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apatzer 11-May-20, 22:53	What is our Universe made of? It is the biggest unanswered question in science.
stalhandske 11-May-20, 22:58	The conventional answer is "Composition. The universe is composed almost completely of dark energy, dark matter, and ordinary matter. Other contents are electromagnetic radiation (estimated to constitute from 0.005% to close to 0.01% of the total mass-energy of the universe) and antimatter." The truly worrisome part of this current world view is that we have no idea about the nature of either dark energy or dark matter! They are not part of real physics but postulated entities in order to make current knowledge fit the current theory! And THAT is worrying in my humble opinion.
apatzer 11-May-20, 23:20	I was under the impression that the universe is made of space time. Space time has dictated everything in the observable Universe. A fascinating show... youtu.be
stalhandske 11-May-20, 23:25	Space-time is a concept, not what the Universe is MADE of
apatzer 11-May-20, 23:32	Space time is a concept that we use to explain a fundamental function of the universe. Space time isn't nothing, it is something and that something comprises the entire Universe. Everything else (the 4%) is just along for the ride.
stalhandske 12-May-20, 04:16	Yes, but you asked what the Universe is made of. The way I understand that it doesn't include concepts or laws or the like even though they obviously are "there".
nambam 12-May-20, 05:09	The tower of Babel is a biblical myth explaining why humans speak such a variety of languages. anyone believe it to be the truth, and if not do you have another explanation?
nambam 12-May-20, 05:13	i probably should have opened a new thread,although it seems to fit in with the general run of potboilers in this one.
apatzer 12-May-20, 07:19	The Tower of Bable. Is often thought to be a ziggurat and some archaeologists have some ideas on this subject. All revolving around ancient Mesopotamia. However I think man's take away or lesson from that story is all wrong. The general human consensus is that God did that so they could not coordinate with one another and to separate people's from people's. I dissagree with that interpretation. But to answer your question, I don't know if it is real but I do know what I have learned from that story. Which is this. God stopped man from doing something that was impossible to do. Because the condition of the heart was simply pure ambition. They did not have the right mindset or the right heart to reach God. So not only is it physically impossible to reach God with a power. It is also spiritually impossible to reach God with a tower. IMHO God redirected man from a disastrous course. That would probably have far-reaching consequences that we could not predict or foresee to our species and the way we think and the way we act. So speaking other languages actually slows mankind down and makes us strive to try to understand one another better. The take away is this. If mankind work's together in the right way, with the right condition of heart and the right motivation and ambition. Then there is nothing we can not achieve.
apatzer 12-May-20, 07:29	P.S If all of mankind work's together with the wrong ambition, the wrong condition of heart and motivation. We will destroy ourselves.
zorroloco 12-May-20, 08:07	The universe Is made of elections, protons, neutrons and morons
apatzer 12-May-20, 14:09	Zorroloco Lol. A long time ago I had a supervisor name Ron. I would joke to my co workers... About more Ron's.
stalhandske 12-May-20, 20:04	Apatzer Did you note the other oddity in Zorro's post, which might have been a Freudian slip? He wrote "elections" instead of "electrons"!   Politix sticks its dirty nose into all threads here!
zorroloco 12-May-20, 20:18	Stal Lol Unintentional
apatzer 12-May-20, 21:40	LMAO I absolutely read electrons.
stalhandske 12-May-20, 21:53	You see how important it is for yo'all to have a diligent overseer in the Club
apatzer 12-May-20, 21:57	Stalhandske Yes, and I deeply appreciate you and what you have taught me. Thank you.
stalhandske 12-May-20, 22:02	Apatzer Much obliged, but you are far too kind & polite! You have taught me much more during these exchanges than vice versa. My comment above was of course just a joke.
apatzer 12-May-20, 22:08	Stalhandske I knew you were joking around. But it also happens to be true. Thank you for the kind words.
stalhandske 12-May-20, 22:11	<You see how important it is for yo'all to have a diligent overseer in the Club> I tried hard to sound like mo-one, whom I both admire and respect, but who hasn't much participated, yet, in III.
chaz- 13-May-20, 18:46	...and I post little, but I read a lot. Keep up the good work, amigos!
lord_shiva 14-May-20, 06:26	Evolution of Language Any decent dictionary lays out the relationships between the world's languages. Fascinating reading.
archduke_piccolo 15-May-20, 17:02	Dark matter... I have a feeling that 'Dark Matter' might well turn out to be matter that simply isn't all that bright. There is another possibility, though, that occurs to me. Dark matter is matter, that just happens not to exist in this universe - or at least, not in this plane (volume). Perhaps, outside this plane, it exists close enough to influence this plane in the manner that it does. If our universe is (say) a 3D 'hyper-surface' upon a 4D 'hyper-volume' such an hypothesis seems to me plausible. Dark energy might have the same quality: influential within this plane, but existing outside it. Here's a couple of questions I have that others might have answers for (or links to possible answers): 1. Does 'space' - the bits not occupied by what we call 'matter' - have non-zero mass? 2. Has space, whether it has mass or not, any kind of cohesion that we might call 'surface tension' - analogous, say, to the cohesive tension of an expanded (or expanding) rubber balloon?
archduke_piccolo 15-May-20, 17:08	Deleted by archduke_piccolo on 15-May-20, 17:08.
archduke_piccolo 15-May-20, 17:11	Slightly off topic... ... my daughter (living in Oz, and expecting her first in June) sent this to me via facebook: Me to Aidan: "If multiverse theory is real, does that mean there's a universe in which it isn't?" Aidan: "I need a beer."
apatzer 15-May-20, 18:22	Opinion of mine We no what spacetime isn't, but we have no idea what it is, or what it is made of. There is absolutely some kind of surface tension. Space time can be bent and stretched. It can expand faster than the speed of light. Matter tell's space time how to bend, and space time tells matter how to move. My personal opinion, is our Universe is a white hole. (Bad name for it) in other words. Matter falling into the gravity well of a black hole. Is transformed into the purest most efficient form of raw energy, and since quantum mechanics has a limit on how small something can be, there isn't a singularity at all. The energy hits the central point and bounces out. Yes similar to blowing up a balloon. Something is dumping in energy into the universe. Since there isn't a central point. Everywhere is the central point. And the universe expands because more energy is being dumped into it. World's within world's; world's without end
apatzer 15-May-20, 18:23	My phone auto corrects, my apologies 😣
stalhandske 15-May-20, 19:59	<And the universe expands because more energy is being dumped into it.> No, the universe is expanding because substance transmutes into space.
stalhandske 15-May-20, 20:24	<1. Does 'space' - the bits not occupied by what we call 'matter' - have non-zero mass?> If I understand this correctly, this interesting question concerns the composition of what we often call "nothing", i.e. the ether or the vacuum. According to one theory that I currently support, this is composed of pairs of quanta (photons) in opposite phase so they are "invisible". Photons have no mass <2. Has space, whether it has mass or not, any kind of cohesion that we might call 'surface tension' - analogous, say, to the cohesive tension of an expanded (or expanding) rubber balloon?> In my view the answer is "no".
stalhandske 15-May-20, 20:51	<<2. Has space, whether it has mass or not, any kind of cohesion that we might call 'surface tension' - analogous, say, to the cohesive tension of an expanded (or expanding) rubber balloon?>> <In my view the answer is "no".> Already Newton considered the void as a remarkably mobile and elastic substance. Indeed, the changes in photon wavelengths are huge as matter transforms into vacuum and vice versa. So may be I was too hasty and the answer should have been "yes"?
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