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thumper 27-Aug-19, 16:35	Dumbest Liberal Gun Quotes www.youtube.com Any they say these things with all conviction and seriousness, presuming to lecture others.
thumper 27-Aug-19, 16:43	To my ears these people sound like total and complete idiots. And they make laws?? God help us.
thumper 27-Aug-19, 16:48	I'm actually tempted to go through each and every one of these idiotic statements and flay it.
pawntificator 27-Aug-19, 16:54	This guy already did many of them. www.youtube.com
thumper 27-Aug-19, 16:55	I especially liked the guy arguing for a bill to eliminate muzzleloaders because they may be used in a mass shooting some day.
pawntificator 27-Aug-19, 16:56	Nobody pay attention to the man approaching the crowd with 50 muzzleloaders.
thumper 27-Aug-19, 17:06	Isityou Quick! What rifle is on the wall behind him? Bonus questions: What caliber is it and what feeding/cycling system does it use? Is it (gasp!) an assault rifle?
pawntificator 27-Aug-19, 17:08	I'm not a gun aficionado but it looks like a hunting rifle. I'm guessing a Remington. Maybe a 434 and a single shot slide action. It's only an assault rifle if you put a pistol grip on it. I pulled most of those answers out of thin air. I'd be interested to know the actual answers.
pawntificator 27-Aug-19, 17:10	Actually, that barrel looks pretty small. It might be a 22
thumper 27-Aug-19, 17:36	Isityou It's actually a Springfield Armory M1 Garand. It was the main battle rifle of the US military from 1936-1959. It fires a 168gr 30 caliber projectile (.30-06 (7.62x63mm)) using a gas operated rotating bolt system (semi-auto) and feeds from a removable 8 round En bloc clip. Rate of fire is 40-50 rounds per min (including reloads). General George S. Patton called it "the greatest battle implement ever devised".
pawntificator 27-Aug-19, 17:42	I heard him mention the Garand somewhere around the 22 minute mark. Thanks for the answer, though. What's the feeding system called when you squeeze bullets into a long spring-loaded tube that pushes bullets toward the chamber and then you have to cycle the slide bolt to get the bullet to pop up? I used to have a .22 that loaded that way. It was fun. Forgive me, I love guns, but I don't have any or know much about them. (lost them all in a boating accident)
pawntificator 27-Aug-19, 17:46	Wait, it might have actually been a fully semi-automatic .22 because I seem to remember it automatically popping in there. I literally got PTSD from the loud bangs when shooting that weapon. www.youtube.com
thumper 27-Aug-19, 17:49	www.bing.com That would be a slide action (pump action), tube fed rifle. Basically the same action as a pump action shotgun.
thumper 27-Aug-19, 18:14	Isityou A lot of what's said on that video you linked is obvious BS. Lieutenant General Hertling looked like a loose sloppy novice while shooting the AR. He has maybe fired an M4 or M16 a few times just to say he did but obviously has no skill or training. An AR15 and an M4 are not high powered rifles. They're low powered, low recoil rifles that those two limp noodle dudes tried to make look powerful. They're basically .22s! They both fire a .223cal/5.56x45mm round with a bullet weight of 35 to 85 grains. The Garand on his wall (which is a powerful rifle) fires a .308cal/7.62x63mm, 168gr bullet.
pawntificator 27-Aug-19, 18:21	I know, I was making a joke about the "full semi-automatic" line that the general said. Furthermore, either in that video or another one a reporter talked about his PTSD from shooting the gun. ... It was a different guy..and it looks like they took the video down www.nydailynews.com
pawntificator 27-Aug-19, 19:26	The 13 rules of gunfighting i.redd.it
thumper 27-Aug-19, 19:42	PTSD!? Are you shitting me? For shooting several rounds out of a .223? So that's a beta male? I don't see any of those around here.
thumper 27-Aug-19, 20:54	What does it take for dictatorship or tyranny to succeed? Answer: Control the press and disarm the public. Interestingly enough, those are the first two amendments to our constitution. They have the first and are working on the second.
pawntificator 28-Aug-19, 19:47	Wait, I just realized that dmaestro and zorro are correct. Trump is a fascist dictator and we also need to give up the 2nd amendment quick! i.redd.it
thumper 09-Sep-19, 09:09	www.youtube.com Green Beret combat vet and Delegate Nick Freitas' 2nd Amendment Speech on Floor of Virginia House of Delegates 3-5-2018.
zorroloco 09-Sep-19, 09:29	Guns don’t kill people Bullets kill people. We don’t need gun control, but bullet control. A bullet costs $5,000, there won’t be any innocent bystanders killed. And if someone gets shot, you KNOW they deserved it. And the second amendment only talks about arms, not bullets. Everyone is happy! Props to Chris Rock m.youtube.com (Profanity alert)
thumper 09-Sep-19, 09:33	If bullets cost $5,000 each, I'm suddenly a very rich man.
zorroloco 09-Sep-19, 09:39	Thumper I’m ok with that. You deserve to be rich, far more than most of those rich bastards
inhis_service 09-Sep-19, 09:54	An American History Lesson . . . How much of American history specifically discusses the importance – vital importance, I would add – which “the right to bear arms” had in the founding of our country? The other day I seen an article in The Epoch Times titled “In US History, the Right to Arms is Associated with Liberty, Equality: Gun Control Isn’t” What I thought! What could this be about?! A well written expose on the importance and development of Early America as the Colonists learned (sometimes the hard way!) how to make the best use of firearms. Here are a couple cut/ pastes from that article. “Throughout U.S. history, the right to bear arms has been associated with liberty and legal equality, and gun control with the opposite.” “By contrast, gun rights in America were solidly established before 1619—indeed, before the first colonists landed at Jamestown. When the Virginia colonists set sail from England in 1606, they brought with them the first express written guarantee of arms rights in the English-speaking world, the Virginia Company charter granted earlier that year by England’s King James I.” “The American colonists’ political association with the English king ended when the king stopped adhering to those principles. In October 1774, King George II embargoed the shipment of firearms or gunpowder to the American colonies and ordered royal governors to begin confiscating arms and ammunition. Coercive disarmament set off the American Revolution, when confiscation was met with armed resistance at Lexington and Concord, in Massachusetts, on April 19, 1775.” The article touches on several other points of interest. Such as it were the American Indians who first showed the Colonists the importance of marksmanship, and that slave owners used control as a means to "keep ‘em down". Informative and pertinent to the “gun control debate” now raging. www.theepochtimes.com
zorroloco 09-Sep-19, 10:00	Ihs Yup. I have no problem with the right to bear muskets and single shot pistols. I doubt the founders envisaged the ability to kill 50 and wound 400 in 5 minutes as a ‘human right.’
thumper 09-Sep-19, 10:10	You're not being consistent Z. I notice you're not writing with a quill and inkwell.
zorroloco 09-Sep-19, 10:20	Thumper I tried, but it’s hard to post. And when writing on my phone kills 21 kids in a few moments, I’ll stop doing it.
anomalocaris 09-Sep-19, 10:22	I hate that argument. Who has EVER said killing and wounded the innocent is a human right? Point me to that quote, point me to the idea, point me to anyone that thinks that way. Take the worst examples of something and use it as an argument? Not good. Jeff, do you like to smoke? I can give you lots of horror stories about drugs and why you should not do them. They have caused a lot of people to do a lot of bad things. Matter of fact, do you want to total up drug related deaths vs. gun deaths? Of course, I am going to lump you in with the worst of the worst, after all. Drugs is drugs.
inhis_service 09-Sep-19, 10:28	<< Yup. I have no problem with the right to bear muskets and single shot pistols >> The King of England was fine with the Colonials having arms - the same kind his soldiers had - until we began to resist the tyranny. Bet the Tories said the same thing about the muskets and single shots - you know those Colonials who were okay with tyranny? If you do not want to defend yourself you have that Right. But where do you get off telling me I can't defend myself?!
pawntificator 09-Sep-19, 10:34	For some reason the left wants government to make laws and have more power to enforce those laws. When a normal person doesn't like something they avoid doing it. When a CTRL-Leftist doesn't like something they demand that nobody have the right to do it.
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