their own choice) to be somewhat different from the majority population. I think such stuff should not be allowed in a GK club. Yes, I know what the 1st Amendment states, but in my humble opinion this is way over the bar. <Just like Adam, they have chosen to listen to the twisted one over You O God, so You have had no choice but to give them over to their vile affections and degrading passions. For many women have exchanged their natural function for an unnatural and abnormal one!> <And men also have turned from natural relations with women and are set ablaze with lust for one another—men committing shameful acts with men and suffering in their own bodies and personalities the inevitable consequences and penalty of their wrong-doing!> |
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dmaestro 09-Jul-19, 08:50 |
Stahl iamtheway.org As you know I am a cult watcher and anti-cultist. IHS is a follower of Nesbit. Nesbit is a cult leader, self claimed “Prophet” and part of a group of self appointed new age channeling Tribe Quantum warriors associated with the “Apostle” Chosa group attempting what they claim is “spiritual” warfare and ritually empowered curses against “enemies”. Basically these leaders are “Christian” sorcerers. In league with darkness IMO. Once you understand where this doctrine is coming from you realize where discussions will always end up. Good luck with getting anyone to reign in the gay bashing and cultic arrogance here. Having exposed the cult enough I am done. |
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thumper . . . As a matter of political policies directly aimed at defeating the Conservative/ Judeo-Christian based Republicans in America today, the Leftist have taken to endorsing/ "protecting the rights" within the LGBT+ groups. Without any regard for the social/ economic impact which "recognizing" and "protecting the rights" of the LGBT+ would have on the other 95 PERCENT of our citizens! Marxism has long used this tactic with tremendous success as we all have witnessed. "AFTAH: Is CPAC Conservative When It Bans Anti-Gay-Agenda Exhibitors While Welcoming LGBT Activists?" americansfortruth.com "Exposing the Global Effort behind the Homosexual Agenda" freedomoutpost.com << These two passages in IHS' post above are mean and twisted insults against innocent human beings, who have happened (without their own choice) to be somewhat different from the majority population. I think such stuff should not be allowed in a GK club. Yes, I know what the 1st Amendment states, but in my humble opinion this is way over the bar. >> Stalhandske appears uninformed about the true undercurrents driving American politics today. IHS is not trying to be "mean", hurling "twisted insults" against a minority group because of any preference for my particular political beliefs. Each of my posts are driven by POLITICAL CONCERNS only. |
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About James Nesbit Here is an example of what James Nesbit sounds like when he preaches. I have personally been in a church when James Nesbit was asked to share with the congregation. I've heard better, but I've certainly heard much worse! The important thing to note is James preaches and teaches the Bible. James Nesbit is better known for his beautiful "prophetic art". You may see some of his work here. jnesbit.com Again, as you may see for yourself, DM does not know what he's talking about. |
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Another Instance In the War Against the American Family After a little reflection it should go here. The overall crux of this story strikes at the First Amendment and the Christian family IMO. "California Christian School Faces Closure for Not Allowing Same-Sex Relationships" A private Christian boarding school in Northern California may be forced to shut its doors after the state filed a lawsuit to close the facility, a move that defenders of the school say is ideologically motivated. River View Christian Academy (RVCA), a school in Shasta County for troubled teens, is run by the nonprofit Teen Rescue; the school has been in operation since 1993. On Jan. 18, RVCA was the scene of a raid by California Highway Patrol officers, along with canine units and social workers. The state allegedly had evidence that school staff were storing guns and illegal drugs. Nothing was found. "The State Department of Social Services relied upon an article from a left-wing tabloid from 10 years ago that accused the school of outrageous things that were simply not true,” Brad Dacus, founder of the Pacific Justice Institute, a legal defense group that is representing RVCA, told The Epoch Times. "And instead of sending an investigator to look into the matter, or simply ignoring it like they should have, the state sent in 16 state troopers, two canine units, and 17 social workers in a raid to examine everything and everyone. It was very inhumane, not only for the staff, but also for the students.” The controversy surrounding RVCA began in 2018, when BuzzFeed News published an article detailing allegations made against the school by former students and staff members. "RVCA does not conduct conversion therapy. In fact, we do not provide any kind of therapy. We also do not give punishment for sexual preference,” the school’s website states. The school says that in order to keep students focused on education, no sexual relationships between students, whether they are same-sex or not, are allowed. River View has always operated as a private school, filing an annual affidavit with the California Department of Education. However, state attorneys argued that because of recent legislation, and because the school controls every aspect of student’s lives, and requirements for graduation are based on behavior and not academics, the school must file as a community care facility. School officials have refused, saying that to follow the requirements laid out for a community care facility, the school would have to give up its religious beliefs. Consequently, the state attorney’s office filed a lawsuit, seeking to shut down RVCA. "This requirement effectively guts the ability for this school to be a Christian boarding school by compelling them to comply with the state regulatory mandates allowing students to engage in sexual relationships with the same sex and opposite sex without any interference by the school,” Dacus said. “This also would allow students to engage in all kinds of spiritual exploration, irrespective of the fact that this is a Christian boarding school [and the] parents put their kids there for that reason.” www.google.com |
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dmaestro 09-Jul-19, 15:51 |
These evangelical “correction camps” are in fact abusive and religion pushing as unwilling victims have stated and the State SHOULD explore and employ every legal means of regulating and shutting them down. As if the staff of these “camps” can be trusted. Victims should file a class action lawsuit and bankrupt this “camp”. Religious freedom here is just a pretext and does not include the right to destroy others lives in the name of religion. We have an absolute right of freedom FROM religion in this country. No one old enough to have their opinion given weight should be compelled to submit to such abuse under the guise of religion. |
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On America’s birthday, it is appropriate to be thankful and reflect on how we can guard against the suppression of religious freedom, before it is too late. More than 200 years ago, the young United States was learning to walk in its freshly won freedom and the Constitution born of it. Our experiment in self-governance, based on the idea that our Creator endowed all of us with certain inalienable rights as reflected in our Declaration of Independence, was unique in the history of the world. Among these rights—which we recognize are not given by government but granted by God—is our right to religious freedom. Its importance is signified by the fact that it precedes all the other rights listed in the amendments to our Constitution. In our early years, imperfect to be sure, as a nation we nevertheless persisted and advanced to embrace the ideal of religious freedom articulated in the First Amendment to our Constitution. That we are still governed by the same Constitution after more than 200 years is itself a miracle, and speaks to the vigilance Americans have exercised and must continue to exercise to guard our freedom. YES. THE HOSTILITY TO RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS IS GROWING From militant atheist hostility to the presence of religious symbols in public and expressions of religious belief by government actors, to government hostility to religious beliefs regarding sexuality, the overall climate for the religious believer is one of apprehension at best. Indeed, some have lost their jobs or been financially penalized due to their beliefs—right here in the United States. thefederalist.com "Regular Christians Are No Longer Welcome in American Culture" time.com "Issues Of Freedom : Restrictions on Individual liberties" UNDERSTANDING THE RIGHT TO FREEDOM Restrictions on individual liberties These liberties, recognized as belonging to both adults and children, are commonly known as fundamental rights—that is to say, rights which the population is entitled to fully enjoy without government intrusion. Nevertheless, the proper exercise of these liberties, taken in conjunction with the need for public order, national security, the preservation of moral values, as well as respect for the rights of one’s fellowman—all of this necessarily entails that some restrictions be placed upon these liberties. Only the freedom of THOUGHT CONSCIENCE AND OPINION are subject to no real restriction. Each and every person is free to think what he or she likes without fear of government interference so long as his or her opinions remain private. Freedom of expression is limited, most notably as it pertains to the violation of moral values and to the transmission of messages that incite hatred and violence (racism, discrimination, etc.) Access to information is an important aspect of the right to the free exchange of ideas and information. Today, it is important that this right is guaranteed to children, albeit in a manner that protects them from those ideas and information that could have a nefarious effect on their psychological development. New communication tools, the disappearance of taboos and the spread of information which lay bare the reality and atrocities of the world for all to see, prompt young people to adopt extreme forms of behavior. It is thus necessary to limit and filter such information and to offer young people those kinds of information that are at once entertaining and useful to their development. Freedom of religion is not an unlimited right and can be restricted to the extent that its practitioners constitute a threat to the public order and to the rights of others. So long as this is not the case, one’s choice of religion should not be subject to restriction. www.humanium.org |
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stalhandske 09-Jul-19, 20:59 |
<Just like Adam, they have chosen to listen to the twisted one over You O God, so You have had no choice but to give them over to their vile affections and degrading passions. For many women have exchanged their natural function for an unnatural and abnormal one!> <And men also have turned from natural relations with women and are set ablaze with lust for one another—men committing shameful acts with men and suffering in their own bodies and personalities the inevitable consequences and penalty of their wrong-doing!> Such derogative and deeply insulting words about some of the humanity's minorities can only be explained if the one in whose service they are uttered is the Devil himself. |
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dmaestro 09-Jul-19, 22:42 |
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False Accusations as Exemplified by Marxist/ Leftist Above LaVeyan Satanists embrace the original etymological meaning of the word "Satan" (Hebrew: שָּׂטָן satan, meaning "adversary"). According to Peter H. Gilmore, "The Church of Satan has chosen Satan as its primary symbol because in Hebrew it means adversary, opposer, one to accuse or question. www.google.com Throughout Church history Christians have always been falsely accused as a tactic to attack us. The reality, however, when comparing Christian schools with public schools show that Christian schools invariably are superior. "Study: Religious Schools Perform Better Than Public, Charter Schools" www.christianpost.com "Apples and oranges: comparing private and public school test scores" www.greatschools.org With the witch-hunting mentality from the Left ever ready to discredit Christian based facilities (As they have done in the story from The Epoch Times article), Christian facilities can not afford any bad behavior to happen. The following links provide examples of their very high standards. "Christian Boarding Schools For Troubled Teens From Indiana" www.mytroubledteen.com "Christian Boarding School for Troubled Girls" www.clearviewhorizon.com "Agape Boarding School" agapeboardingschool.org Teen Challenge is a nationally recognized Christian/ Bible based program which has used exclusively a Christian and Bible based program to inderdic in the lives of prostitutes, addicted drug users and alcoholics for over 30 years. Proving to the unbelieving and skeptical world the Truth of Christ's Gospel. |
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stalhandske 10-Jul-19, 01:24 |
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stalhandske 10-Jul-19, 01:27 |
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<< attacks on homosexuals... >> In none of my posts have I directly slandered or spoken ill of homosexuality. I am merely reporting documented evidence regarding political maneuverings as the Homosexual Agenda changes our American society. But now that DM has once again endeavored to SKEWER the facts, I will document the real FAKE hate speech agenda which is taking place. "What is Hate Speech?" carm.org Are Christians Guilty of Hate Speech?" www.gotquestions.org |
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stalhandske . . . Your last two posts would tend to discredit your assertions IMO. Just saying . . . |
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stalhandske 10-Jul-19, 02:06 |
I have some solid education and also experience over 74 years. I hope that I have not over-expressed that anywhere. But I have had enough of people such as you, who represent attack and hatred against a community of people, quite innocent of any wrong-doing, and often more loving than the rest of us put together. Just because of blind belief in some dubious texts thousands of years old. If I believed in God, I would be quite certain that you are unknowingly guided by Satan. In HIS service, indeed! |
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dmaestro 10-Jul-19, 07:23 |
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Stal Instead of doubling down and getting further entrenched I would like to see this as an opportunity to find common ground somewhere in between. At least find a way to be cordial with each other. We have far more in common than not. |
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dmaestro 10-Jul-19, 09:29 |
Thumper So you won’t have that rationale anymore. I don’t care what you delete of mine or whatever just clean up the IHS mess. |
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DM Secondly, neither you or IHS personally are relevant to my rationale. My rationale is not a respecter of persons. My rationale is to allow an environment where opposing views can be expressed. We all have passion and it's my wish that we can learn some self control and maybe just a little tact when talking with someone who disagrees with us. |
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stalhandske 10-Jul-19, 10:35 |
Thumper Your "defense" based on what DM has posted here does not hold. We are talking about demonising a minority group of society using erroneous statements such as - for example - that homosexuals have themselves chosen their tendency. I repeat, it is exactly the same offense as to demonise black people in the same way! DM has done nothing of the kind that I know of. |
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dmaestro 10-Jul-19, 10:49 |
When I am no longer an excuse let’s see what you do. m.gameknot.com Let me remind you what an actual civil dialogue on a controversy looks like when you don’t have extremists driving the agenda train. |
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dmaestro 10-Jul-19, 12:11 |
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DM/Stal With that in mine I will ask IHS to tone down the sermonizing for the sake of honest dialogue. If you want to talk with people then fine, go for it. If you want to talk at people then I must say you're not achieving any objective beyond arguing. Talking louder and longer doesn't mean better. I take full responsibility for the lack of dialogue lately. Please forgive the lack of oversight. Being busy elsewhere is no excuse. |
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stalhandske 10-Jul-19, 22:49 |
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We Were Here First Pointing out that both DM. and Stalhandske have purposely side stepped the political aspects of this issue, and PURPOSELY made it an issue of "rights denied" the LGBT+ TINY community. And both DM and Stalhandske have ignored documentation showing that Marxist/ Communists, who care nothing about any "rights" (Except to use out nation's laws of "equal protection" against America). In replacing the Conservative/ Judeo-Christian heritage which has held preeminent sway before this Agenda, the political end-game or goal of making America a Socialist will have all but been realized. I DARE DM or Stalhandske to find ANY PREJUDICIAL remarks against the LBGT+ community in this post. |
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thumper . . . There might be more chance with Stalhandske, as he at least is willing to listen and tries to understand another's view. If you need to rev evidence of my assertions regarding the political policies of the LGBT + Agenda I shall provide them. As a last resort, I will concede the inevitable loss of all my religious freedoms - as this loss IS INEVITABLE regardless of what we few Christians do or say anymore as you can surely see. Just remove me from the club. I'll understand. |
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stalhandske 11-Jul-19, 03:30 |
IHS It also has nothing to do with what political and/or religious views may be taken by LGBT+ people; I think it is wrong to condemn them as a group because of some isolated examples. The political aspects of all of this are irrelevant. No compromise is forced from American Christians either - again a strange idea akin to the numerous conspiracy theories. The point, in all its simplicity, is this: LGBT+ people are not that out of some personal choice or preference, just as little as left-handed people would have chosen that minority position. There are indeed two main genders only in biology, including humankind. But, having said that, it must be accepted that there are naturally occurring aberrations/exceptions from the general rule, the major reasons of which are developmental/physiological, obviously often strongly linked to neurology and psychology. The all-important point I am trying to convince you about is that these aberrations are not something these people have chosen in order to amuse themselves or the like. Instead, they are a yoke for these people mostly because of the attitudes against them from the surroundings. This is why we should accept these people as part of the human family, feel compassion for them, and love, too. To call their situation a sin is incredibly stupid, and one of those things in the holy Bible that should not be there! And I have told you why it is very likely that there must be some misunderstandings in this Holy Book. |
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dmaestro 11-Jul-19, 08:35 |
Having failed at gay conversion experiments and realizing a regular marriage would be dishonest the alternative of life long celibacy is the best offer fundamentalists have. Yet how many heterosexuals can be happy with celibacy themselves? This whole gay agenda thing is mischaracterizing reaction to societal disapproval. Gays are found on all parts of the political spectrum and in all religions. We no longer live in an era when having as many children as possible is needed for survival of the clan. As an ally aware of their struggles I don’t encourage a gay lifestyle I choose to be compassionate to a burden I do not have and would not want. And if they choose to be religious but they still need to marry another gay rather than burn it’s still better for humanity and up to God, not the self righteous who have their own issues. It’s always easy to minimize and criticize the burdens of others one does not have and attribute motives to it. Compassion is better. |
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