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lord_shiva 12-Apr-19, 20:08	Origin of Investigation Seth Abramson: Right this is July of 2016 and this is actually how the counter intelligence investigation of the Trump Campaign, of individuals of that campaign got started. Our allies, our friends were worried about our national security so five of their intel agencies told us, "hey, there are meetings happening in Europe between Trump advisors and Russians that are incredibly concerning," and that is what got everything started. It wasn't the Steele Dossier, it wasn't even George Popadopoulis... So correction. I had been saying it was George, given he boasted to London diplomats Russia offered him dirt on Hillary. That the subpoenas launching the Mueller Investigation was based on that. Apparently they were based on much more. No other campaign had so many members colluding with Russia. What is so special about Trump that he can do it, and lie to us about it? Furthermore, the origin of the investigation is irrelevant. There was sufficient reason to investigate, and numerous indictments and criminal charges have resulted.
lord_shiva 12-Apr-19, 20:09	Pee Tapes The BBC asked the CIA if there was evidence corroborating the existence of the pee tapes. It turns out that there is, and this evidence was widely reported in the British press, but Fox deemed it not newsworthy here in the US and none of the rest of our media followed up on it. Not that there is anything criminal about Russian prostitutes giving Groper golden showers. In fact, it is beyond belief Trump doesn't simply boast the stories are true. Evangelicals would regard communist urine as holy water, and insist Trump was baptized by naked women with full bladders, bless the Baby Lord Jesus.
ace-of-aces 21-Apr-19, 20:49	Erwin Van Horzen 3 days ago When mr Assange appears for a judge and the judge asks him how did you get the DNC emails? Assange will say Seth Rich gave them to me. And that will be the final nail in the coffin of the wicked witch whose name I refuse to say.
lord_shiva 22-Apr-19, 00:13	Seth Rich did no such thing. If Julian claims otherwise he is a bald faced liar. Or rather, a fairy faced liar.
ace-of-aces 23-Apr-19, 22:02	NYT apologizes Russian hoax. Mueller investigation of Trump's Russian collusion started, based on phony dossier by Christopher Steele. We now know that it is completely false. If so, why the majority media did not know the truth for such a long time. Even when they realize that it was wrong, why they did not acknowledge and apologize ? NYT urged other media to do the same and apologize Trump.
lord_shiva 03-May-19, 00:16	What is False? Nothing in the Steele Dossier has been disproven. Steele himself doubted the pee tapes existed, but Groper didn't and now there is corroborating evidence even for those. But the investigation was not launched because of the dossier, that is Groper's bald faced lie.
ace-of-aces 03-May-19, 07:59	How can we determine FISA abuse ? youtu.be We are all aware that Steele Dossier is a hoax but if it is used to obtain FISA warrant and spy on Trump, then Democrats are breaking the law. We all are protected by 4th Amendment of US constitution; that is unreasonable search and seizure. How the previous Obama administration obtained the FISA warrant is still a mystery. Until the FISA warrant is declassified and publicly known, we will not know how the Mueller investigation started. How can one say that the investigation was not launched because of the dossier ?
lord_shiva 03-May-19, 12:39	No Hoax It is Groper bull shit anything about the Steele Dossier was hoaxed. Groper claims this, and gullible sycophants easily deluded by Groper's lies swallow it. No hoax. Groper is the hoax.
ace-of-aces 23-May-19, 21:14	Trump is going to drop a bomb shell on Democrats. Judgment day is coming soon. American public will witness how corrupt and sinister the Democrats are for inventing a Russian hoax and spy on Trump political campaign. Trump will declassify the FISA warrant abuse and order AG Barr to investigate how the Mueller investigation originated. We are aware that we all are protected by the Fourth Amendment of US constitution, that is unreasonable search and seizure. Until then, wait for the truth.
lord_shiva 23-May-19, 21:33	Trump should use the FBI to investigate all his political enemies, and use the IRS to frame them for tax crimes. If Trump's justice department isn't serving him he should clean house Stalin style. A purge. If you can't find an excuse to imprison Trump's enemies, you are a traitor and should be executed for treason. Along with any and all reporters who give Trump bad press. Execute a few thousand and the others will fall in line! America has never enjoyed a good dictator and it is high time we had one. We have become far too complacent, taking freedom for granted. We don't deserve liberty and need a dictator like Trump who will teach us how to truly appreciate democracy the hard way.
the-sigularity 24-May-19, 07:32	ace writes I am not a great fan of Trump but he deserves equal justice, more so for being a president. At this point, I am compelled to believe that Mueller's investigation is nothing but a politically motivated HRC's Deep State, witch hunt. ----------------------- ace is happy with trump because he was allowed to come in to this country and become a citizen, so he defends trump but like trump says the opposite as above. He wrote that trump won the election because more people voted for trump than for Hillary. That shows how much he knows. He keeps using Watergate to try to distract what trump has done. This is a tactic he learned from trump (pointing finger away, when accused) I have stopped looking at what he copies and pastes it is a waste of my time.
ace-of-aces 24-May-19, 08:59	Did some FBI agents collude with Deep State and commit Treason ? youtu.be Trump believes so if you watch the above video. It is clear for me that Mueller investigation showed no significant findings of Russian collusion and obstruction of justice and yet Democrats still want to impeach him. The hatred for Trump is so strong that, if Nancy Pelosi will not impeach him, she can lose the House Speaker position. Thanks singularity for repeating the statement that I made before, I am not a great fan of Trump but he deserves equal justice, more so for being a president. At this point, I am compelled to believe that Mueller's investigation is nothing but a politically motivated HRC's Deep State, witch hunt. ----------------------- This is the fundamental basic rights of each and every US citizen. Everybody is proven innocent until it is proven otherwise by the court of law. After 911 terrorist attack, Patriot act followed by Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) was enacted to facilitate the spying of terrorist activities so that we can intervene and prevent the future terrorist attack before it can actually happen. Instead, Hillary's Deep state is using FISA as a political weapon to get rid of Trump, when she lost the 2016 election in collusion with some unscrupulous FBI agents. Trump mentioned about who were these traitors but until the investigation is complete on the investigators we will never know the extent of the corruption of the Deep state. It is just the tip of the iceberg. Unless we can catch those traitors, our nation can sink into oblivion like a Titanic ship.
lord_shiva 24-May-19, 16:54	Whoa Trump is a moron. While the Mueller report may not have convincingly demonstrated collusion, despite the copious evidence, obstruction is abundantly obvious. Even Republican congressmen not twisted by Putin grudgingly concur. What is it now, 500 attorneys? 700 attorneys agree the Mueller report states obstruction? "Hillary's Deep State" is Groper nonsense. She was Secretary of State, briefly. How could she have deep state connections after eight years of Bush followed by eight years of Obama? The answer is that Groper is a moron.
ace-of-aces 26-May-19, 13:33	Why Trump did not fire Robert Mueller ? Trump has the authority to fire Mueller when the Russian hoax investigation was going on. Trump knew that he was falsely accused of Russian collusion and yet he could not fire him to stop the nonsense. Why could not Trump fire him ? The reason is simple. He consulted with former White House counsel lawyer, Don McGhan whom I believe advised Trump against firing Mueller. If Trump fired Mueller, Democrats would win because they could claim that Trump was obstructing the justice and will have a case for impeachment. Even without firing Mueller, Democrats are still clamoring that Trump had Russian collusion and obstruction of Justice. McGhan did the right thing and saved Trump but he had to resign since Trump was so furious on him. We will see soon the inner and sinister workings of the Hillary's Deep State, when the FISA warrant abuse started, that is, how the Mueller investigation originated is publicly made known.
ace-of-aces 25-Oct-19, 06:16	FISA abuse exposed. Perpetrators of Deep State will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. This is good news for all law abiding Americans. Trump was falsely accused of Russian collusion to win the presidential 2016 election. Justice Department upgrades Russia review to criminal investigation. Literally speaking, the heads will start to roll. Intelligence and justice departments were using phony Russian dossier to spy, search and seize documents of Trump and his people unlawfully. Judgment day is coming near. Trump will be totally exonerated. www.cbsnews.com
mo-oneandmore 25-Oct-19, 06:30	Ace Your: "Literally speaking, the heads will start to roll. Intelligence and justice departments were using phony Russian dossier to spy, search and seize documents of Trump and his people unlawfully. Judgment day is coming near. Trump will be totally exonerated. " I would call that wishful thinking, at best, ace, but what else might you expect from trump's crony Barr? And: your only talking about the 2016 election meddling here --- not 2020.
apatzer 25-Oct-19, 07:16	Ace of Ace's There is at least a 60% chance (IMHO) That Judgment day is coming, Damascus is close to being a heap of ruin's, We have the man of Lawlessness at the helm, with the second beast who has horns like that of a lamb, waiting to take his place and have authority in the first beasts name, and he will have to use that name. We have the great Apostate, or falling away almost in full swing. And If Pat Robertson keeps attacking Trump, Trump will attack back with Blasphemy of the magnitude that you have ever seen. On top of his claims of being the chosen one, retweeting someone who called him the King of Israel. We have false talk of peace, rumors of war If you have trouble thinking about this, just imagine this... What would a time traveler who knew of these events first-hand, how would they warn people who had no idea of what any of This is? And yes, he has been seated in the temple i.ebayimg.com On top of that he has befriended Israel, handed over secrets about them right in the oval office to Russia, and now has allowed thier enemies free reign (Iran, Syria, And yes Russia) right at thier door step. When Putin makes his move, it will be huge. tekel tekel mene upharsin
apatzer 25-Oct-19, 11:02	And a plethora of false prophets spouting all manner of lies and blasphemies
lord_shiva 25-Oct-19, 11:03	Investigation Ther needs to be an investigation into the reasons for the Barr investigation of the Russia investigation.
mo-oneandmore 25-Oct-19, 11:03	I fully agree that, aside from being racists, fanatics and degenerates, those who voted for Trump ARE like brainwashed members of a cult who have little to no reasoning power to differentiate between good and bad Those who voted for Trump ARE like brainwashed members of a cult who have little to no reasoning power to differentiate between good and bad
apatzer 25-Oct-19, 11:08	Or Truth and lies
thumper 25-Oct-19, 11:34	You guys sure spend a lot of time talking trash about approximately 63 million people you don't even know.... Then complain that the country is divided. hmmm
brigadecommander 25-Oct-19, 11:40	more like 32,million really.Around a quarter. 63-million?? BULL. Shrinking every day.
thumper 25-Oct-19, 12:08	<those who voted for Trump ARE like brainwashed members of a cult (racists, fanatics and degenerates) who have little to no reasoning power to differentiate between good and bad> www.newsweek.com Actually, 62,979,879 people voted for Trump not 32,000,000 as you try to claim. Should I now insult you for spouting BULL?
lord_shiva 25-Oct-19, 12:28	Numbers BC's point was that Russian marionette Trump's support is falling. Half the folks voting for him were likely influenced by Russian troll farms. That remaining thirty million are the Nazis, white supremacists, and other members of his unwavering, cultish, rock solid base Hillary noted as "deplorables."
thumper 25-Oct-19, 13:05	So now you're saying there are over 30 million gun toting Nazis in America? Is that a Joe Biden like made up number? I don't think there were 30 million Nazis in Germany during WWII.
lord_shiva 25-Oct-19, 13:11	Whoa! Oh I see, I failed to spell out the rest for you so you just stopped at the first word. No, the list of deplorables includes Islamaphobes, xenophobes, misogynists, homophobes, and a couple of other categories. Not solely "gun-toting" (who brought THAT up?) Nazis. There are more white supremacists in the US, far more, than there are Nazis. Steve King (the congressman, not the author) is a white supremacist, but not a Nazi. I'm sure this cleared up nothing for you.
thumper 25-Oct-19, 13:35	I just wanted you to spell it out. As you say, anyone who doesn't agree with 'your' politics is called a Nazi a white supremist or some kind of 'ist' or 'phobe'... a deplorable. It must be tough to spend so much time and attention hating so many people.
mo-oneandmore 25-Oct-19, 13:55	Reverse credits from the right element. "As you say, anyone who doesn't agree with 'your' politics is called an" idiot, communist, fascist, socialist, fanatical liberal who loves Latinos and Muslims more than his co0untrymen, and hates l Jews, Christians and the freedoms set forth in our Constitution, and want's to destroy America to grow the deep state and actually believes that trump is a horrific POTUS who is dangerous for America and the world instead of If you don't think that sounds familiar, thump, check back into these forums during the era of Barack Obama --- much of it was posted by YOUR club monitor.
thumper 25-Oct-19, 14:38	mo I'm having some difficulties following that post, it's all over the board. Maybe it's the punctuations. Are you saying that Softie does the same thing as LS? Do you have any citations? I don't have time to research 15 years of posts to corroborate your contention so maybe you could provide a link of two. On the other hand I can corroborate my contention within minutes. Actually, all you have to do is read a few posts up.
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