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 Buying a pistolAny thoughts about that? Jan |
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keystoneshootingcenter.com If you are carrying it... www.pewpewtactical.com |
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mistee 18-Aug-24, 16:21 |
Me too... Thanks for asking this question, Mooneandmore and thanks for posting these links, Apatzer. |
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Jest sayin’ May 30, 2022 by WholeHealth Chicago My personal experience with guns is close to zero, except for coveting (and never receiving) a Daisy Red Ryder air rifle when I was about twelve years old. Otherwise, I’ve never held, much less shot, either a rifle or a handgun, nor have I ever been in a situation where I might have muttered, “If I only had a gun.”. Any doctor who gets his training in an urban environment will certainly see his share of what bullets can do to the human body. I spent many nights at Cook County Hospital (now Stroger), either in the emergency room removing bullets from arms and legs, or scrubbed in surgery second assisting surgeons repairing someone who’d been ‘gutshot’, or signing a death certificate on a murder or a suicide. The medical abbreviation for a gunshot wound is ‘GSW’ and a typical note might read, “GSW right chest vital signs stable taken to OR 11:15 PM”. Many of these victims you read about don’t have health insurance. A recent study estimated the cost to the U.S. healthcare system to treat gunshot wounds is $170 billion a year with $16 billion in surgical operations alone. Although I’m a Chicagoan to the core, for a while I did practice in rural Minnesota. No gang violence of course, but a sampling of hunting accidents (“I thought Bill was a deer”), homicidal domestic violence, and two or three suicides. But this Health Tip is about you and your longevity. Before you start filling out the paperwork for your new gun, seemingly to protect yourself, your loved ones, and that “to die for” BMW (both literally and figuratively speaking) from a home invader or carjacker,understand that you’ll actually manage to use your gun in less than 1% of the time. In your BMW, you’ll grab your hand sanitizer by mistake and get killed in the process. At home, instead, try to call the police. In your car, you’re always better off, longevity-wise, turning over whatever the guy wants. Sometime in the 1950’s an uncle of mine, whom I had never knew, was shot, and killed chasing some kid who had shoplifted a candy bar from his grocery store. He knew the kid had a gun, but my uncle grabbed his own gun, lost his life, left a widow and two small daughters, all for a Hershey bar. If you do have a gun, one study, published in the New England Journal of Medicine in 1993, found that your home will have three times the risk that someone will be killed by a family member A more recent study (2019) showed that those States with high gun ownership had 65% more domestic homicides than among States with restrictive laws. A 2017 study, tracking a spike in gun purchases, also showed a spike in accidental gun injuries, with children and teens having access to guns (“I thought I’d hidden the gun away”). A New England Journal of Medicine study tracked 26 million adults in California about the outcome of their handgun purchases. Men who had purchased guns were three times more likely to die by suicide than non-gun owners. Women were seven times more likely. It’s important to understand that gun purchasers are rarely, if ever, suicidal when they’re making the gun purchase. However, in the future, if and when they become depressed, they have an effective and immediate means to end their lives. And then of course, there’s the collateral damage from guns. Three days after the Uvalde tragedy, the husband of the slain teacher died of a heart attack. The parents of the Sandy Hook children will never be released from their grief, nor will the grieving families of the 25,000 suicides and 20,000 homicides all gun related that we’re trapped in every year. This is a lot of emotional trauma and may very likely have profound effects on physical health and longevity. Might be a good idea to take those guns of yours over to the nearest police station and ask to have them melted down. You can even start explaining longevity medicine to the desk sergeant. Be well, David Edelberg, MD wholehealthchicago.com |
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I've shot competition My plan is to not pack unless the need arises, and I was once a good enough shot to only need one bullet between the eyeballs (or in the nuts ) per. |
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mistee 18-Aug-24, 17:51 |
I only shoot at the gun range I personally just like to shoot at the gun range. When I took my conceal carry class, I never actually intended on carrying once I got my permit. I think I was just trying to do something different and out of the ordinary for me. A bucket list item. Or maybe to prove something to myself. It was during a time there was a lot of talk about taking away gun rights and I think I just wanted to be able to exercise my rights and options. I was the only one in the class that did not intend on carrying. I've renewed my permit once and I plan to continue to renew it....just because I can. But I don't think I would ever feel comfortable actually carrying a gun. |
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jonheck 18-Aug-24, 19:36 |
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jonheck 18-Aug-24, 21:10 |
Deleted by jonheck on 19-Aug-24, 02:29.
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CCP Last night some critter killed one of my hens. Their commotion awakened my wife who woke me up. I grabbed a firearm but nothing presented—was always too late, I suspect a weasel. I have shot two of these, two raccoons, and fired to scare a dog that broke into my coup. Note, warning shots are utterly meaningless. Shoot to kill, or don’t bother. If anyone or any animal is not scared by you, there isn’t any noise you might make to scare them more than yelling. A gunshot is as meaningless to an intruder as any verbal warning, unless you’ve struck them. That is meaningful. The dogs didn’t even flinch when I fired into a hillside (near my target range). I might consider a .44 an exception. The over pressure from that is discouraging, if not the noise. But if you do that, do not expect any verbal response except from lip readers. I do not own a .44. Also note an instrument indicates use. If you hunt, get a rifle. Or a shotgun for bird game—ducks, quail, turkey, etc. for home defense a pistol or shotgun should not set you back more than around $500. Unless you want to shoot in competition, like the Olympics. People dole out $4000 or more for match spec weapons. And that is a lot. |
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Firearm I think I recommended the Hellcat in private correspondence. Whether you choose laser or not get the groove, so you have the option of adding it. I bought two, and put the laser on one. It is super useful for training to fire from the hip, and for firing positions without the sights. Use the sights first, of course. My sister pain-law pulls so hard her shots all kick up dirt halfway to a fifty foot target. She doesn’t understand “squeeze.” So that is an important concept. Gently apply pressure until the discharge catches you by surprise. I don’t recall what the take up is on my trigger, but I have not had them adjusted the way I like. My cousin had a .38 revolver with the sweetest trigger I ever fired. Just when you were fully ready to shoot you already did. My dad’s trigger was so light in contrast that it would go off before I was ready. You couldn’t scare it without it discharging. I want a bit more pressure. On the other hand, my Taurus (which was stolen) would pull, slip, pull, take up more, then finally discharge. It suffered smokestack jams until someone pointed out my grip was too loose. Holding it firm stopped that. My other pieces fire just fine. The Glock never jams. I think I would have to fire it upside down against the ground to make it fail. Not that I would ever try anything like that, of course. |
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jonheck 15-Jan-25, 03:29 |
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jonheck 15-Jan-25, 03:47 |
Surely the near or complete end of private ownership of by far the most dangerous gun type, the pistol, is “reasonable”! |
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Shiva Answer: Nothing. |
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APATZER I got the second phase shots for rabies after I got scratched and possibly bitten by a raccoon that was found to be rabid. There were only three shot regimens in the entire area of about 200,000 and the VA had two of them. I didn't get the first, most important, and painful (local) shot series that apparently kills just about all life it makes contact with because I missed the 24 hr contact maximum by almost 24 hours. The VA Dr explained that he had cared for many rabies cases when he was over-seas, and that, because I had missed the first shots, I would have been more-or-less guaranteed dead if I had actually contracted rabies. The second shots were in the shoulder of the arm where the contact was made --- they're designed to catch rabies critters that have gotten into the blood stream (very bad news for the patient). It's lucky that rabies is quite rare --- at least in America. |
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Warning Shot #MeToo. I meant for dogs. It’s just a noise to them, they certainly weren’t the least bit scared off. So the movies are false. Now, as for me, just lower a waistband or even slide a hand into a pocket or inside a shirt and I’m all, “no need to escalate.” Unless I’m being robbed. |
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Spread vs. Group I think there is a place for spread—in basic training my father was on a course where there were detectors that were supposed to have been hidden. The point was to just throw enough lead down range you probably hit something. As his name was near the bottom of the list the range was so shot up the detectors were no longer hidden, so he could direct fire for a really high shot/hit ratio, as could anyone else. I don’t recall that was described as “spread”, and certainly doesn’t apply in any domestic situation outside a zombie attack, suppressing mobs, crowd control, or quieting country music festivals, MAGA. |
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Safe Storage of my hand guns The hellcat seems to be a decent choice for daily carry. my weapons are not glocks or smith & wessons. I do shoot mine at the range and one is a 45,the first one I bought was a 9mm and my last one is a 22 revolver that is a long barrel and uses inexpensive ammo. As I travel now and have to fly or drive thru different states I have not been carrying anymore. I believe a 38 revolver is my best recommendation to purchase for carrying concealed. It is the most reliable weapon. Glocks, Sigs, Sccy, kelteks, and too many others are probally my 2nd choice and or other semi-automatics Although they can jam up failing to eject the cartridge. You must clear and manually re-rack by pulling the slide back. My last bit of information is that when you do carry you must be ready to use your weapon and in a split of a second you need to know where your bullet will land. If you have no intention of protecting yourself or property imo you should probally not even own a weapon. |
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A spread Mine was done by a PHD on the subject at a HUGE in-door shooting gallery, and it wasn't perfect --- just better than most. The evaluation wasn't cheap, but VA paid for my training and evaluation. |
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Spread again www.ammoman.com |
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