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 14thSlaves were not full citizens, they counted as 3/5ths of a person but could be put down for any reason, maimed, tortured, or killed. That southern states passed no laws against bestiality permitted slaves to be raped or used for sexual gratification when desired. The 14th granted citizenship to slave children who had not previously been recognized. The south quickly worked to restore what heinous practices they could with the Jim Crow laws, of course, which extended into the 1940s practice of naming military bases after prominent KKK leaders, and taxing blacks to pay for public monuments dedicated to confederate heroes, MAGA. Donald is restoring those names, as an affront to the black males who voted for him. |
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Shgiva 12:48 Agreed, but they WERE 'lawfully a resident in the United States'. Therefore their children would be citizens. It would have exactly the same effect on slave children without writing a blank cheque for tourists or other transients. Sloppy writing! <Slaves were not full citizens, they counted as 3/5ths of a person> Speaking of that 3/5ths rule; what could be a more obvious self-contradiction than that absurdity? Count them for the purposes of allocating seats in Congress, but don't allow them to vote for those seats! Surely anyone with intelligence would see this as an absurdity! But the Southern states demanded and the Northern states accepted this abomination, so they all deserved what sprang from it. "If you can accept an absurdity, you can commit an atrocity." Much better to base allocation of seats and determination of boundaries on the number of REGISTERED VOTERS. That would benefit those states who actively promoted voter registration rather than putting barriers in the way. |
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dmaestro 27-Jan-25, 22:59 |
It’s not even the economy or immigration. It’s a revolution. This isn’t the usual lame duck second term. Biden screwed up so badly with the public it’s a welcome second chance to win the war as Dems flail on a path that no longer works and Trump will be seen as far better regardless. Biden was a huge mistake and fatal to Dems. Better Trump won in 2020. By prematurely saving from Trump the war was actually lost. Immigrants will pay a big price. |
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Big Price Latinos have been rewarded by the idiot renaming the Gulf of Mexico and the deportation of their “vermin” friends and relatives, MAGA. We are definitely getting far more than we deserve. We knew what kind of idiot we elected eight years ago. He is absolutely stupider this time around. |
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dmaestro 27-Jan-25, 23:37 |
The Biden failure was obvious by summer 2022. Ironically being saved from a huge midterm defeat by the Dobbs and not radically changing made 2024 far worse. Most will pay the price. But when you let Trump seem better that is predicable. Until Trump actually seems worse not just when he is he will have impunity. That may take a long time. |
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Shiva 23:10 Think back to his first term, how he tipped classified information that put many covert operatives into mortal danger. These guys were prepared to risk capture and torture, for the good of their country; but will the next batch be willing to risk that so some future President can get a ten-second ego-buzz? So who will be willing to join now, when their lives could be sacrificed Not out of national security, but for some momentary masturbation by a President a decade down the track? The same with the way he threw Fauci under a bus, and then removed his security protection. Who will dare take any position in the future if it could make him an endangered scapegoat? Or the DoJ lawyers who were doing no more that working on the cases assigned to them by their superiors now being sacked and black-listed. These weren't the 'Anti-Trump Deep State', they were just rank-and-file employees doing their jobs. A sure-fire way of ensuring that nobody will take a government job unless he can't get something better. Combine that with American allies who can never again feel that America will support them; perhaps they need to find some other Collective defence that doesn't depend on American involvement. One that will reduce American access to their lands for bases, their intelligence for data and their troops for political support in some of America's mini-wars. And of course this will mean they won't need to buy American weaponry or systems, so the R & D costs will now be totally carried by America and not shared among its allies. And America's trading partners looking at tariffs being imposed and relaxed on a whim. Perhaps they should bend their backs to find new markets and new suppliers to lessen American influence over their economies. Australia learned that lesson when we supported Trump's anti-Chinese rhetoric back in 2020, and had tariffs slapped on us for a wide range of goods. Trump rewarded us by adding his own tariffs on Australian aluminium, a fine way to treat a supporter! The Chinese trade war against America finished long ago, but tariffs against Australia remained in place much longer, to teach us what it costs to support that fool. Some have only been removed over the last year. Yes, President Xi, we got the message! The actions of Trump in his first term were enough to make everyone take notice; but the fact that Americans were so STUPID to elect him for a second term proves that they could well do something similar a third and fourth time as well. It's now obvious that America can't be relied on for ANYTHING. Best to rely on others for anything you need, as soon as you can build those alternative links. Trump has destroyed American credibility in every field known to the human intellect, both internationally and domestically. Pride goeth before a fall, and hubris before destruction. |
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dmaestro 28-Jan-25, 18:13 |
We knew this was coming. Been here for decades, law abiding and assimilated, self vetted, you are still a criminal. Send them back for good. Trump will complete what he started this time. If anyone expected moderation they were stupid. |
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Leopards Ate My Face Latinos vote for Groper, and to reward them Groper strikes the Spanish translations off all federal web sites. |
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dmaestro 28-Jan-25, 21:51 |
Hispanics voted for Trump who deported relatives here for decades. It’s a cult. I think it’s mass mind control but the dupes had enough warning. America deserves what is coming. I am still looking into taking my money from American and spending it elsewhere. |
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DM 21:51 Not a bad idea! If Trump puts in place even half of the tariffs he's talking about, inflation will go through the roof while unemployment will also rise. Think carefully about buying Euros, wait for a year to 18 months, and then buy real estate when mortgage holders are sent to the wall and prices crash. That's how people with spare cash made a killing in the GFC 17 years ago. |
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dmaestro 29-Jan-25, 15:10 |
Bob Thumper “generously” offered a one way ticket out if I renounced citizenship and never came back. That is how we “relate. Jeff was more correct about thumper than I initially realized. What intend to do instead is use the failed USA to get what I deserve, take care of myself, and work for needed divorce from his kind instead. |
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DM 15:10 This is something that those on t6he far Right just can't understand. They assume that anyone who doesn't agree with their own political viewpoint somehow don't love their country. "Sorry, Thumper, but I love my country too much to leave it in the hands of people like you!" The truth is that the radical Right do NOT love America; they love their own imagining of what they want America to be. The America that actually exists, the America that has a diversity of opinions, of religions, of ancestry, of preferences is something that they want to sweep away so everyone will be a 'right-thinking American' in their own image. It smells just a bit like narcissism, but scaled up to a national level. It reminds me of a Frenchman who claimed "L'etat, c'est moi!" and a German chap back in the 1930's who proclaimed "Ich bin Deutschland!" I love my country too, as I have demonstrated by giving so much of my money, time, heart and soul to improving it. But I don't pretend that those who disagree with me are somehow 'unAustralian'. What is REALLY 'unAustralian' is to call someone 'unAustralian' over a difference of opinion. |
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