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classica
20-Jul-25, 01:23

RussiaGate 2016
The wheels of Justice grind slowly.
www.breitbart.com

Not my favorite news outlet, but they have the story.
The receipts are there and criminal referrals have been delivered.
DJT didn't like the idea of arresting USA leaders [e.g. Hilary],
until he, himself, was arrested. Lock them all up!
victoriasas
20-Jul-25, 06:03

I’m glad President Trump kept her (Tulsi Gabbard) on after her less-than-flattering assessment of the damage done to Iran’s nuclear facilities from the U.S.’ bombing campaign. I’ve been an admirer of hers for years.
valley_forge
21-Jul-25, 10:00

It Appears Classica Sees the Hammer Is Finally Gona' Fall!
READY TO HOLD . .

ARE
YOU
READY?

. . the political ELITE [protected] ACCOUNTABLE

"7.21.25: TREASON, Obama, First ARREST will VERIFY action, YOU ARE READY, Pray!"

rumble.com

valley_forge
21-Jul-25, 10:18

Meme; The Meeting That Changed Everything . . .
And Which Will Seal Obama's Fate (Saving The Republic!)

x.com
valley_forge
21-Jul-25, 10:39

"Obama admin 'manufactured' intelligence to create 2016 Russian election interference narrative, documents show"

'There was a treasonous conspiracy in 2016 committed by officials at the highest level of our government," Gabbard said
July 18, 2025

EXCLUSIVE: The Obama administration "manufactured and politicized intelligence" (1) to create the narrative that Russia was attempting to influence the 2016 presidential election, despite information from the intelligence
community stating otherwise, Fox News Digital has learned.

(1) www.foxnews.com

www.foxnews.com


valley_forge
21-Jul-25, 12:36

Calling A Spade A Spade!
MSM Covers Obama Treason

The claim that the mainstream media (MSM) covered for alleged treasonous actions by the Obama administration against Donald Trump is rooted in the release of documents by Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard. These documents suggest that the MSM acted as a propaganda arm of the intelligence community (IC), participating in a coordinated effort to push disinformation as part of a plot to undermine Trump's presidency.
According to Gabbard, the MSM knowingly promoted a false narrative about Russian interference in the 2016 election, which was later described as a "hoax," to justify efforts to remove Trump from office and override the will of the electorate.

A CIA report also supports the idea that the Obama administration, particularly intelligence officials like John Brennan, James Clapper, and James Comey, orchestrated an operation to frame Trump as a Russian asset. This involved manipulating intelligence assessments, sidelining professional analysts, and excluding most intelligence agencies from the process to ensure a predetermined outcome.
The report highlights "multiple procedural anomalies" that compromised the credibility of the Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA), including rushed timelines, selective inclusion of agencies, and media leaks that influenced analysts.

Gabbard further alleges that the Obama administration engaged in a "treasonous conspiracy" by ignoring evidence that Russia could not manipulate the actual vote count in the 2016 election. Despite this, the administration promoted the opposite narrative, contributing to what Trump and his allies have called the "Russia hoax".
These documents, released by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), suggest that the administration sought to create a false impression of Russian interference to justify actions against Trump.

These allegations imply that the MSM played a role in amplifying a narrative based on questionable intelligence, thereby supporting the broader effort to delegitimize Trump's presidency. However, it is important to note that these claims are based on interpretations of declassified documents and remain subject to debate.
dmaestro
21-Jul-25, 13:27

www.belfercenter.org

Tulsi is a well known Putinist. So of course her goal is to deny Russia had influence on Trump and worked to defeat HRC, which it obviously did, and blame Obama instead. That is why Trump picked her.

Obama is to blame in a way for selling the unity and hope nonsense there is “not a liberal America and a conservative America; there is the United States of America.” Even in 2004 studies showed otherwise. Today it’s obvious: www.al.com. But the attempt to prosecute Trump’s enemies hopefully will lead to the end of the delusion and of America as it was.
classica
21-Jul-25, 13:29

It appears barry gave the orders and brennan quarterbacked.
And the name was Crossfire Hurricane.
Today Trump is carrying out Operation Crossfire Boomerang.

Meanwhile shifty is in the doghouse for mortgage fraud.
As is Letitia James.
valley_forge
21-Jul-25, 13:36

Expect to see and hear many more such Progressive Leftist opinion pieces such as DM post @ 21-Jul-25, 13:27 has posted.

The MSM also will be posting undocumented counter narratvie POV's in the days ahead before Obama is indicted and prosecuted.
valley_forge
21-Jul-25, 13:37

By James Woods
A nation can survive its fools, but it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formitable, for he carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely. He rots the soul of the nation.

Obama
classica
21-Jul-25, 13:41

Everyday I ask Grok what % chance of Mamdani being Mayor.
Consistently, day after day it's 70% at the betting sites.
NYC host 8 World Cup Games and 250 yr July 4 celebrations next year.
classica
21-Jul-25, 13:54

RussiaGate on Fox [in the past hour]
www.youtube.com
classica
21-Jul-25, 14:08

@dmaestro
Interesting site.
www.al.com

They seem to paint political instability as a bad thing.
I don't agree. Without the conflict, progress stalls.
The Biden/Trump dynamic has supercharged the base on both sides.
It's the push pull that moves us forward.
valley_forge
21-Jul-25, 19:38

@ Classica
“The Biden/Trump dynamic”

With the obvious mental decline/ cognitive defieciencies which Biden had IMO it is counterproductive to disregard this subterfuge of the political reality of American politics. Especially when you couple that with the MSM dupilicity during the entire time Bide was ostensibly Commander in Cheif. Who exactly was controlling the DNC White House during this time?

Would you, please, comment on this?
classica
22-Jul-25, 01:00

Personally, I believe there is very much the public does not know.
Could it be that Biden died years ago and was replaced by his brother.
Could it be that Hillary was also replaced, after a military tribunal for espionage.

Whether these speculations are correct or not, there are aspects of
the government that need improvement. Without bad actors, these
flaws would not come into sharp focus. The progress comes when we
fix the flaws.
valley_forge
22-Jul-25, 07:47

"No One Is Above the Law"
<< Without bad actors, these
flaws would not come into sharp focus. The progress comes when we
fix the flaws. >>

This is a great point!

The other day I happened upon a YouTube video by Glenn Beck. There are not many broadcastors who I respect, and I will go so far to say trust.

Anyway, his video was on the Jeffrey Epstein bruhaha in the media because President Trump and A G Pam Bondi's ping pong handling for releasing the "files".

On his video he made a great point which is related to your comments above; But his POV stressed the American Gov't will not have any credibility unless they come clean concerning "the bad actors", as you have called them.

The credibility of our National Elections, as well as the credibility of the American politics are at stake (IMO)!

Related to this credibility issue, of course, IMO again, are those "managing" the American MSM. How can we ever move forward W/O bringing these issues out into the light of day?

PS; Glenn Beck made a comment on the Epstein Files which I agree with. These files "have so many fingerprints" on them they're now completely corrupted and will never stand up in a court of law.
classica
22-Jul-25, 10:46

It seems there is a large unknown organization involved
in child trafficking. Where else did 300k kids go missing?
Epstein appears to be associated with this group but not
the main player. While Epstein is of interest, he is old news.
The real targets are still being hunted.
thumper
22-Jul-25, 11:25

I know of a few guys (all former military and LE) who hunt child traffickers. Needless to say they don't read any Miranda Warnings to the perps they catch.
valley_forge
22-Jul-25, 11:42

<< large unknown organization >>
Unknown? Hmm, do you think maybe the MSM could be involved as well?
valley_forge
23-Jul-25, 08:06

Will Obama Finally Face the Music?
"Higgins: IG Report Confirms Obama-Era FBI Abused the FISA Process"

clayhiggins.house.gov

"Newly Declassified DOJ Watchdog Report Shows FBI Cut Corners in Clinton Email Investigation"

www.judiciary.senate.gov

"New Evidence of Obama Administration Conspiracy to Subvert President Trump’s 2016 Victory and Presidency"

www.dni.gov

Electric Light Orchestra - Fire On High (Audio)

youtu.be

classica
23-Jul-25, 09:10

I look at it as an opportunity for information overload.
I appreciate that Obama et al are being looked into, but
we have the best people working on the case, and for me,
that's enough.

What does concern me is the idea that the gov is building
avatars of everyone and building massive AI databases on
everyone. This is not just for advertising, but for predictive
governance, predictive policing and social engineering.
Additionally, it appears we now have stable coin - CBDC?

OK, these tools are great for removing invaders, but what
happens when this tech is turned on political dissidents? We
already saw the J6 people jailed. Are we headed, sideways,
into another version of dystopia?

On another point, I am all for using fossil fuels - but with
emission controls to reduce particulate pollution. Apparently,
Elon didn't get the memo, because he's running 35 mobile
gas generators on one data center and double on another -
both in Tennessee - with no emission control. CO2 as pollution
may be a hoax, but particulate pollution is no hoax and is harmful.
valley_forge
23-Jul-25, 09:34

In response to Classica's post @ 23-Jul-25, 09:10

You have an interesting POV there.

Bouncing off some of those "What ifs", Americans can envision all kinds of possibilities for explaining what our Gov't could be doing in order to maintain power while keeping the masses pacified. "Giving us circuses and bread" has long been a great pacifier, I have to agree.

On the other hand, according to what the Scriptures say I don't doubt for a minute whatever straw man is put up, it's all going to come crashing down. Satan knows his time is short (Revelation 12:12)

“For this reason, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them. Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, knowing that he has only a short time.”

Bible warnings about the End of Time in the Prophecies related to the Second Coming of Jesus predicts humanity will eventually become fodder for Satan's last stand.

The Christian's perspective is that only Jesus Christ can bring peace to the earth.
softaire
23-Jul-25, 10:06

I thought it was the Roman Empire that put lions and other beasts into the colosseum with the Christians. Are you saying it was actually the Devil?
thumper
23-Jul-25, 10:12

The devil made them do it?
valley_forge
23-Jul-25, 11:20

In response to Softaire's post @ 23-Jul-25, 10:06

The Bible describes the one responsible very clearly; Ephesians 2:2 /

"in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience."

"The prince of the power of the air" is Satan, incidentally.

valley_forge
23-Jul-25, 12:21

MAGA Trump, Aboutt to Make History!
By ULTRA MAGA Dean Erickson

President Trump is telling us it’s different this time than before when he said, “Let’s see what happens.” , now they are going down and they’re going down for treason.

Pres Trump: He’s guilty, it’s not a question, I like to say let’s give it time, it’s there, he’s guilty.
Notice he didn’t say, “Let’s see what happens, it’s there, he’s guilty!

Pres Trump: This was treason.
He’s also calling it for what it is, TREASON, and he’s being very deliberate about it.

As he continues, he lays it in layman’s terms for the everyday American that hasn’t been paying attention.

Pres Trump: This was every word you could think of, They tried to steal the election, and they tried to obfuscate the election, they tried to do things that nobody’s ever even has imagined, even in other countries.

Not shown in this clip, he then continues saying, “We have all the documents. And from what Tulsi told me, she’s got thousands of additional documents coming.”

He’s masterful at setting the stage for more revelations to come as we get closer and closer to the first arrest, which I believe will be President Barack Hussein Obama.
classica
23-Jul-25, 13:46

I have a feeling RussiaGate is just the beginning.

Facing jail time [or execution], birds sing.

Why did they launch "Crossfire Hurricane"?
What were they afraid Trump would find, once in office?
valley_forge
23-Jul-25, 19:54

In response to Classica's post @ 23-Jul-25, 13:46

That is a very good observation! Getting to the bottom of these two witch hunts are not going to be easy or adjudicated with any sense of accomplishing definite goals. I don’t know what kind of documentation Pam Bondi and the FBI will bring to the table, but you can bet those involved are going to be focused on covering their buttocks to minimize the penalties for their crimes.

It will be interesting to see what kind of spin narrative the MSM is going to bring to the table seeing that they were played as much as the American people.

"The Corrupt Media Did Not Fall For The Russia Collusion Hoax. They Were Part Of It"

www.ff.org

"The Russian Collusion Hoax Lives On Through MSNBC’s Conspiracy-Obsessed Hosts And Contributors"

www.conservativereview.com


classica
24-Jul-25, 01:41

I have heard, over the years, that after WWll there was
a German / European spy network remaining. The USA
chose to keep that network of Allied and German intel
agents [Operation Paperclip?]. To make themselves relevant
and keep the funding coming in, they created "The Cold War",
whereby the Russian "threat" was amplified out of proportion.
Could it be that Russia is not the Boogeyman we have been
trained to believe? Could it be that the Ukraine war has more
to do with the Ukraine coupe in 2014, the changing of the
national language -especially in Donbas and the eastern border?

And now, could it be that Putin does not want to negotiate with
Zelensky, because he does not recognize Zelensky as the legitimate
leader, due to Zelensky cancelling democratic elections. An agreement
signed today may easily be scrapped in the event of new legitimate
leader being elected in Ukraine. Russia is winning the war, so they
do not have strong motivation to end the war on the west's terms.

Putin wants denazification of Ukraine. Is that a bad thing?
valley_forge
24-Jul-25, 08:10

In response to Classica's post @ 24-Jul-25, 01:41

Another interesting and relevant (beautifully poetic!) POV.

However, the tie between Allied/Nazi corroboration IMO didn't directly get America & Russia into the Cold War (did it?).

There was/ is an occultic dimension tie between the Nazi scientists and the American NASA Admin. This particular aspect of the Nazis scientists, like the extraterrestrial aspect (Roswell, Area 51 et tel) Aren't these issues being kept "Top Secret" to keep American citizens in the dark?

Your POV above about the Russians/ Putin interests in Ukraine are spot on! Indeed, ending denazification of Ukraine WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.
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