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lord_shiva
27-Mar-19, 08:26

Steele Dossier
You never tire of pushing these lies.

The dossier was started by Republicans, not Hillary. There was never anything phony about it. Groper alone calls it a hoax, and Groper is an egregious liar, who got away with collusion.

The investigation began after George Popadopoulis boasted to London diplomats Russia had dirt on Hillary. It had nothing to do with the dossier, though when the dossier was turned over to them BY JOHN MCCAIN, not Hillary, they chose to look into some of the allegations for which they had corroborating evidence.

Carter Page had been investigated for being a Russian asset PRIOR to joining Groper's campaign. Paul Manafort gave Russian agents polling data. Various members of Groper's campaign and subsequent staff lied about Russian contacts. Why? Groper himself lied about the purpose of the Trump Tower meeting, an obstruction of justice.
ace-of-aces
27-Mar-19, 08:54

I told you so that Trump is a victim of the Deep State.
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Randy Travis's song is very inspirational. He appears to be telling the truth that he really loves his sweet heart. The analogy is similar to my message. Please review my messages again from the beginning of the thread. When I said that Trump is the victim of the DS, most of you ridiculed me.

You don't need a rocket scientist to find out the truth. Democrats are so blinded by hatred that either they don't see or just ignore the truth. It is crystal clear that there is no Russian collusion either by Trump or his associates.

Unless Trump haters have a little bit of humility and acknowledge the problem so that we can correct it, history can repeat itself. The presidential position is not limited to GOP candidates only. Suppose, a Democrat president is elected and if the GOP presidential candidate loser will do the same thing again by using phony dossier and FISA abuse, how will the law abiding and civilized citizens feel ? The answer is obvious. I don't need to elaborate.

There is no question that not only for himself but also for the sake of all the future presidents, Trump wants to prevent the history repeating itself again but in order to combat the Democrats' corruption, he has to find out 1. Who are the criminals behind the DS ? 2. How did it originate or birth of the DS ? 3 . To what level of the DOJ, FBI and previous administration were involved in this sinister scheme ?


thumper
27-Mar-19, 09:38

www.youtube.com
MUELLER REPORT: Everything You NEED To Know!
lord_shiva
27-Mar-19, 12:12

Indictments
Mueller has turned over much of the evidence he gathered to jurisdictions where Comrade Groper cannot pardon himself.

You'll see. If Mueller's report "exonerates" Groper, which Barr says it doesn't, then why is Mitch McConnell refusing to release it? Why is Devin Nunes, the former chairman of the House Intelligence committee, requesting the report be burned?

LOL. Groper sycophants suffer TDS, a condition whereby they imagine the asshat is even remotely competent to perform his duties.
ace-of-aces
30-Mar-19, 11:05

Is Obama behind HRC's Deep state ?
msgfocus.conservativedailyalerts.com/q/1HpWYoa3uiDQzApKxMumt/wv
The Left and Deep State's coup d'etat is falling apart. They tried to remove President Trump from office. They tried to manufacture a criminal case against him to undo the 2016 election. They failed.
We know who the major players were: James Comey, James Clapper, John Brennan, Loretta Lynch, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, and Lisa Page. They concocted the Russia investigation out of thin air to try to destroy the President. These people are traitors.
But now, we can add another name to that list: Barack Obama.
Senator Rand Paul is blowing the whistle. This week, after talking with sources in the intelligence agencies, Rand Paul came out and demanded a Congressional investigation into former-President Barack Obama and his role in all of this.
"Time for Congress to investigate. What did Obama know and when? How did this hoax go on for so long unabated?" Paul declared.
Mueller's report is clear: there is no evidence of collusion. None whatsoever. And yet, the former-President was directly involved in overseeing this witch hunt from the very beginning.
We're already seeing establishment Republicans trying to sweep this under the rug. Now that Trump has been vindicated, the GOP wants to just let Obama's crimes go.
No!
Lock them all up! Send your instant message to Congress right now and FORCE them to prosecute and arrest all of these Deep State and Obama criminals before it's too late!
Here is why this is important. We know from released text messages that Andrew McCabe and Lisa Page set up a White House briefing when they were launching their coup d'etat "insurance policy." We also know that Brennan, Clapper, and Comey conspired to make sure that the fake news dossier got added into the intelligence report and the President's Daily Briefs.
As you remember, the media outlets didn't report on the dossier at first. They reported that Comey had briefed Trump on the dossier. News outlets knew that the dossier was fake news. That is why they sat on it for a year. It was only after Comey started treating it as legitimate by briefing Trump and Obama that the news media was able to start covering it.
The whole thing was a sham from the start.
But none of this could have happened without the Obama White House's blessing. We know that the White House demanded a briefing before the witch hunt was allowed to get started. And since the investigation went on for over two years without any evidence of collusion, we know that the Obama White House gave the DOJ and FBI the green light.
And since the witch hunt's progress was featured President Obama's daily intelligence briefings, we know that Obama knew all about it and wanted to know updates.
Rand Paul is leading the charge on this. He is promising to block legislation until the GOP leadership approves an investigation into the Obama White House and their role in the Trump-Russia witch hunt.
But he needs your help to get the investigation off the ground!
Lock them all up! Send your instant message to Congress right now and FORCE them to prosecute and arrest all of these Deep State and Obama criminals before it's too late!
We now know that this treason went all the way to the top.
The GOP leadership never wanted you to find this out. They tried to seal all of the testimony these traitors gave Congress last year. Thanks to Rep. Doug Collins releasing these transcripts and Senator Rand Paul's digging, we now know that the Obama White House had a hand in this coup attempt.
This is treason. This is sedition.
And these criminals must be held accountable!
Lock them all up! Send your instant message to Congress right now and FORCE them to prosecute and arrest all of these Deep State and Obama criminals before it's too late!
Sincerely,
Joe Otto
Conservative Daily

Tell Your Friends!
Make sure your friends read this too...we need every voice we can get to change the status quo in Washington!
apatzer
30-Mar-19, 12:04

Ace of Aces
If a deep state does exist it began during WW2.

Hillary Clinton and co. Are the Republican's Бугимен Baba Yaga.

Trump and co. Are the Democrats Бугимен Baba Yaga.

Welcome to the duelopoly. What looks like two opposing systems is actually one system and the system is working as intended.

The law is for the peasants not for Prince's.
apatzer
30-Mar-19, 12:18

However I must say...
During Obama's time he never had to hire a lawyer. Trump's Lawyer's have Lawyer's. Obama's administration not a single person was indicted, had a trial or went to prison. He is a man who has faithfully Married (as far as I know) for 26 years. Without one hooker, pornstar, Playboy bunny or mistress scandal. All Manor of lies we're spread about him. Like he was going to be president for life and destroy America. he didn't even as much as mention or Joke about that. That can not be said about Trump.

Now don't get me wrong. I vehemently disagree with some of the decisions his administration made. Especially as it pertains to the 2008 financial collapse. Those Banker's responsible should have been tried for treason against the American people. What they did was knowing and orchestrated. But Obama's Banker is none other than Jamie Dimond.

Then there were the arms distribution to cartels. That did not start with Obama, be he sure as hell finished it.

No matter who is president these things will continue. Trump also wants (or has) done away with the drone fatality reporting of collateral damaged. So now you won't know. At least Obama made them report it.

But hey Obama's (mistaken) comment called a lie by many. You can keep your own doctor. Outweighs by far the 9000 lies, falsehoods, distortions and misrepresentations made by our current, money loving, greedy, idolitor, slandering,devisve, swindler,thief, narcissisic lying POS of a president. Funny how that works out on paper.
apatzer
30-Mar-19, 12:21

Also
Obama going to flint Michigan and pretending to drink water, while he barely wet his lips. Is beyond the pale. He should be deeply ashamed of himself. In fact all of our politions should be servers some freash water cold Water straight from the tap, from the poorest part of flint Michigan.
the-sigularity
30-Mar-19, 14:48

I am not a great fan of Trump but he deserves equal justice, more so for being a president. At this point, I am compelled to believe that Mueller's investigation is nothing but a politically motivated HRC's Deep State, witch hunt. Joe Otto
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This fellow is hallucinating, I wonder what kind of narcotics he is consuming.
And those that read what he wrote seem to be losing a grip on reality.

The person that is, and has committed criminal offenses and has gotten away
with those, is DJT.

Barr is trying his best to defend him, but cannot find enough evidence to prove
that the investigation, which has put REPUBLICANS in jail, for violations does
not exonerate DJT.
He tried his best to convince people that DJT is an angel sent from god, but he
knew he would be put in jail for lying, because when the judicial system gets to
interview him, he would have to admit that he lied.

So DJT is far from being off the hook, he will still have to answer to some serious
charges that will be surfacing in the near future.
Even if they show that DJT has committed violations, I believe he will still be
selected once again by those people that selected him in the first place, because
we have a corrupt system of government that they are mocking by introducing
the constitution with the PREAMBLE, which reads:

WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES, IN ORDER TO FORM A MORE PERFECT
UNION, ESTABLISH JUSTICE, INSURE DOMESTIC TRANQUILITY, PROVIDE FOR THE
COMMON DEFENSE, AND SECURE THE BLESSINGS OF LIBERTY TO OURSELVES
AND OUR POSTERITY, DO ORDAIN AND ESTABLISH THIS CONSTITUTION FOR THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

The firs part is to ESTABLISH JUSTICE.
Justice for the people, not for a group of politicians who decide what they like for
their own benefit and be able to do the unjust acts, such as taking the money that
is taken from the people by force (law) and use it as they wish, like making themselves
filthy rich, without consulting the people if they deserve the money they take and
increase every year at their pleasure.

INSURE DOMESTIC TRANQUILITY
Some people may not understand that these means that the constitution has placed
importance on keeping the people with a sense of peace. a peace which we have not
enjoyed because we are doomed to be compelled to be under a rule which is not of our
choice, but the choice of those that have restructured the system to select whomever
fits their purpose, or benefits them, not the people, as they are supposed to serve.

PROVIDE FOR THE COMMON DEFENSE
Not to be utilized as police officers, or aid in the construction of walls, or fences, nor
apprehending criminals which other departments have the responsibility of enforcing.
Or to act as law enforcement for world problems that do not concern our country.

SECURE THE BLESSINGS OF LIBERTY
Insure that people are not put in jail for speaking out, or writing articles of interest
to inform the people about wrongful acts committed by those elected officials in our
government.

TO OURSELVES AND OUR POSTERITY
This means that the blessings of liberty are not limited in time for those that had existed
during the time the PREAMBLE was written, but for all future generations.

DO ORDAIN AND ESTABLISH THIS CONSTITUTION
Meaning that the constitution should be made and obeyed by the original order,
and established, means that the Constitution should be adopted into law,
and not changed to benefit those people that are elected servants, but in the best
interest of the people.

FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
This is not for the benefit of people that are servants of the country only, regardless
of which position they occupy. It is intended to serve as written law, to be obeyed
by all those that are elected to serve all the people.

As a result of disobedience to adhere to the constitution, we now have any person
that has been SELECTED in violation of our constitution, to change, or make any
new laws that they decide change, whether it is to show that these SELECTED
people have absolute control to do whatever they, individually want to place and
make into law even if it is to show that they can, to satisfy their ego, and display
power that has been given to them by those politicians, not the people.
This is a gross error showing negligence in common sense and responsibility to
the people of this country by politicians that are supposed to act in a conscientious
and proper manner.

This last selection of a man that is not fit to serve the people, but instead acts
to feed his own egotistical pleasure, should be an example of how wrong it is to
maintain a system that defeats the purpose of what our constitutional order was
intended to preserve, and has been trampled upon by those we have chosen to
do what is best for us, but now act to do what is best for them.
apatzer
30-Mar-19, 16:44

Easy win
(IMHO)
Very good post sir
apatzer
30-Mar-19, 19:02

Ace of Aces
Please familiarize yourself with this definition.

en.m.wikipedia.org
ace-of-aces
31-Mar-19, 18:30

Obama is the mastermind of Deep State
Obama was the president when he evidently ordered the DOJ to instruct the FBI to NOT INVESTIGATE H Clinton.
He was the president when the FBI together with Christopher Steele constructed the "Russian Dossier", which someone in the Obama Administration leaked to the MSM.

These attacks in President Trump did not happen by chance!

The crimes committed by H Clinton with regards to her MISHANDLING her emails . . .

Have Democrats not noticed all these latest developments?

Lock up the criminals ! Judgment day is coming.
lord_shiva
31-Mar-19, 19:09

Ace
<<Obama was the president when he evidently ordered the DOJ to instruct the FBI to NOT INVESTIGATE H Clinton.>>

What a complete load of crap. What raw sewage are you plugged into to dredge up this dreck?

No one asked the FBI to not investigate Hillary. Hell, they had a proctologist so far up her alimentary canal they could not only count her intestinal polyps they could examine any bumps on her tongue.
lord_shiva
31-Mar-19, 19:25

More Garbage
<<He was the president when the FBI together with Christopher Steele constructed the "Russian Dossier", which someone in the Obama Administration leaked to the MSM.>>

Keep repeating GOP lies. We have not heard them often enough to start believing them. You'll need to post them another hundred thousand times, at least. How many times must a lie be repeated before it transforms into truth?

No one in the Obama Administration leaked the Steele Dossier to the press. Now, Groper (that's "Comrade Groper--Pussy Grabber" for those who don't know) continues lying about McCain giving the dossier to the press. Because Groper is a lying ass.

In October 2015 Fusion GPS was contracted by the conservative Washington Free Beacon to conduct opposition research on Groper, who at that time had not been discovered to have boasted of being entitled to fondle female genitalia by virtue of his fame and fortune. But I backdate Groper's name given the enormity of his utter assholiness.

What is the timeline of events?

1. Groper publicly requests Russia's help in hacking Hillary's email.
2. While Russia never breaks Hillary's server, they do hack both the DNC and RNC servers.
3. Russia offers Groper the data they collected.
4. Groper's campaign staff meets in secret with these Russian agents.
5. Groper concocts a false story to conceal the meeting's true purpose.
6. Paul Manafort, Groper's campaign chairman, provides Russia with polling data.


Side notes: Clinton's campaign staff were not aware Fusion GPS had subcontracted compilation of the data amassed for Washington Free Beacon (henceforth WFB) to the former MI6 Russia Desk head. Steele had no idea who Fusion GPS was providing the information to.

There was no "construction" between Steele and the FBI. Instead, alarmed by the criminal activity he had found, Steele notified the FBI--possibly some of his former contacts. Knowing his background they would have treated the information seriously, and much of it has been confirmed. NONE of it has yet been disproven.

"Russia, if you are listening, please release the pee-pee tapes."
lord_shiva
31-Mar-19, 19:35

Minor Additions
In the list above, there are a couple of other important facts:

7. The Russians in fact helped Groper's campaign, and hurt Hillary's campaign.

8. In turn Groper's campaign made ONE request regarding the RNC platform, regarding US involvement with Ukraine in favor of Russia.

9. After the election Groper removed sanctions on Russia, returned consulates, refused to enforce new sanctions enacted by congress.

These acts spell "treson," which is misspelled only because Groper's relationship to the English language is like his relationship with most women--abusive.
lord_shiva
01-Apr-19, 00:15

Difference
The difference between a KKK hood and a MAGA hat is that the hood was made in America.
ace-of-aces
09-Apr-19, 18:50

Trump's Chinese collusion.
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Mueller's investigation ended and expelled any doubt about Trump's Russian collusion delusion but Democrats will not stay idle and will begin another witch hunt.

Trump's MAGA hats are selling like hot cakes. Chinese are now on this bandwagon and are now selling MAGA hats made in China. It is absurd to believe that China wants to MAGA but it gives Democrats a chance to launch another Trump's Chinese collusion investigation but how ?

Chinese idea is very simple. By selling MAGA hats for Trump, they are now an organ and propaganda machine for Trump to win the 2020 presidential election. I won't be surprised if Democrats launch another Trump's Chinese collusion investigation.
lord_shiva
10-Apr-19, 06:31

Trade War with China
It is easy to see why China loves Trump so much. Not.
lord_shiva
10-Apr-19, 06:37

Mueller's Report
You have not seen Mueller's report, only Barr's report. If Mueller fully exonerated Trump then why must the report remain secret?

Trump is a billionaire but his tax returns can never be released.

Trump is a stable genius but we are not allowed to see any of his transcripts.

Trump is a bald faced liar, telling obvious, blatant whoppers every single day, averaging two per hour awake. This last one is true. Trump insists the child separation policy started under Obama, an outright lie. It started when Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced it as policy--a policy Trump sorely wants restored.

mo-oneandmore
10-Apr-19, 06:46

shiva
"Difference"

Yes, and I believe the confederate flag is also made in America, although I'm not certain about the manufacturing source of confederate flag, MAGA and trump toilet paper.

www.ebay.com

Mo
lord_shiva
10-Apr-19, 06:57

Viva la Difference
The only Confederate Flag that ever made a lick of difference was pure white. Not colored.

lord_shiva
10-Apr-19, 07:11

Big Fan of Obama
He was intelligent, articulate, and determined to let science inform and guide public policy. Best president we have had in ages. A truly great man.

"If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor.". While this statement turned out to be false for many Americans, most of the fifteen million added to the rolls did not have a doctor. Most DID get to keep their doctors. And he never intended that to be a lie.

Comrade Groper lies every day, knowingly. Yesteday he repeated his bald faced, ignorant lie that Obama started the child separation policy. This policy was announced by former Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who angered Groper by recusing himself over the Mueller investigation, the report of which we ate not permitted to see, while the Starr report was on line the very day it was released.

Mexico will pay for the vanity wall. We will repeal and replace Obamacare. Health care is easy, we will have cheaper, better health care for everyone. All lies far bigger than any misstatement of fact by Obama.

Obama wasn't perfect, but I sure do miss the days we had a president who was not a narcissistic asshat embarrassing our nation on a daily basis, every time he opens his cake hole. "We just bombed Syria. You have never eaten a more delicious chocolate cake in your life. I must have two scoops of ice cream."

ace-of-aces
10-Apr-19, 20:16

Barr said, " Spying on Trump's 2016 election campaign did occur"
www.cnn.com
www.foxnews.com

There is beyond reasonable doubt that spying on Trump's 2016 election campaign did occur, regarding his Russian collusion.

Hillary Clinton is using FBI as her spy to look into any Russian collusion which has never been confirmed. FBI and CIA are spy agencies. There are good spies and bad spies. If FBI spy on the suspect who has no evidence of law breaking by abusing FISA warrant which is based on phony dossier, then they will become criminals.

Democrats are not satisfied because if it is true, the ring leader HRC can be locked up for illegal spying.
chaz-
11-Apr-19, 07:32

...Barr has also been changing his choice of words on this. I think he will be confronted once the next version of the report is disclosed.
lord_shiva
11-Apr-19, 16:12

Chaz is Right (as Usual)
"I just want to make it clear... I am not saying that improper surveillance occurred, I am saying that I am concerned about it and am looking into it. That's all." Barr.

Nancy Pelosi reminded Barr that he is the acting Attorney General of the United States, not of Donald Trump.

Ace's claim Hillary has ANYTHING to do with the Department of Justice probe is based on her very loose connection to the Steele Dossier. The probe was already underway before Christopher gave it to the FBI. Why? Because so many in Groper's campaign had illegitimate contacts with Russian officials.

I mean, Groper's campaign manager, Paul Manafort, GAVE the Russians polling data.
ace-of-aces
11-Apr-19, 17:33

How do we determine unreasonable search and seizure ?
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by law enforcement agents, FBI and or Police. The fourth amendment of US constitution protects all the citizens from unreasonable search and seizure. In order to achieve this protection, the law enforcement agents have to obtain the warrants from the judge.

At this point DOJ-AG has the authority to look into how FISA warrants were obtained to spy and search on Trump and his team. FISA warrants were obtained 4 times to do surveillance on Trump and his team. If the FISA warrants were granted based on phony Russian dossier, then it is an illegal, unreasonable search and seizure.

Please wait and see how AG Barr will say. In the meantime, Democrats including Nancy Pelosi will attack Barr to discredit his findings that Trump is innocent.
ace-of-aces
11-Apr-19, 17:56

Reasonable versus unreasonable search and seizure
www.foxnews.com
How can we determine ? The key to the solution depends on how FISA warrant was requested. Rep Devin Nunes is doing to that effect. He sent criminal referral notification to Barr to look into that matter.

Trump recently told Fox News he would release the entirety of the FISA applications used to surveil one of his top aides, and other related documents.
lord_shiva
11-Apr-19, 22:31

Maryann Trump
Trump's sister stepped down as a federal judge to end investigation of her over tax fraud. Her brother, the president, appears to have been involved in the same scheme. Don't forget, while the Mueller investigation may be concluded there are multiple other investigations continuing, and so many indictments and guilty pleas of and by former Trump campaign staff. This is the most corrupt administration since Reagan, and may top the former television star.

Actors make sucky presidents. At least in the US.
chaz-
12-Apr-19, 09:34

...why aren't there more dissents coming from the Right. They're looking like stooges ...won't their "ambivalence" come back to haunt them in 18 months?
lord_shiva
12-Apr-19, 19:39

Haunting Ambivalence
I wonder that it does not haunt them now. They shut their eyes over every bit of corruption. Financial ties with money launderers over real estate in Russia and Azerbaijan he falsely denied any involvement with during the campaign? "Why, Groper is a just good businessman!"
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