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babe100 19-Mar-12, 08:44 |
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I'm content in the sovereignty of our Lord. |
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It's going to get worse before it gets better.That does not mean I do not enjoy a sunset or sunrise, that I do not feel pleasure as well as pain, that I that I do not laugh and only cry. I live life because I believe its purpose is not to please myself but to please the one who Created me. To please Him takes faith, and that's not of me. It's a Gift. |
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dmaestro 19-Mar-12, 13:07 |
distinction between esoteric and exoteric teachings. Both Christianity and Islamic fundamentalists believe god will destroy the other in the end days. Self fulfilling results. The esotericist understands god, heaven, hell, judgement and eternal salvation are within and thus is not confused by the masses. |
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Bristol Palin still waiting on Obama’s phone call“Dear President Obama, You don’t know my telephone number, but I hope your staff is busy trying to find it,” she writes. “Ever since you called Sandra Fluke after Rush Limbaugh called her a slut, I figured I might be next.” Palin explains: Your $1,000,000 donor Bill Maher has said reprehensible things about my family. He’s made fun of my brother because of his Down’s Syndrome. He’s said I was “f—-d so hard a baby fell out.” (In a classy move, he did this while his producers put up the cover of my book, which tells about the forgiveness and redemption I’ve found in God after my past – very public — mistakes.) |
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softypunk maher, on the other hand, was just picking on an easy target in his stand-up comedy routine. surely you are not suggesting obama needs to call every person who is called a bad word in every comedy routine in america? the situations are totally different. obama would never have called her to apologize except the media grabbed hold of it and blew it up so fluke was put into the national spotlight. but, i will add, 1) obama calling fluke was clearly a political strategy. and one that certainly will pay off with women. 2) maher is a punk for attacking palin's kids. i think it is unreasonable, and shows poor taste and a lack of imagination. which is sad because maher is also usually very funny. 3) rush is a punk, and mean and not at all funny. plus he is almost always wrong. |
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dmaestro 20-Mar-12, 05:40 |
dude. |
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itchywell...ok...i guess i agree that they should take responsibility for what they say, but that was not softy's point. i bet you anything maher is willing to take responsibility for what he says. softy's point is completely different and totally wrong. saying that, because obama called fluke, he should therefore call palin is not only wrong, but dumb. i think obama and his strategists made a political calculation that they could garner support among a certain demographic by making that call. expecting him to call palin is crazy. end of story. |
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dmaestro 20-Mar-12, 07:28 |
commedians who include politics in their acts and the statements of the leading GOP commentator in a live broadcast to mutli millions who then actually doubles down when confronted. Furthermore the promiscuous situation that led to bristols pregnancy was already fodder for the public before the remarks were made, making heer far more notorious than fluke who was obscure until rush attacked her as a slut. This is a falsse equivalency designed to divert attention from rush. Apples to oranges... |
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Pretty Simple Criteria |
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It's not dumb |
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Comedywww.youtube.com |
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Sorry - wrong link!is the right one |
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dmaestro 20-Mar-12, 07:58 |
a foreigner and a marxist. You are out to impose your right wing agenda on the rest of us in your endless cultural war. I do not want a theocratic plutocracy, thanks. Compromise is not in your vovabulary so cut the phony posturing that Obama has not tried compromise. |
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I agree, and so it should remain, but the changing of a statement to a joke does not automatically make it ok. George Carlin once argued that anything can be funny (citing rape as an example), and I agree, but with controversial and personal subjects it must be carefully and cleverly done. In the example, Maher was not careful and not clever, he was just being a shock jock (just like our friend Rush). In any case I think we agree that both comments were inappropriate. I was not making any comment with regard to softy's point. I merely contend that the two situations are definitely comparible. Maher is not different simply by virtue of the fact that he is a comedian. <<i think obama and his strategists made a political calculation that they could garner support among a certain demographic by making that call.>> Doesn't that just take all the meaning out of the gesture though? Does it not make Obama just another PR savvy pandering politician? I know the answer, he is, because they all are. I just wish our elected officials didn't have to play this game. |
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itchyof course, as you well know. but, his politics are so much better than the republicans that i can tolerate his pandering if only to keep theocrats like santorum and 'give-it-all-to-the-rich' weasels like gingrich and romney out of the white house. as you know, i am not a huge obama fan. but i do understand that he is 1000 times bette rthan anyone the republicans have put forward. |
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What are Barack Obama's accomplishments?Answer honestly. What has Obama done for the United States? |
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dmaestro 20-Mar-12, 08:41 |
act are not clear. I do think the vatican has joined evangelicals in a cultural and political war, but the vatican has lots of baggage here, and it has little traction in secular europe. I think politically in the USA this could potentially weaken the vatican slightly depending on what is uncovered. Not sure what other impact on obama would be. |
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dmaestro 20-Mar-12, 08:52 |
he is less partisan...as you should know. |
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