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lord_shiva 04-Dec-22, 15:20	Groper Seeks to Abolish Constitution This is a question for my conservative friends. Is Groper right to request we abolish the constitution and anoint him king of America?
victoriasas 04-Dec-22, 15:41	I don’t know how many conservatives are in this club, but I would say obviously not. He might have an argument if cheating (fraudulent ballots) in the 2020 election had been proven - at least cheating significant enough to alter the outcome - but it wasn’t. I honestly don’t know if it took place. I have a hard time believing Biden got 80 million votes (or whatever the number was,) but then I think many (most?) of those votes were simply anti-Trump votes and not pro-Biden votes.
softaire 04-Dec-22, 17:09	Former President Trump has been shooting himself in the foot ever since the election was stolen from him. I believe THAT shock altered his mental state. He should have simply accepted it and moved on but sometimes a huge shock causes the loss of mental capacity and abilities. Someone has written that he has now committed political suicide. I hope he realizes it and decides to retire. He will not do the country or himself any good by continuing. And NO... we are not about to abolish the Constitution or relitigate the 2020 election.
lord_shiva 04-Dec-22, 18:43	LOL Stolen from him? So you have swallowed Groper’s unsupported lie the election was rigged. Fascinating. Do you think it was Dominion voting machines, or bamboozled ballots?
victoriasas 04-Dec-22, 18:53	I think the election *may* have been stolen from him. But he and his lawyers didn’t produce the evidence that it was. So to say the election was stolen from him as though that’s an established fact is incorrect and irresponsible. In my opinion.
lord_shiva 04-Dec-22, 20:00	Political Suicide It wasn’t over for him when he refused to support the RNC candidate. It wasn’t over when he attacked war hero John McCain. It wasn’t over when the Hollywood Access Tape came out, or when he mocked the disabled reporter, or paid off the porn star. He got a huge amount of flak for the pu$$y grabbing comment, but conservatives shrugged that off as easily as they did his extorting foreign governments to subvert US elections or inciting insurrection (impeachments one and two). He has not yet shot anyone in the face, but that is water off a duck’s back. He has no fault too glaring it cannot be winked at and overlooked. Remember, morality is now for sale. It has monetary value, equal to the power exchange—at least in the GOP. Romney and Cheney and Kitzinger are being kicked out of the party for possessing personal integrity. The GOP has said screw that with a Donald sized dildo.
lord_shiva 04-Dec-22, 20:02	I Agree with Andrew Without a shred of evidence pushing Groper’s election lies is as irresponsible as giving the keys to the kingdom to a greedy, amoral, narcissistic, ignorant imbecile.
lord_shiva 08-Aug-25, 05:50	Oops, we did it again So sad we are now going to shrug of Groper’s pedophilia, the reason behind his suppression of the Epstein files. “Pedophilia? Well, what is a little child rape among us MAGA Republicans?”

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