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redfoxrising 14-Jan-22, 05:29	Hypothetical but Could Trump beat Biden in 2024 Former President Donald Trump's lead over President Joe Biden has widened—suggesting that he is well positioned to defeat his political rival if they face off again in the 2024 presidential race, new polling shows. Biden has confirmed that he plans to seek reelection in 2024, despite significant speculation that the 79-year-old will step aside and allow another Democrat to run. The president's poll numbers have plummeted over the past several months. Trump has not officially announced another presidential campaign but has consistently hinted at the possibility.
thumper 14-Jan-22, 17:25	I guess it depends on who counts the 'votes'.
redfoxrising 14-Jan-22, 17:34	How true stay tuned till 2024 for the count If counted today I believe there would be a new POTUS no matter who the current President runs against. I find it sad that our democracy has multiple political parties but there are just Democrats and Republicans. What would happen if hypothetically a independent candidate wins in 2024? Is this even possible? Has it ever happened? Just saying as I know people who did not want to vote for Biden or Trump this last election.
thumper 14-Jan-22, 17:49	The last time a 3rd party candidate made a credible run was H. Ross Perot in '92. I suspect Clinton may make another run.
redfoxrising 14-Jan-22, 17:59	I agree as Clinton seems most reasonable for her party. Would that make Bill first HE ?, not saying lady, if she is successful in becoming President again. it would depend on the vote count, I know we will be discussing all this as 2024 is almost here. And who knows there may be another 3rd party candidate to make it a true race.
redfoxrising 14-Jan-22, 18:06	If not Clinton If President Biden does not run for re-election in 2024, here is a list of possible Democratic candidates that could run to replace him (order based on 2024 Democratic Primary polls): Kamala Harris (Vice President of the United States) Kamala Harris 2024 Democratic Candidate Michelle Obama (former First Lady of the United States) Michelle Obama 2024 Democratic Candidate Bernie Sanders (U.S. senator from Vermont) Bernie Sanders 2024 Democratic Candidate Pete Buttigieg (Secretary of Transportation) Pete Buttigieg 2024 Democratic Candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (U.S. Representative from New York’s 14th district) AOC 2024 Democratic Candidate Don't forget all the others... Elizabeth Warren (U.S. senator from Massachusets) Elizabeth Warren 2024 Democratic Candidate Stacey Abrams (Former Georgia gubernatorial candidate) Stacey Abrams 2024 Democratic Candidate Corey Booker (U.S. senator from New Jersey) Corey Booker 2024 Democratic Candidate Amy Klobuchar (U.S. senator from Minnesota) Amy Klobuchar 2024 Democratic Candidate Gavin Newsom (Governor of California) Gavin Newsom 2024 Democratic Candidate
thumper 14-Jan-22, 18:10	Actually Perot had a very good chance to win but sabotaged himself by stepping out of the race then back in a couple months later, squandering what he had gained. After that he and his VP choice Admiral Stockdale were regularly savaged by the media.
redfoxrising 14-Jan-22, 18:23	I remember I agree, If that happens again the candidate needs to be all in in 2024
thumper 14-Jan-22, 18:51	I think someone like former U.S. Representative for Hawaii's 2nd congressional district Tulsi Gabbard would be a fine Democratic choice though I doubt she would accept. www.civilbeat.org
zorroloco 15-Jan-22, 08:51	Sure Anyone can win. America has lost its mind
redfoxrising 25-Jan-22, 17:48	Donald Trump leads 2024 polls with Ron DeSantis in distant second Andrew Feinberg January 25, 2022, 10:05 AM· Just think? Americans are crazy right Z? Donald Trump 45th President of the United States Ron DeSantis Ron DeSantis American politician Explore the topics mentioned in this article Just over a year after a mob of his supporters stormed the US Capitol to prevent Congress from certifying his successor's 2020 election victory, a clear majority of Republican voters want to give former president Donald Trump another four years in the White House. According to a new Harvard/Harris poll, Mr Trump would garner support from 57 per cent of GOP primary voters in a primary matchup, with Florida governor Ron DeSantis and former vice president Mike Pence far behind at 12 and 11 per cent, respectively. The poll results, which were first reported by The Hill, are yet another indicator that Mr Trump's tumultuous four years in the White House – which ended with Republicans losing the presidency, House and Senate – haven't dulled enthusiasm for the ex-reality TV star in GOP circles. Mr Trump has not yet formally announced plans to mount a third campaign for the presidency, but he is reportedly mulling the matter over because a run for the White House would potentially help in his efforts to keep law enforcement investigations into his eponymous real estate business and other matters at arm's length. But if he ultimately decides to bow out of presidential politics, it is Mr DeSantis and Mr Pence who would be thrown into a knock-down, drag-out primary fight to succeed him as the GOP standard-bearer.
stalhandske 25-Jan-22, 20:04	<Mr Trump has not yet formally announced plans to mount a third campaign for the presidency, but he is reportedly mulling the matter over because a run for the White House would potentially help in his efforts to keep law enforcement investigations into his eponymous real estate business and other matters at arm's length. > Isn't this a rather interesting motivation to run for the position of President of the United States of America?
redfoxrising 26-Jan-22, 18:27	It's a truthful statement. He has the followers, He has experience, I do find it interesting! There are others that are motivated and hypothetically all could be running for the POTUS.
jbphillips 29-Jan-22, 09:40	<Mr Trump has not yet formally announced plans to mount a third campaign for the presidency, but he is reportedly mulling the matter over because a run for the White House would potentially help in his efforts to keep law enforcement investigations into his eponymous real estate business and other matters at arm's length. > >Isn't this a rather interesting motivation to run for the position of President of the United States of America?>> That is the reporter's POV, not Trump's stated reasoning. The bias is thick.
redfoxrising 29-Jan-22, 09:59	Good explanation Brian That is the reporter's POV, not Trump's stated reasoning. The bias is thick. That is the answer to stalhandske's question. Thanks for looking at the thread and bringing our attention to the media posted by the reporter.
jonheck 29-Jan-22, 19:07	Redfoxrising Were we to get trumps stated reasoning we would be foolish to regard it as anything other than a lie. The reporters’s POV is a more reliable and likely statement of trumps reasoning. If trump chose to not run, crooks like deSantis and numerous other potential GOP nominees would be happy to trade a pardon for his support.
stalhandske 29-Jan-22, 20:58	Brian & redfox I fully realise that that was the reporter's view. I never said otherwise. I sense that you exclude it as a posible reason for joining the election campaign?
redfoxrising 30-Jan-22, 12:25	I'm in agreement with what was reported. I can see Trump running again. Trump's platform will be the reason he runs or not. Jon I could see him giving his support to one of the other Republican candidates. Running mates will also be a consideration. Pence for President or DeSantis. Time will tell I guess.
redfoxrising 30-Jan-22, 12:29	Ron Desantis for 2024 Former President Donald Trump held another "Save America Rally" on Saturday in Conroe, Texas. Trump has not announced if he will run again but hinted at taking back the White House. The National Governors Association's Republican chair said he doesn't think Trump should run again. Despite not formally announcing his candidacy, former President Donald Trump strongly hinted at a presidential re-election bid during his "Save America Rally" on Saturday night in Conroe, Texas. "And in 2024, we are going to take back that beautiful, beautiful house that happens to be white, that is so magnificent, and that we all love. We are going to take back the White House," Trump said during his speech. Throughout the rally, the former president took jabs at Democratic leadership and stuck to his usual talking points about issues like immigration and COVID-19, which he read from prompters and prepared comments. If Trump does decide to run in 2024, he faces an uphill battle to become the Republican presidential nominee. Recent polling by the Marquette University Law School found that found that 43% of adults nationwide would support President Joe Biden if the 2024 presidential election were held today, while 33% would vote for Trump, according to The Hill. However, Biden polled slightly worse in a hypothetical race against Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a potential Republican contender for the nomination. Asa Hutchinson, who serves as the Republican chairman of the National Governors Association, said on Saturday that he does not think Trump should lead the party or country as president. Instead, Hutchinson said Republicans should consider "different voices" within their party.
jonheck 30-Jan-22, 13:10	Redfoxrising <DeSantis for 2024> Surely the GOP could do better than the clown down in Florida. They should dump trump, and announce that the bar has been re-set someplace will above their large numbers of deSantis types that somewhere got the idea that they were presidential caliber types.
redfoxrising 30-Jan-22, 13:58	The Republicans Candidates Donald J. Trump (45th president of the United States) Donald J. Trump 2024 Candidate Ron DeSantis (Governor of Florida) Ron DeSantis 2024 Candidate Mike Pence (Former vice president of the United States) Mike Pence 2024 Candidate Chris Christie (Former governor of New Jersey) Chris Christie 2024 Candidate Donald Trump, Jr. (Son of Donald Trump, 45th President) Donald Trump, Jr. 2024 GOP Candidate <------------------------------------- Nikki Haley (Former ambassador to the United Nations, former SC Governor) Nikki Haley 2024 Candidate Ted Cruz (U.S. senator from Texas) Ted Cruz 2024 Candidate Kristi Noem (Governor of South Dakota) Kristi Noem 2024 Candidate Mitt Romney (U.S. senator from Utah) Mitt Romney 2024 Presidential Candidate Marco Rubio (U.S. senator from Florida) Marco Rubio 2024 Candidate Liz Cheney (U.S. senator from Wyoming) Liz Cheney 2024 Candidate Dan Crenshaw (U.S. representative from Texas) Dan Crenshaw 2024 Candidate Tim Scott (U.S. senator from South Carolina) Tim Scott 2024 Candidate Tom Cotton (U.S. senator from Arkansas) Tom Cotton 2024 Candidate Greg Abbott (Governor of Texas) Greg Abbott 2024 Candidate Larry Hogan (Governor of Maryland) Larry Hogan 2024 Candidate Rick Scott (U.S. senator from Florida) Rick Scott 2024 Candidate Mike DeWine (Governor of Ohio) Mike DeWine 2024 Candidate Joni Ernst (U.S. senator from Iowa) Joni Ernst 2024 Candidate Josh Hawley (U.S. senator from Missouri) Josh Hawley 2024 Candidate Doug Ducey (Governor of Arizona) Doug Ducey 2024 Candidate Mike Lee (U.S. senator from Utah) Mike Lee 2024 Candidate Mike Pompeo (Former secretary of state) Mike Pompeo 2024 Candidate
jonheck 31-Jan-22, 02:41	Redfoxing Thanks🤢! Not all , but there is a lot of clowns in that list, and worse.
ace-of-aces 21-Feb-22, 21:58	Put Trump in jail. The problem is solved automatically. redfoxrising 14-Jan-22, 05:29 [ report abuse ] Hypothetical but Could Trump beat Biden in 2024 Former President Donald Trump's lead over President Joe Biden has widened—suggesting that he is well positioned to defeat his political rival if they face off again in the 2024 presidential race, new polling shows. ------------- Redfox raised a good question. Recent poll showed Biden's approval rating is plummeting. Trump is still the formidable force to be reckoned with in the next 2024 election. Democrats are trying to put Trump in jail several times but so far, they have not succeeded in doing so. Trump is the only president who was impeached twice in US history, but he survived. Mueller investigation of Trump's Russian collusion hoax lasted over 2 years but could not find strong evidence to prosecute him. January 6 insurrection charge against Trump is still ongoing. Over 500 Trump supporters are still in filthy DC jail over one year. The supporters claimed that putting in DC jail is tantamount to torture so that Democrats can extract treasonous charge against Trump and put him in jail. When nothing works out, they check his tax records. It is like trying to find a needle in haystack, but it does not matter for Democrats because they have plenty of time over 2 years with a bunch of lawyers. Recently, they found classified documents at his home in Mar a largo, FL. He is not supposed to have classified documents at his private home and is violating the law of the land. The judge ruled that Trump, his daughter Ivanka and son Eric could not refuse the subpoena and testifying under oath by invoking by 5th Amendment of the US constitution for their business dealings before he became president. youtu.be Please check CNN and MSNBC news channels. Broadcasting Trump news is the daily job for them until he is indicted and sent him to jail.
ace-of-aces 25-Feb-22, 09:21	Good news for Trump ! youtu.be Two top Trump prosecutors who are investigating his alleged tax fraud resign. According to ABC news above, it is unlikely that Trump will be prosecuted for tax fraud. Apparently, there is not enough evidence to charge him or similar to Russian collusion hoax if the lawyers falsely accused Trump, it could backfire, and they will be the ones who would go to jail.
jbphillips 26-Feb-22, 06:39	Deleted by brigadecommander on 19-Apr-22, 18:43.
stalhandske 26-Feb-22, 07:32	jbphillips 26 Feb 06:39 I can't refrain from wondering about this harsh statement. Who are the representatives of 'Deep State' who should go to prison, and for what reason (crime). I mean, USA still has a judiciary system that won't imprison individuals for no reason. So, in order to make any sense of your post here, please name at least some individuals and the crimes you accuse them of. If you won't or cannot do that, I think you'd better shut your mouth. From the second half of your post it is obvious that you don't even know or understand what communism is or what communists are. Finally, what credibility do you have to diagnose President Biden with Altzheimer's disease? If that photo posted on your chess site is of you at the age of 61, I would recommend you to check with your doctors about your own medical status, rather than make ad hoc diagnoses of others.
brigadecommander 26-Feb-22, 08:28	Deleted by brigadecommander on 26-Feb-22, 11:43.
thumper 26-Feb-22, 10:00	BC I see you're now a Mod here.
brigadecommander 26-Feb-22, 11:27	Deleted by brigadecommander on 26-Feb-22, 11:42.
brigadecommander 26-Feb-22, 11:28	I will try to be fare.
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