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zorroloco 17-Nov-24, 05:56	For Thumper So he can educate himself about the allegations and maje his opinion meaningful. The Investigations Into Matt Gaetz: What to Know Federal prosecutors scrutinized claims that Donald Trump’s choice for attorney general had sex with an underage girl, but did not charge him. The House Ethics Committee had its own inquiry. Nov. 14, 2024 President-elect Donald J. Trump’s announcement that he will nominate Matt Gaetz to be attorney general has resurrected questions about Justice Department and House ethics investigations into Mr. Gaetz’s conduct and whether he had sex with a 17-year-old girl who was being paid for her services. Here is what we know about the investigations and allegations. The Justice Department investigated Mr. Gaetz but never charged him. In 2019, federal authorities in Florida opened a public corruption investigation into one of Mr. Gaetz’s close associates, an Orlando-area local tax collector named Joel Greenberg. Fashioning himself as a local version of Mr. Trump, Mr. Greenberg was elected to his position in 2016. Shortly thereafter, he began using taxpayer money to buy sports memorabilia, harvest bitcoin and hire cronies, according to federal prosecutors and people familiar with the investigation. As part of the investigation into Mr. Greenberg, the authorities gained access to Mr. Greenberg’s electronics, revealing that Mr. Greenberg had repeatedly paid young women — whom he met on a website — to attend parties with him and his friends where they used drugs and had sex. Investigators would ultimately determine that one of the girls who was paid for sex was under 18 at the time. The Justice Department spent two years investigating Mr. Gaetz but closed the case last year with no charges.Tierney L. Cross for The New York Times In an attempt to stave off a lengthy prison sentence for having sex with a minor, Mr. Greenberg began cooperating with federal authorities in August 2020. He told the authorities that Mr. Gaetz, who had been elected to the House in 2016, had sex with the same girl, who was 17 at the time, and that Mr. Gaetz knew she was being paid. Mr. Greenberg’s lawyer, Fritz Scheller, provided the authorities with additional evidence that he claimed backed up Mr. Greenberg’s testimony. Mr. Gaetz said the allegations were unfounded and were part of an effort by his political enemies to destroy him. The Justice Department spent two years investigating Mr. Gaetz, interviewing the women and examining a range of documents. If investigators proved that Mr. Gaetz had sex with a 17-year-old, it would expose him to federal sex trafficking laws that come with a mandatory 10-year prison sentence. Last year, the Justice Department ended the investigation without charging Mr. Gaetz. The House Ethics Committee also investigated. The House Ethics Committee began an investigation into Mr. Gaetz in 2021 when The New York Times reported that he was under federal investigation. But because there was an ongoing Justice Department investigation, the committee paused its inquiry until after federal prosecutors wrapped up their work. Over the past year and a half, the committee has examined a range of allegations about Mr. Gaetz, including whether he showed nude photos of women to other members on the floor of the House; whether he used illegal drugs; whether he had sex with the 17-year-old and knew she was being paid; and whether he misused campaign funds for personal purposes. Mr. Gaetz blamed Kevin McCarthy, the House speaker at the time, for reviving the investigation. Mr. Gaetz said the inquiry was retribution for his being a thorn in the side of House Republican leaders. The panel interviewed several of the women who Mr. Greenberg said had sex with Mr. Gaetz, including the 17-year-old. The panel also subpoenaed Mr. Greenberg for documents he had related to Mr. Gaetz, some of which surfaced in a related civil suit that was later dropped. In response to questions about the subpoena, Mr. Scheller refused to say what documents may have been handed over but said: “Mr. Greenberg has fully responded to all congressional requests.” When Mr. Gaetz resigned his House seat following Mr. Trump’s announcement, the panel lost jurisdiction over him, and the investigation ended. On Thursday, lawmakers in both parties called on the panel to release its report. A lawyer who represents the woman who was 17 at the time of the suspected encounter with Mr. Gaetz also called for the report to be released. “Mr. Gaetz’s likely nomination as attorney general is a perverse development in a truly dark series of events,” said the lawyer, John Clune. “We would support the House Ethics Committee immediately releasing their report. She was a high school student and there were witnesses.”
zorroloco 17-Nov-24, 06:03	Deleted by zorroloco on 17-Nov-24, 06:03.
zorroloco 17-Nov-24, 06:03	Deleted by zorroloco on 17-Nov-24, 06:05.
zorroloco 17-Nov-24, 06:05	Thumper’s excuse (Damn typos) ‘She was almost 18.’ Hahahahaha Even if she were 20, he went to cocaine/sex (paid sex) parties with young women when he was 38. That’s AG material? This is the best the Corpulent Clown could come up with for the highest legal office in the land??? It just shows the ethical/moral standards of tRump. … and, sadly, tHumper. Truly disgusting
zorroloco 18-Nov-24, 17:51	And Women testified to House panel that they were paid for sexual favors by Gaetz, lawyer says CNN Two women testified to the House Ethics Committee that they were paid for “sexual favors” by former Rep. Matt Gaetz, President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for attorney general, a lawyer for the two women told CNN’s Erin Burnett on Monday. Additionally, one of the women testified to the congressional panel that she witnessed Gaetz having sex with her then-underage friend in 2017, the lawyer, Joel Leppard, said on “OutFront.” CNN reported that detail Friday.
zorroloco 18-Nov-24, 17:52	Thumper Are you sticking with your uneducated defense of Gaetz. He didn’t kniw she wasn’t 18?
lord_shiva 18-Nov-24, 19:06	Tucked Tail and Ran Away I doubt we ever hear back.
lord_shiva 18-Nov-24, 19:25	Right to Run When you have all the fighting skill of Roseann Barr and you find yourself up against Jake Paul, you do a 180° and skedaddle just as fast as you stubby little legs can carry you. I was highly amused to hear a pundit speculate disclosure of the investigative report could be used to coerce the attorney general to cancel investigations into allies or launch investigations into opponents just as I had outlined. I guess the scenario was pretty obvious. But clearly this is the best possible candidate for Groper—one eager to please his master even without the disciplinary choker collar. Now we find out Pete H. raped a woman, apparently during his third marriage who he paid off for he silence. No wonder Groper fell such close kinship with this fellow pea in a pod.
zorroloco 18-Nov-24, 19:36	Shiva He’ll come back to make some inflammatory comments or snide attacks on one of us and then act outraged and holier than thou when we respond in kind. Then he’ll duck out again. He’s done that dozens of times. At least he’s consistent 🤣
zorroloco 18-Nov-24, 19:38	Shiva Sexual assault and rape is a badge of honor for trump appointees. Like attracting like.
lord_shiva 18-Nov-24, 20:01	How Many Women Have You Raped? Zero? What makes you think you're qualified for a cabinet position then? NEXT! Kristi Noem never raped anyone, but executing a puppy and a goat in her gravel pit of horror qualifies her. Tulsi Gabbards (I guess I have the name right this time?) may not have butchered family pets, but her close ties to Putin make her an ideal choice for Director of National Intelligence. So sweet Donold has determined none of his picks should be subject to background checks or senate confirmation, and that all should simply be granted whatever security clearance he deems necessary. Security is just a big joke anyway now that Groper is CIC. There is an enormous spigot way up north that takes Groper one whole day to turn, but when he does the national secrets just come pouring out straight to Russia instead of being diverted into the Pacific Ocean. So what difference does it make if anyone has a security clearance or not? All the nation's secrets will already be freely disseminated to Russian agents, just as they were last time. When you have the nation's nuclear secrets securely stashed in your bathroom, bedroom closet, pool house, and the boxes are shuffled around to hide them the prying eyes of the national archives, whee! Make that man president again! We haven't sacrificed nearly enough. Damn!
zorroloco 19-Nov-24, 08:45	Interesting While Gaetz is a despicable human being, he has said some interesting things. I wonder if he was lying then or will act on his statements. “I strongly support the rights of transgender individuals. I will not denigrate or deny their struggles.” Matt Gaetz “Climate change isn't something people get to choose to believe or not: it's happening.” Matt Gaetz “While I unconditionally support the First Amendment, inciting violence against others due to their political affiliation is not constitutionally protected speech.” Matt Gaetz “The reality of climate change is a stupid thing to argue about.” Matt Gaetz
zorroloco 19-Nov-24, 08:47	And “Upon further reflection, I think that the things Alex Jones has said and done are so hurtful to so many people that a member of Congress should not grace that platform and legitimize it, and I would not go back.” Matt Gaetz
zorroloco 20-Nov-24, 15:20	Of course they did Republicans Block Release of Ethics Report on Gaetz
zorroloco 20-Nov-24, 20:20	Federal Inquiry Traced Payments From Gaetz to Women A document prepared by federal investigators bolsters claims by women who say they were hired for sex by Matt Gaetz,
zorroloco 21-Nov-24, 09:37	Rotflmao Matt Gaetz, the former representative who President-elect Donald J. Trump wanted as his attorney general, has withdrawn from consideration. Guilty! Even now, tRump is combing through sex offender files to find another AG nominee
zorroloco 21-Nov-24, 09:38	And… He’s resigned as House Representative! Lol
zorroloco 21-Nov-24, 09:38	Deleted by zorroloco on 21-Nov-24, 09:38.
zorroloco 21-Nov-24, 09:45	Of course he is tRump has told advisers he is standing by Mr. Hegseth as his pick despite the sexual assault allegation. According to tRump, “Sexual assault is just boys being boys. I wouldn’t trust any man who hadn’t proven his Red-blooded Americanism by assaulting women. How else can you determine who won’t make a mountain out of the molehill of my many assaults, rapes and walking in on teenagers dressing rooms!”
zorroloco 21-Nov-24, 09:53	For the record The above quote is as accurate as anything tRump has said in the last decade.
lord_shiva 21-Nov-24, 10:24	Gaetz Withdraws! Victory! Women may breathe a sigh of relief, along with Groper’s political opponents against whom Gaetz was eager to weaponize the DOJ against.
lord_shiva 21-Nov-24, 10:26	Zorro Beats Me to It zorroloco 21-Nov-24, 09:37 I failed to thread up far enough. My feed is probably close to an hour slow, as we paused it for various things and did not speed through enough commercials to catch up.
zorroloco 21-Nov-24, 10:34	Shiva You think he’ll pick someone better?? 🤣 He’s combing sex offender’s files right now. Paying teenagers for sex at coke parties just isn’t sufficient. Rape, or at least sexual assault, is de rigueur.
zorroloco 22-Nov-24, 12:19	“Former Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz, who withdrew from consideration as President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for attorney general on Thursday, said Friday he will not be returning to Congress next year.” No surprise. Returning to Congress would mean reopening the investigation of his child diddling
zorroloco 05-Dec-24, 19:43	But of course they did House Blocks Release of Ethics Report on Gaetz as Republicans Close Ranks In largely party-line votes, the House turned back two measures that would have forced the Ethics Committee to make public the results of its investigation into allegations of sexual misconduct and drug use.
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