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royal_knight1 31-Jul-25, 22:01	Manipulation In the last club when we got rid of catseye and paradiesvogel did someone suspected migeri as he was a bit suspect and he left his team. Well he is with czech republic. Can anyone put me right if i have got the wrong person.
wasatch 31-Jul-25, 22:07	We also got rid of Stormtracker.
dynamic-dv 31-Jul-25, 22:56	@ royalknight1 You are correct.
lord_shiva 02-Aug-25, 15:05	Player Notes I make player notes on all culprits. For Migeri, 05-Aug-24) Rating manipulation game Resigns with free queen game Let’s play If it was just these two we could chalk it up to bad hair day, but it was absolutely an overt pattern.
wasatch 02-Aug-25, 18:48	@Lord_shiva If you have a list, I have one as well…care to comparison notes?
lord_shiva 02-Aug-25, 20:28	List I didn’t compile a list so much as I just used the user notes which are preserved even after name changes.
saguaro 03-Aug-25, 06:16	What are "user notes" please?
lord_shiva 03-Aug-25, 06:28	Notes… Hide extra stats » Games in progress (excluding private games) » Past game history » Rivals » Past live game history » Challenge to a game » Add to ignore list » Send a private message » Add to friends list » Notes… Click Notes… and put details about the person there. What openings they prefer, or information relevant to them—such as “this person threw a queen in bd=xxxxxx in a blatantly obvious effort to manipulate their rating.” Personal notes help serve as a reference for people you play more than once.
lord_shiva 03-Aug-25, 06:38	Notes… For example, I might learn you were a former COBOL programmer. I know you were in software development, but not what language. I could put that in your notes for future reference—a topic to discuss in game chat should we ever play. I worked for the same company for 35 years massively improving their ERP software, written in COBOL. I too do gardening, specializing in dill pickles, crab apple jelly, plum jam, and I’m working on a pie cherry tree if the deer will quit molesting it.
saguaro 03-Aug-25, 07:07	Thanks! I had missed that! I had a reading knowledge of COBOL on one positiin but never wrote any code. I wrote a lot of scientific programs in FORTRAN, PL-I and BASIC. Your garden specialties are some of my favorites that my Mom & Grandma made. Aside from a cherry tomato in a flowerpot, we do flowers. A constant battle vs the bunnies!
lord_shiva 03-Aug-25, 09:42	Bunnies We suffer feral bunnies. They molest my tomatoes too. My grandmother taught me how to do the pickles. Pick them fresh in the early morning while they remain crisp from the night air. Wash, pack loosely. My dad explained that the dill head, weed, stalk—it all goes in and then add more dill because you can’t get too much. I have found that two cayenne or one jalapeño (I grow both in a small greenhouse) add just the right amount of heat for zing. I usually pitch in a few garlic cloves and celery seed. I eschew pickling spice.
wasatch 03-Aug-25, 13:05	@lord_shiva: your user notes idea is excellent. I’ll start doing this as well, much better than a list which I tend to lose.
saguaro 03-Aug-25, 14:41	My Grandma put in the whole dill too. In a huge crockery container in her tiny kitchen. I loved the fragrance when I lifted the cover; ditto for her sauerkraut.
royal_knight1 03-Aug-25, 21:27	L S / Saguaro You try Kangaroos and Ants and the odd Emu. The ants like our fig tree it's a race to get to the figs first. Kangaroos eat my ground cover during the early hours and all they do is eat then poo then it's clean up time some big Kangaroos are 6ft tall not to mess with. One day i'm in the front garden and out of the bush runs an Emu heading my way i jumped straight into action and ran in the house. We all have problems with wild life a battle of wits. Going back to migeri and others i keep them on my ignore list so i can keep an eye on them. Geoff.
saguaro 04-Aug-25, 01:29	It would be nice if you could view all of your Notes on a single page.
royal_knight1 04-Aug-25, 21:20	Saguaro When i put a player on ignore i click on them and the notes are there letting me know why there on ignore.
baddeeds 05-Aug-25, 14:21	even though I'm not taking sides and don't have anyone on my ignore list, this is a smart way of doing things, Geoff.
mikemate 11-Aug-25, 22:37	Manipulation? A good way to determine if a player is a manipulator is to look at his/her team game rating vs current rating, If those rating are close and especially if the team game rating is higher than current rating, that is a manipulator.
royal_knight1 13-Aug-25, 23:05	cyber-1 has left the knights templar and resigned 22 ladder and team games leaving him with only 1 his rating has gone from 1641 to 1400 manipulation could be round the corner. I shall not offer him any matches.
dynamic-dv 14-Aug-25, 00:22	did he leave or was he pushed?
saguaro 14-Aug-25, 06:38	Deleted by saguaro on 28-Aug-25, 20:17.
royal_knight1 14-Aug-25, 18:05	Deleted by royal_knight1 on 14-Aug-25, 18:07.
royal_knight1 14-Aug-25, 18:14	reported cyber1 has reported me to GK regards my last post at the time i had not noticed he was leaving GK i thought he could be a possible manipulator. The following forum post made by royal_knight1 on 13-Aug-25, 23:05 has been reported by cyber-1 with the following note: I am leaving GK because like in this thread people are manipulating me. Think about what has been said about me here and consider that I am not in a team and I am in the process of leaving GK . If the reported messages violate GameKnot's Rules and Policies, please take the appropriate action as soon as possible — delete the offending post and warn or remove the users involved.
wasatch 14-Aug-25, 18:49	It will be interesting to see what, if anything, GK does… …my vote is: they’ll do nothing.
mikemate 14-Aug-25, 19:28	My post about rating manipulation in this thread had nothing to do with Jimmy. I do not believe he has been manipulating. There is a fine line between manipulating and "playing harder in team games". Jimmy is a rare individual in that he really enjoyed doing team matches.
saguaro 14-Aug-25, 20:08	We should have a new thread (or a Miscellaneous one) for posts such as the one about Jimmy, rather than mixing it in here.
wasatch 14-Aug-25, 20:13	Ok, everyone is talking about “Jimmy”…who is he?
mikemate 14-Aug-25, 20:21	Jimmy is cyber-1
dynamic-dv 14-Aug-25, 23:10	@mikemate sacrificing your Queen on move 3 and then resigning doesn't ring true with playing harder in team games!
dynamic-dv 14-Aug-25, 23:14	Bang ~ Bang I hear the sound of a loose cannon in the distance
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