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colinthepoet 19-Aug-25, 06:57	Is it not significant here that Australia has far fewer states which need to agree to changes?
bobspringett 19-Aug-25, 15:07	Colin Yes, but one of them is Tasmania.
bobspringett 19-Aug-25, 15:22	I continue a line of thought from a previous post, in which I said "It's America's rabidly adversarial culture that makes it impossible." A similar example can be seen in history. The Greek city-states started as fiercely independent polities, often going to war against each other. This made them easier to be subsumed into either the Delian League (the Athenian hegemony) or Spartan domination. That led to the Peloponnesian War. Not even that resolved their rivalries; Philip of Macedon conquered them all, one by one. (Except Sparta, When he sent Sparta an ultimatum "If I come against you I will.....", they replied in one word. "If".) His son Alexander forced Spartan submission to Macedonia in the League of Corinth. That was the end of independent Greek cities forever. Will America go the same way? Was the Civil War just the first stage of a similar protracted split?
vanessashane 19-Aug-25, 15:36	Quote "Are you familiar with the United States of America, Spock?" "Yes, as I am with both their civil wars and their devastating results." -- Strange New Worlds, S01E01 Yes, I'm a Trekkie.
brigadecommander 19-Aug-25, 18:41	Deleted by brigadecommander on 19-Aug-25, 18:42.
brigadecommander 19-Aug-25, 18:44	vanessa i too am a trekkie!! and proud of it.www.youtube.com
lord_shiva 19-Aug-25, 19:00	Gavin Gold If you are concerned about Newsom trolling the Oval Office idiot, you need be doubly concerned about who he is spoofing. stablediffusionweb.com There is a great one I cannot find a link to of a muscle bound Newsome standing astride a reclining Melania, her eyes fixed upon him in lustful adoration. Glorious!
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