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soulcrates 18-Nov-06, 22:03	Care to try again?
bobbynox 19-Nov-06, 05:42	Deleted by bobbynox on 23-Jan-07, 09:41.
soulcrates 19-Nov-06, 10:00	63,98,93 Correct! Congrats, Bobby!
bobbynox 19-Nov-06, 14:54	Deleted by bobbynox on 19-Nov-06, 16:06.
bobbynox 19-Nov-06, 16:07	Deleted by bobbynox on 23-Jan-07, 09:41.
soulcrates 19-Nov-06, 19:48	What is Jeopardy? for $500 Alex.
bobbynox 19-Nov-06, 20:25	Deleted by bobbynox on 23-Jan-07, 09:41.
zorroloco 19-Nov-06, 20:49	1961
soulcrates 19-Nov-06, 21:41	1969
vegiemite 19-Nov-06, 21:48	Numbers! 3,13,30,33 and 79.
proginoskes 19-Nov-06, 22:08	VICARIUS FILII DEI add up the roman numerals . . .
soulcrates 19-Nov-06, 23:52	666? Isn't that the title of the Pope?
saintinsanity 20-Nov-06, 03:15	If it is then it can only mean one thing.
zorroloco 20-Nov-06, 20:33	153 observe: 153 = 1^3 + 5^3 + 3^3 = 1 + 125 + 27 = 153 if you add up all the whole numbers from 1 to 17, you get 153. 153 = 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + ... + 16 + 17 this is the same as saying that 153 is the 17th triangular number. the other reason that 153 is interesting uses the concept of factorial. recall that n! means "n(n-1)(n-2)...2×1." 1! + 2! + 3! + 4! + 5! = 153
soulcrates 20-Nov-06, 21:09	19 The number 19 possesses unique mathematical properties, for example: 1-It is a prime number , only divides by itself and one. 2-It encompasses the first numeral (1) and the last numeral (9), as if to proclaim God's attribute in 57:3 as the "Alpha and the Omega". 3-Its {numerals} look the same in all languages in the world.The numerals (1) and (9) look very much the same in , for example Arabic and English. 4-It possesses many peculiar mathematical properties. For example, 19 is the sum of the first powers of 9 and 10, and the difference between the second powers of 9 and 10. 5-Number 19 is the numerical value of the word "ONE" in all the scriptural languages, Aramaic, Hebrew, and Arabic. The number 19, therefore proclaims the First commandment in all the scriptures: that there is only ONE GOD. The word "ONE" "Wahid" in reference to God, in the Quran, is used 19 times. Is it a co-incidence? The number 19 itself has no power and has no holiness, and can lead you no where. It is the Miracle that is based on this number that has the significance. This significance is explained clearly by God Almighty Himself in 74:30-31. 74:30-31 states the following "Over it is nineteen." " We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned THEIR NUMBER (i.e.19) (1) to disturb the disbelievers. (2) to convince the Christians and Jews (that this is a divine scripture), (3) to strengthen the faith of the faithful, (4)to remove all traces of doubt from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers, and (5) to expose those who harbor doubt in their hearts, and the disbelievers; they will say," What did God mean by this allegory ?" God thus sends astray whomever He wills, and guides whomever He wills, None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He. THIS IS A REMINDER FOR THE PEOPLE." 74:30-31 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
soulcrates 20-Nov-06, 21:12	19 Part II. 1.There are 114 chapters in the Quran, or 19 x 6. 2.The total number of verses in the Quran is 6346, or 19 x 334. 3.Then you add the 30 different numbers which are mentioned in the Quran's text (i.e. one God, two brothers, etc.), the total is 162146 or 19 x 8534. 4.The first statement in Quran, "In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful" consists of 19 Arabic letters. Known as the `Basmalah', it prefaces every chapter except Chapter 9. 5.Though missing from Chapter 9, exactly 19 chapters later the Basmalah occurs twice. Chapter 27 has this statement at its beginning and in verse 30. This makes the total number of times the Basmalah occurs in the Quran 114, or 19 x 6. 6.Since there are 19 chapters between the missing Basmalah and the extra one, the sum of those chapter numbers is a multiple of 19. (The sum of any 19 consecutive numbers is a multiple of 19.) But the total, 342, is also the exact number of words between the two occurrences of the Basmalah in Chapter 27. This number, 342, is 19 x 18. 7.Every word in the Basmalah occurs throughout the Quran a number of times which is a multiple of 19. 8.The very first revelation that was given to the prophet of Islam, Mohammed, came as 19 words. 9.The total number of letters making up the 19 words of the first revelation is 76, 19 x 4. 10.Though they were the first revelation, these verses are placed at the beginning of Chapter 96. This chapter is atop the last 19 chapters. 11.Chapter 96 consists of 304 Arabic letters, or 19 x 16. 12.The last chapter revealed (Chapter 110) has 19 words, and its first verse is 19 letters. 13.God's name in Arabic, `Allah,' occurs in the Quran 2698 times, or 19 x 142. 14.If you add the numbers of the verses where `Allah' occurs, the total is 118123 or 19 x 6217. 15.The main message in the Quran is that there is only One God. The number of times that the word `one' is used to refer to this concept of One God is 19. 16.The word `Quran' occurs in 38 different chapters, or 19 x 2. 17.The total number of times `the Quran' is mentioned is 57, 19 x 3. 18.Within the 114 chapters of the Quran, 29 of them begin with the Quranic initials discussed earlier. Intermixed between the first initialed chapter (Chapter 2) and the last initialed chapter (Chapter 68) are 38 non-initialed chapters, or 19 x 2. 19.In that same group of chapters, from Chapter 2 to Chapter 68, there are 19 alternating sets of initialed and non-initialed chapters. 20.The total number of verses making up this group of chapters is 5263, 19 x 277. 21.Within this group of chapters there are also 2641 occurrences of the word `Allah', or 19 x 139. Of course, that leaves 57, or 19 x 4, occurrences of that word outside of this group. 22.If you add the chapter and verse numbers of the 57 occurrences of `Allah' outside the initialed section, the total is 2432 or 19 x 128. 23.There are a large number of discoveries having to do with the numbers of the chapters and verses. Many of them are very complex and interrelated. Here is a simple one to give you a feel for these discoveries: If you add the numbers assigned to all the chapters, plus the numbers assigned to all of the verses, plus the number of verses in the Quran, the total is 346199 or 19 x 19 x 959. 24.If you look at the initialed chapters separately and add the chapter numbers, verse numbers and number of verses, the total is 190133, 19 x 10007. Of course it follows that the total for the uninitialed chapters, 156066, is also divisible by 19.
soulcrates 20-Nov-06, 21:13	This one is really neat. 2.The total number of verses in the Quran is 6346, or 19 x 334. 6346, or 6 +3 + 4 + 6 = 19.
proginoskes 20-Nov-06, 22:38	soul it is one title for the pope . . .
bobbynox 20-Nov-06, 22:40	Deleted by soulcrates on 21-Nov-06, 01:43.
bobbynox 20-Nov-06, 22:44	Deleted by bobbynox on 21-Nov-06, 11:21.
bobbynox 20-Nov-06, 22:49	Deleted by bobbynox on 21-Nov-06, 11:21.
vegiemite 21-Nov-06, 00:53	Perhaps... Perhaps the writer of the Quran was simply a mathamatical genious. He figured that if he made some scary strange connection between a number that people would be like "oh my! It must be for realz!" and so he planned accordingly. He then proceded to tip off a select group of people who "discovered" the connection and reported it to the public. More likely, however, if I had as much time on my hands as whoever crunched all of these numbers, I could find 20 signifigant things about the amazingly unsignifigant number 18. Or 22. Why? Because the Quran is...long. And there is bound to be a LOT of coincedents in it... Besides...simillar studies have been done on the bible... the American dollar... Hamlet for Pete's sake... Perhaps it's all a big giant conspiracy from some group who has been trying to take over the world for the past few hundred years... And the way I see it? If anyone has the intelligence, forthought, and time to put this much effort into these plots, more power to them... I'd rather have them ruling the world then Bush as President of the U.S. ... at least they think things through before they rush in to some stupid plan...
soulcrates 21-Nov-06, 01:42	Ok, Vegemite. Let's say that Muhammad tipped off a group of people who "discovered" this magical number 19 enlaced throughout the Qur'an. How does that explain that Muhammad lived in the 6th and 7th century, and this 19 mystery was found by Rasheed Khalifa in 1978, in Arizona, USA. Since then, the other numbers are unravelling, because we can more easily search using computers, and calculators, which weren't around in 600 A.D. when this was written.
soulcrates 21-Nov-06, 01:45	Bobby? Please keep the spam in the spam areas only. That way if we want to actually read these facts we won't have to scroll down 30 times to see the next message. C'mon! We're not here to pick sides, that's your spam.
vegiemite 21-Nov-06, 01:53	Ok, so perhaps he did not tip anybody off, but instead depended upon people to find them, believing in the intelligance of his people? Anyways, I am still more inclined to believe my latter theory, the one of coincidence, that if you searched hard enough you could find that the super crazy number 253 has some amazing signifigance... perhaps there are exactly 253 5 and 7 letter words in the Quran, and there are 2 8 letter words, 5 9 letter words and 3 10 letter words... and that verse 253 of chapter 10 (2+5+3) has exactly 253 words and that chapter 10 as a whole has exactly 253253 letters... Of course, none of this is specifically true, but who knows... have you checked? Just because someone decided to do it with the number 19 doesn't mean that's the only number that it will happen with. But of course it IS funner to believe it all to be some sort of conspiracy... I like conspiracies....
soulcrates 21-Nov-06, 01:57	Well, here's the most intriguing part of this vegie. The mathematical system of the arabic alphabet is 28 letters long and looks as follows: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,20,30,40,50,60,70,80,90,100,200,300,400,500,600,700,800,900,1000. If you take that number without the commas, it's divisible by 19. Do you think someone in 600 A.D. could have taken the time to figure that out without a calculator?
vegiemite 21-Nov-06, 02:04	I'm not saying everything about the number was thought up by this guy... and did you know that that number is also devisable by such numbers as 2, 5, 10... and a crapload of other numbers? Who knows! Maybe 253 goes into it!
soulcrates 21-Nov-06, 11:21	Did you know that any 19 consecutive numbers adds up to a multiple of 19? Did you know that the sun takes 19 years to complete a Meton Cycle?
bobbynox 21-Nov-06, 11:22	Deleted by bobbynox on 23-Jan-07, 09:41.
soulcrates 21-Nov-06, 11:26	It was very sneaky. See how you did that? You made it look like the other thread with the same spam that we were sharing last night, and got me good.
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