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thearrtofnoise 20-Mar-12, 08:52	The impact is - That someone has basically got their feelings hurt and now they are sending a signal. The Vatican has basically said to the White House "we are not going to support Obamacare where it violates the basic tenants of our beliefs." The response is "Oh, really?" And the war on religion continues, the plot thickens, where is it all going ... ?
zorroloco 20-Mar-12, 08:53	art •Obama has overhauled the food safety system •Advanced women's rights in the work place •Ended Don't Ask, Don't Tell (DADT) in our military •Stopped defending DOMA in court. •Passed the Hate Crimes bill. •Appointed two pro-choice women to the Supreme Court. •Expanded access to medical care and provided subsidies for people who can't afford it. •Expanded the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) •Fixed the preexisting conditions travesty [and rescissions] in health insurance. •Invested in clean energy. •Overhauled the credit card industry, making it much more consumer-friendly. •While Dodd-Frank bill was weak in many respects, it was still an extremely worthwhile start at re-regulating the financial sector. •He created a Elizabeth Warren's dream agency: The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. •He's done a lot for veterans •He got help for people whose health was injured during the clean-up after the 9/11 attacks. •He's killed Osama Bin Laden •Eliminated several other Al-Qaeda leaders •Ended the War in Iraq •Begun the drawdown of forces from Afghanistan •End-run Republican obstructionism by recess-appointing Richard Cordray to run the Consumer Financial Protection Board. you may not like what he has done, but he has accomplished a lot of things which many people agree with. and, as commander in chief, he does get credit for osama - bush did not get it done in 7 years. obama got it done in 2.
thearrtofnoise 20-Mar-12, 09:00	I mean other than pandering to the gay lobby ... What has he done?
chaz- 20-Mar-12, 09:01	art ... ... yes, hate in your words, your reactions ... it has nothing to do with the Constitution ... I'm talking about your objectivity and one-sidedness. Are you saying the rest of us are just not as passionate as you are?
dmaestro 20-Mar-12, 09:01	The constitution is a living document, and the world and human knowledge has changed since 1787. Paraphrasing, the law is made for man, not man for the law. Actually the USA is more liked and respected under Obama. The disaster the neocons left in thinking a swaggering policy would work unfortunately is not totally repairable.
chaz- 20-Mar-12, 09:03	Dm ... ... the attitude that 'might makes right' always seems to backfire ... I don't understand why so many folks believe it's our way or the highway.
thearrtofnoise 20-Mar-12, 09:09	Solyndra lost $500 million in taxpayer funds - That's only the beginning of Obama's failed energy policy, which is revealing itself in record-low approval ratings for an incumbent President. He said NO to domestic oil production and it's kicing America in the wallet.
thearrtofnoise 20-Mar-12, 09:10	lol @ "more liked and respected" Ask Israel what they think about Obama's "respect and likeability"
thearrtofnoise 20-Mar-12, 09:15	So going to war in Libya Without first being attacked by Libya and blowing off Congress is "having passion for the Constitution"? Wow, with friends like that who needs the Taliban?
changeling 20-Mar-12, 09:16	Why not ask the rest of the world, "Ask Israel", idiotic thing to say. Anyone would think Israel was the only country outside of the US with that question.
changeling 20-Mar-12, 09:17	When are some of the posters here going to get it? The US did NOT go to war with Libya. No wonder the US 'appears' to be in a mess with thinking like that rampant.
chaz- 20-Mar-12, 09:22	art ... ... and how many billions did we spend in Iraq on Bush's failed aggressive behaviors and wild unsubstantiated assumptions?
thearrtofnoise 20-Mar-12, 09:24	That "recess appointment" was un-Constitutional. Everyone know that.
thearrtofnoise 20-Mar-12, 09:25	This was supposed to be the anti-Bush But instead, Obama started wars when we were out of money. Why is Obama starting wars? And why is he not going through Congress. Bush went through Congress.
mo-oneandmore 20-Mar-12, 09:25	Back to the begining I really question your author's suggestion that men have an advantage ( from evolution, survival/fittest, or elsewhere), because we all know that "sex-is-just-sex" for humans. Isn't it?
thearrtofnoise 20-Mar-12, 09:26	Why is Obama trying to reduce Israel to pre-1967 borders? Why does he not support their right to protect themselves?
changeling 20-Mar-12, 09:26	Which 'wars' did Obama start?
thearrtofnoise 20-Mar-12, 09:28	lol @ "not going to war with Libya" I'm sure Tripoli keeled over in laughter with that line! Here's a little hint *whisper* if my American planes are dropping payloads on you, that's me going to war with you! You might want to check your revisionist history, there. I see leaks.
zorroloco 20-Mar-12, 09:28	obama is not trying to reduce israel...more right wing propoganda. do your homework.
thearrtofnoise 20-Mar-12, 09:29	He did Libya And he has sent troops to Africa.
thearrtofnoise 20-Mar-12, 09:34	Bebe Netanyahu Said it all on worldwide television. Accept the facts. www.youtube.com
changeling 20-Mar-12, 09:37	"He" did not 'do' Libya. "He" was asked by the United Nations (as part of the agreement the US signed many years before) to supply certain aspects and aid in stopping the regime from massacring thousands more Libyan's. The US troops in Africa are not there as part of a 'war'. They are there to protect American interests in the oil fields and mines. Perhaps before you post rubbish you might like to do a little research (theartofnoise).
thearrtofnoise 20-Mar-12, 09:42	You might want to link those claims Because he is going to war whenever he orders Servicemembers to go into combat zones armed and dangerous. They all have a Rules of Engagement. You're just playing semantics and I'm cutting the bull. Are you used to having people call you out on this nonsense?
changeling 20-Mar-12, 09:50	Call me out? I doubt you have the intelligence or the knowledge. If you believe the latest incursions by the US is 'War', then you also believe that the US has been causing wars for well over a century, all over the friggin planet, well before Obama took office. A warring nation your US, huh?
zorroloco 20-Mar-12, 10:21	art netenyahu aside, (Reuters) - President Barack Obama's popularity has risen sharply in Israel after he spoke out forcibly against a Palestinian statehood bid at the United Nations last week, according to a poll published by the Jerusalem Post on Wednesday. The poll found 54 percent of Jewish Israelis thought Obama's policy was favorable to Israel, while 19 percent said it was pro-Palestinian. A survey in May showed 12 percent thought U.S. policy was pro-Israel and 40 percent saw it as pro-Palestinian.
mo-oneandmore 20-Mar-12, 10:37	Zor To think that the US has ever been less than 12% pro-Israel about anything in distant past years, seems pitifully low to me; considering the hi-press and political-bantering it generates.
zorroloco 20-Mar-12, 10:43	jan ok. but in december it was 54%.
dmaestro 20-Mar-12, 10:44	Art we see right wing talking points not supported by fact but by opinion. Regarding Israel, they are not entitled to a land grab only minor border adjustments. That has bee en US an d UN policy simce 1967. Obama merely restated this policy that negotions are based on the internationaly recognized borders. He explicitly did not say Israel must keep the exact borders.
zorroloco 20-Mar-12, 10:51	and anyway if we lose some support in israel, and gain support in many muslime countries, why is that bad? israel sure isn't going to attack us...we are staunch allies. losing some support there in trade for gained support among people who may attack us seems to be a valid trade off.
shamash 20-Mar-12, 10:57	barack should learn from Jeff barack should learn from Jeff, and not just emit words, but take action -- action consistent in his community with the beliefs of a good man -- whether it's in the school where he teaches, or the neighborhood where he lives -- and if barack's chosen community is now the globe instead of Southside Chicago , or even just the Mideast -- (the place specifically cited when he was pre-quelly awarded his Nobel Peace Prize )-- let barack obama take proactive action -- and not just prattle a heap of pretty words -- For the global community expects more of an American President than a feel-good, hambone & collard greens, telephonically loquacious President: When you go to the White House site you should see more actions contemplated than its White House Lawn Easter egg roll -- or is the Easter Bunny who is going to earn that Nobel and (at least in the Mideast, where Easter began) bring the world Peace? You don't have to have been (like Barack) an editor of the Harvard Law Review to know what even in grade school they teach you: actions speak louder than words, Mr. Obama.
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