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lord_shiva 04-Dec-22, 00:25	Traitor Groper Calls for Suspension of Constitution “Groper calls for the termination of the Constitution in Truth Social post.” www.cnn.com
lord_shiva 04-Dec-22, 16:48	Lindsey Graham “He is a race baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot.” Who was Lindsey talking about?
lord_shiva 04-Dec-22, 16:50	Ted Cruz “He is a pathological liar.” Do you thin Groper has changed a bit since “Lyin’” Ted pegged the scumbag?
thumper 04-Dec-22, 17:08	LS Are you a scumbag or just a pathological liar? Just curious.
lord_shiva 04-Dec-22, 18:34	Thumper Have you stopped beating your mistress? I never sexually assaulted women, boasted of it, or paid porn stars I had raw dogged for their silence, MAGA. The difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberals actually do have moral boundaries they will not cross. Republicans lip service morality with a bull horn, but action speaks louder than words. When push comes to shove they abandon morality for power every time.
lord_shiva 04-Dec-22, 18:36	If you did not enthusiastically vote for the sleaze ball who porked a porn star bearing uncanny resemblance to his own daughter, does that make you a RINO?
victoriasas 04-Dec-22, 18:57	<<The difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberals actually do have moral boundaries they will not cross.>> This is true of all liberals? <<Republicans lip service morality with a bull horn, but action speaks louder than words. When push comes to shove they abandon morality for power every time.>> This is true of all Republicans?
thumper 04-Dec-22, 19:30	LS <... liberals actually do have moral boundaries they will not cross.> Really? Where are those boundaries BTW? Sexually mutilating children seem to be well within those moral boundaries so where are those boundaries set? Hmmm? You already know that I'm not a Trump supporter but don't let that get in the way of your 'spin'. I do have a problem with the constant childish and juvenile name-calling though they seem to be all the rage in the circles you like to hang out in. I really don't think a slime flinging fest is what Redfox envisioned when he created this club.
lord_shiva 04-Dec-22, 20:11	Yes I know you are not a Groper supporter. Therefore I was not talking about you. Vic, all generalizations are bad. LOL. Lyin’ Ted. Crazy Bernie. Crooked Hillary. Little Rubio. Miss Piggy Alicia Machado. You wink and nod when Groper spoils political discourse, but berate me for adopting the standard set by the man America deems worthy of our highest office? Get real.
lord_shiva 04-Dec-22, 20:12	Nothing Wrong with Circumcision It is all in your fevered imagination, Thumper.
thumper 04-Dec-22, 20:14	Trump isn't a member of this club, much less a moderator.
lord_shiva 04-Dec-22, 20:18	When as a joke Al Franken pantomimed honking a woman’s breast, he was forced to resign. Groper openly boasts of mauling pudendum and Republicans shrug it off like power is their only concern. We see nothing is too far they won’t swallow like Debbie Does Dallas. Except actual moral integrity. Let a Republican like Liz speak out against Groper’s unlawful, corrupt excesses, and she gets the jackboot. If it quacks like a duck and lays eggs like a duck and goose steps like Kanye or Nick at a Groper dinner…
lord_shiva 04-Dec-22, 20:20	No But Groper IS the topic of this thread. Feel free to defend by deflection glorious hero about whom no negative word may ever be said. I doubt Reagan would have kept his commandment had he known the subject was Groper.
victoriasas 04-Dec-22, 20:20	<<LOL. Lyin’ Ted. Crazy Bernie. Crooked Hillary. Little Rubio. Miss Piggy Alicia Machado.>> You forgot Pocohontas. This scene was a classic and had Sen. Elizabeth Warren sputtering with rage after it happened. Too funny. youtu.be
thumper 04-Dec-22, 20:28	His name is Donald Trump. Your insistance on calling him any number of childish pejoratives names is more telling of you than him. Trump talks about himself often but you talk about him even more than he does.
thumper 04-Dec-22, 22:06	Victor I think that snippet is embarrassing not funny. Those men, our elders, should have been honored with all respect and held the spotlight in high esteem. Instead, Trump's comments made them second to a political backhanded insult against one of his opponents. Bad form.
bobspringett 04-Dec-22, 22:13	Thumper 22:06 Well said, Thumper!
victoriasas 04-Dec-22, 22:33	@Thumper They were all honored with all respect and esteem. That Pocohontas comment was a few seconds out of what was probably a 20- or 30-minute event.
dmaestro 04-Dec-22, 22:45	Trump only said what many conservatives wanted to say. Blaming Trump should never excuse the conservatives that supported, excused, minimized, claimed Democrats were just as bad or stayed silent.
thumper 04-Dec-22, 22:52	Victor You remember the insult but what are those men's names and why were they there?
victoriasas 04-Dec-22, 23:29	@Thumper I don’t remember their names but I know they were code breakers during World War II. But think how much attention that ceremony and those men would have gotten from the press if it hadn’t been for Trump’s Pocahontas remark. I’m not even sure the media would have reported on it.
thumper 04-Dec-22, 23:59	Victor www.newsweek.com That's a good point. Those Navajo code talkers were Marines during WWII. The Marine vet standing next to Trump is Peter MacDonald. I can't easily find the other two Marine's names.
dmaestro 05-Dec-22, 12:08	www.cnn.com Let’s be clear. There was no need for Trump to demean the ceremony and insult Warren with a known offensive term to Native Americans. It would be like using the N word for any reason at a ceremony honoring blacks. Trump’s “special people” remark was also ridiculous pandering. The picture of Andrew Jackson a slaver whose genocidal acts are unforgivable in the back says it all. If he cares about Native Americans he would have changed that. In fairness to Warren family lore about ancient indian ancestors is often inaccurate and in fact she does have Native American ancestry, just too little to matter for demographics. www.factcheck.org So Trump lied when he claimed she had no native blood and made it all about him, but as usual conservatives like Thumper twist it. Thumper just is a poster boy for that mindset.
dmaestro 05-Dec-22, 12:19	Thumper just illustrates the mindset. It’s normal for right wing extremists. www.yahoo.com. They just can’t get it their minds don’t work thar way. Too different…
victoriasas 05-Dec-22, 12:23	Warren played her alleged Native American heritage to the hilt, identifying herself as a Native American on forms and even authoring a book on Cherokee recipes. Pick 10 people at random in her state and probably nine have more Native American blood than she does.
victoriasas 05-Dec-22, 12:30	Apparently her Cherokee recipes also had been plagiarized. <<Massachusetts Democratic Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren is yet again in hot water after new allegations have surfaced that she plagiarized her 'Cherokee' recipes in the book Pow Wow Chow from the New York Times and other publications.>> www.dailymail.co.uk
thumper 05-Dec-22, 12:42	It's well documented that Warren's native blood measures in at 0. something %. Yes she claimed many benifits presenting herself as Native American even though she isn't. Still that wasn't the time or place for Trump to take a political potshot. That said, it's interesting to note that Trump was roundly excoriated (rightfully so IMO) by the political left for that thoughtless and disrespectful comment while Warren is given a pass by those very same people for her deliberate and decades long deception. Which is more disrespectful?
lord_shiva 05-Dec-22, 13:00	Deleted by lord_shiva on 05-Dec-22, 13:01.
lord_shiva 05-Dec-22, 13:02	Pocahontas She never claimed any benefit. She had been told, as many others (myself included) that she had native blood. It registered MORE than 1%, which it would have to if she had any. 50, 25, 12.5, 6.25, 3.125, 1.56…. That is seven generations in and much earlier starts to put one before the pilgrims. The school she worked for received no benefit for her stating she had NA ancestry. The claims otherwise are common right wing lies. Furthermore, she agreed this was improper and quit marking that box. The tribe determines who is a member of the tribe, and ancestry is not a primary consideration. It is to Europeans, but not to Native Americans. She acknowledged she cannot claim membership of any tribe. T****’s “Pocahontas” insult of her was racist bigotry writ large, and I thank you for noting that. My previous post was hastily written before I finished reading what you wrote.
lord_shiva 05-Dec-22, 13:12	Groper’s Lies October 2018 Tweet: Pocahontas (the bad version), sometimes referred to as Elizabeth Warren, is getting slammed. She took a bogus DNA test and it showed that she may be 1/1024, far less than the average American. Now Cherokee Nation denies her, “DNA test is useless.” Even they don’t want her. Phony! Groper is a bald faced liar, through and through. His number is yanked from his smelly, greasy recess. There are 5 million native Americans in the US. Assuming (incorrectly) all are “pure blood,” the average American has 5/310 = 1.6% native blood. At six generations Elizabeth clocks in at double that. Seven she pretty much breaks even. That portion of Groper’s claim is potentially true.
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