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zorroloco 14-Dec-16, 10:24	Sandy Hook 4th anniversary of this tragedy. Just wanted to take a moment to think about those who lost their lives for no good reason.
brigadecommander 14-Dec-16, 13:33	thank you Z It's seared into my memory. Forever. It has taught me hate. Because 'they' will do nothing to stop this.Nothing.;<iframe width="560" height="315" src="www.youtube.com" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
saintinsanity 14-Dec-16, 15:55	Such a senseless tragedy. I hope the suffering of the survivors has diminished to bearable levels by now, and that they are able to have joy again.
lord_shiva 15-Dec-16, 13:29	False Flag There are still those who regard the event as a false flag operation to confiscate our guns. Because out of dozens of parents, you shouldn't be able to find even one who, within just a few days after the event, could give a brief television interview without bursting into tears. We have to have film of people crying--and even then we'll get sympathetic responses like Ann Coulter on the 9/11 widows--"I have never seen people enjoying their husbands' death so much."
saintinsanity 15-Dec-16, 15:10	Good Lord, some of you are single minded. May the dead and the living find peace.
lord_shiva 16-Jul-17, 23:22	Your Child was just a hoax you created to preserve the sacred right of insane whackadoodles to amass stockpiles of military style weapons, the easier to massacre the innocent children of other people. This is what the deniers believe. AmericanHorse says it best: To only have the memories of your 6-year-old child has two effects. On one hand, the joy of birthdays and first haircuts, first everything. These memories give us hope. On the other hand, there are those of sorrow and grief and the waste of life. These can leave us lost to the world around us. Either way, memories are truly all we have to prove that we ever existed. So to take that away or to cast shadows of doubt that you or your loved ones ever existed is just cruel and inhuman and should be shunned and those responsible ostracized.
thearrtofnoise 17-Jul-17, 20:24	You have to look at the facts to figure out that this is a capstone drill. Big Pharma, Council on Foreign Relations, Obama ... there are several Globalist entities involved. Follow the money! www.youtube.com
lord_shiva 24-Jul-17, 15:30	Check Out Some Facts This little boy's mother insisted on an open casket funeral, even though his jaw had been blown off, because she wanted the world to see what Adam Lanza and lax gun control policies had done to her little boy. flipboard.com
thearrtofnoise 24-Jul-17, 17:55	Noah Pozner died twice He died at Sandy Hook on 14 December 2012. Then he died again on 16 December 2014. In Pakistan. youtu.be
thearrtofnoise 24-Jul-17, 18:25	Sandy Hook Psy Op Leaked in 2010 Published on Feb 22, 2017 A strange forum post was discovered after the Sandy Hook event, predicting or warning of the event. The interesting thing is that it was dated December 17, 2010. youtu.be
lord_shiva 24-Jul-17, 18:27	www.snopes.com "They went to school and never came back." The photo was an homage to children massacred at school. Noah had an open casket funeral. You think the people who attended didn't realize it wasn't actually him? Or do you imagine Noah got a passport to Pakistan just in time to be involved in another school shooting? That's one unlucky little kid. Your conspiracy stuff grows weaker by the minute.
americanhorse 24-Jul-17, 18:43	Deleted by americanhorse on 24-Jul-17, 18:54.
americanhorse 24-Jul-17, 18:55	that felt really really good - and I moderate my own.
chaz- 24-Jul-17, 19:50	...it seems some folks just really thrive amid conspiracy stories. Sometimes, if there isn't one going around, why not invent one?
lord_shiva 24-Jul-17, 21:14	Invented Conspiracy www.independent.co.uk Sad thing is, so many fell for this crap.
stalhandske 24-Jul-17, 21:31	I cannot stop wondering how belief in such obvious crap can find such a spread in the USA.
chaz- 24-Jul-17, 21:35	Stalh... ...the breadth of possibility thinking is quite wide, the depth of contrasting opinions quite deep, and the stealth of self-righteous purpose sometimes overwhelming. Other than that, it's often a very nice place to live. We have choices!
stalhandske 24-Jul-17, 21:43	I KNOW it is a great place - I actually love the USA! All the more reason to worry about such very strange behaviour and about how common it seems to be!
thearrtofnoise 25-Jul-17, 01:11	Noah Pozner's mother is a crisis actor reading a script No emotion. No crying. Not a single tear shed. Talking about gun control all the time. CNN films the whole scene on a set with green screen, Anderson VANDERBILT's nose keeps disappearing! LoL   Funny how she mentions Golda Meir, too. Zionism? youtu.be
thearrtofnoise 25-Jul-17, 01:30	EMAIL RESPONSE FROM CREATOR OF NOAH POZNER PAKISTAN POSTERS youtu.be Published on Jan 5, 2015 I emailed those responsible for creating the posters of the victims of the attack in Pakistan regarding the use of Noah Pozner image.
thearrtofnoise 25-Jul-17, 01:49	Strange Dates on the Photos of the Sandy Hook Children Published on April 19th, 2013 | by -swansong- insanemedia.net Sandy Hook Evidence:Strange Victim Photo Dates In this article titled, Sandy Hook Evidence:Strange Victim Photo Dates, we’ll take a look at photos found on a couple of international photo repositories, AP Images and SIPA Press. AP. Those initials will be immediately recognizable to most news junkies. They are the initials/logo, known world wide, for the Associated Press. Wikipedia describes the Associated Press thusly, The Associated Press is a multinational non-profit news agency based in New York City. The AP is a nonprofit cooperative owned by its contributing newspapers, radio, and television stations in the United States, all of which contribute stories to the AP and use material written by its staff journalists. Many newspapers and broadcasters outside the United States are AP subscribers, paying a fee to use AP material without being contributing members of the cooperative. As of 2005, the news collected by the AP is published and republished by more than 1,700 newspapers, in addition to more than 5,001 television and radio broadcasters. The photograph library of the AP consists of over 10 million images. The Associated Press operates 243 news bureaus, and it serves at least 120 countries, with an international staff located worldwide. he Associated press is an historic and venerated institution founded in 1846. They’ve been involved in the news gathering game for a long time. It’s all they do. They should have a pretty good handle on the process by now. As mentioned, as a co-operative they source their material from people and organizations all over the world. But they also have writers and photographers on staff, a few of whom were in Sandy Hook on 12/14/12. The photograph library mentioned above is AP Images. Unfortunately, unlike “many newspapers and broadcasters”, we aren’t financially fortunate enough to have a subscription to AP Images. Without a subscription you can only view small versions of the photos which are rarely useful for investigative purposes. As such I have spent absolutely no time there in my hunt for photos pertaining to Sandy Hook. Sandy Hook Evidence:Strange Victim Photo Dates This week I got stuck looking for an aerial photo of the Lanza, Yogananda St. home so I decided to head over to AP Images to see if I could at least find a small version to verify a suspicion. As one can tell from a cursory search of photos on the AP Images site they are listed chronologically, oldest to newest or newest to oldest depending on your prefered selection. I searched for “Sandy Hook”, went to the oldest search results and worked my way forward. What I found during my search was confusing, to say the least. The first familiar photos I came across were of Avielle Richman and Josephine Gay. The only problem was their pictures had chronological upload dates of 12/13/2009 and 8/8/2010 respectively. Then I found another photo of Avielle dated 8/27/12 and then a picture of Victoria Soto dated 11/23/12. Click on any of the banners for a larger image ... [Watch the video, it explains everything!] www.youtube.com
stalhandske 25-Jul-17, 03:42	Please explain I am completely confused about this. Where is the meat? All those photos (of Sandy Hook victims?) were taken before the shooting. So what? What is the significance of using one such photo later in Pakistan under different circumstances? What's the problem?
aussiespud 25-Jul-17, 04:00	I think Art needs to spend less time on Facebook and downloading utube clips and more time living in the real world
thearrtofnoise 25-Jul-17, 04:38	All the pics were uploaded 6 months before Sandy Hook's drill The whole thing is a coordinated event, where the planning took place well prior to the actual execution. On some of the photos, they were uploaded on the same day. Very strange that a bunch of families decided to upload their pics at the same time even though they had no idea that those pics would be used in memorials for their slain children. What are the chances of that happening?
stalhandske 25-Jul-17, 05:26	<prior to the actual execution.> ?????????? None of the photos quoted so far were uploaded the same day. And even if they were, I don't see any problem in that either - on the contrary. Are you seriously saying that nobody was killed at Sandy Hook?
thearrtofnoise 25-Jul-17, 05:39	Read it Your first reaction to these dates may be the same as mine. My initial assumption was that the dates referred to when they were taken rather than when they were uploaded. Upon closer examination however, and as you can see in the above compilation, the photos of Richman and Gay are presented as “undated”. Continuing on I found other pictures of the Richmans with upload dates well preceding the events in Sandy Hook, including one of Jeremy Richman, Jennifer Hensel and Avielle posing by a Sandy Hook fire truck from 6/8/2012. In these cases as well, the photos are presented as “undated” so we are left to assume that the dates actually refer to when they were uploaded to the AP Images site. As counterintuitive as it may seem I am not a terribly conspiratorial person. I tend to think there are simple explanations for most things that at first glance may appear quite difficult to explain. That being said I still wanted to hear from AP on this matter but I wasn’t especially suspicious. At least, not yet. I was speaking with a friend about the Sandy Hook Evidence:Strange Victim Photo Dates on the AP Images site and they suggested I check out one of the European repositories of photos, specifically, France’s, SIPA Press. From the SIPA Press Wikipedia page, Sipa Press in France is the leading photo agency distributing up to 6.000 newspictures every day to customers in more than 40 countries worldwide. They cover politics, economy, entertainment and sports. 20 million pictures are filed in Sipa’s archives and 12 million in its digital database. The editorial staff consists of 91 members, about 600 correspondents contribute to the service. Most significant partnerships exist with Associated Press, Rex Features in the United Kingdom and La Presse in Italy. Sipa Inc. in the US is a branch, which manages the distribution and production on the American market. Sandy Hook Evidence:Strange Victim Photo Dates Typing “Sandy Hook” into the search bar brought up 28 pages of search results listed newest to oldest. I skipped to page 28 and began working my way forwards, once again. And again, what I found was confusing, to say the least.
thearrtofnoise 25-Jul-17, 05:41	Refer to the article for the photos and screen shots As you can see from the above images all of the Hockley photos but one has a date of 6/15/2012. The other has a date of 11/23/2012. I’ll ask you to keep both those dates in mind as we look at some other photos. Above we have several photos of Sandy Hook victims, including Avielle Richman, 2 photos of Grace McDonnell, 3 photos of Victoria Soto and another of Dylan Hockley with apparent upload dates well preceding the event. But this is where it gets a little more confusing. In the above compilation you can see that the photo for Olivia Engel has a date of 11/18/2012. It also says that this is when the photo was taken. At this point it would be easy to assume that the photo dates relate to when they were taken, not posted, that is until you look at the dates of the other photos. The photo of Victoria Soto is dated 11/23/2012 as is the corner photo of Dylan Hockley. Was Victoria’s photo coincidentally taken on 11/23/2012 too? If so, it is quite an amazing coincidence since it appears that Benjamin Wheeler also had his photo taken on 11/23/2012. How they would know that though, is tough to say, since the photo is listed as “undated” Should this turn out to be a mistake of some kind this next series of photos won’t be the most egregious example but it is certainly the most confusing. An entire page of photos from around Sandy Hook Elementary and the fire station dated 12/13/12. While equally confusing this next compilation is far more egregious and far less easy to forgive. You may remember that early on in the Sandy Hook aftermath there was a photo released by media of victim Allison Wyatt. The only problem was the photo was actually of a little girl named Lily Gaubert who was alive and well. It is unclear how the photo came to be in the possession of media or how they made the mistake. Needless to say her mother was mortified. SIPA Press may not have exactly set the record straight but at least they don’t list Lily as Allison. Lily is between Allison Wyatt to our left and Madeleine Hsu to our right.
thearrtofnoise 25-Jul-17, 05:43	Sandy Hook Evidence:Strange Victim Photo Dates Not only is Lily Gaubert listed as Madeleine Hsu but the dates attached to those photos (6/15/2012) coincide with one another. They also coincide with many of the dates of the Hockley photos. Surely we’re not supposed to believe that all those people/families had their photos taken on the very same day, are we? Even if we were to entertain that possibility how do we explain the date given to the erroneous Lily Gaubert photo? Since it was not provided by the family no one would have had any idea when it was taken. Frankly, I find the entire discussion most discombobulating. I will patiently wait to see if I receive a response from AP Images or SIPA press regarding these curious dates. If and when I receive one I will promptly pass it along. Sandy Hook Evidence:Strange Victim Photo Dates – Update 4/22/13 A member of the Sandy Hook Investigation Team has been kind enough to do some further digging into this topic for us. Thanks, Fred. Fred was able to find the original Victoria Soto graduation picture featured in the Sipa images, above. As we can see from the insignia on her headgear the photo is from Vicki’s 2008 graduation. When we take that photo and insert it into Foto Forensics you can see that the creation date matches with a 2008 graduation. Date/Time Original – 2008:05:18 11:31:46 Create Date – 2008:05:18 11:31:46 Composite: Create Date – 2008:05:18 11:31:46.00 Date/Time Original – 2008:05:18 11:31:46.00 Modify Date – 2012:12:19 10:44:05.00 What this examination fails to explain is how a copy of the very same photo from the Huffington Post, when run through Foto Forensics, brings us this… Object Name School Shooting-Soto Special Instructions UNDATED FILE PHOTO PROVIDED TO THE ASSOCIATED PRESS BY EASTERN CONNECTICUT UNIVERSITY. Date/Time Created 2012:11:23 09:40:49+00:00 Date/Time Original 2012:11:23 09:40:49+00:00 This 11/23/2012 date does, in fact, match the dates found on the images on both the AP Images site and Sipa Press.
thearrtofnoise 25-Jul-17, 05:44	Continued Thanks to a reader (SEO) in the comments section we now have the means to further confuse the situation. SEO pointed out that if we right-click on the thumbnails in AP Images we can bring up further information on the photos. If we right-click on the above thumbnail in AP Images this is the information with which we are presented. Location CONNECTICUT, United States Event School Shooting Understanding Violence Creation Date Sunday, December 13, 2009 8:53 AM Submit Date Monday, April 15, 2013 3:57 PM Special Instructions UNDATED PHOTO PROVIDED BY THE AVIELLE FOUNDATION. I’m at a loss to explain a photo with a creation date of 2009 showing Avielle looking no younger than in her later photos. As of this writing I have still not heard from AP or Sipa in regards to my polite requests for information. I have followed up once with each. The AP site requires you to fill out a form when asking even the simplest of questions and I don’t have the time or patience to do it every time I want to follow up. Should you wish to make an attempt, here is the link for the AP Images info request page. Maybe you’ll have better luck than I. Update 01/06/14 New video out from YouTube user Timothy Hunter that contains some terrific research and is, I think, a great companion piece for this article. www.youtube.com
stalhandske 25-Jul-17, 05:52	I still don't see why it is of any interest to discuss uploading dates or photo dates of these pictures of Sandy Hook victims. You seem to have become lost in a veritable network in which mistakes one way or another are likely. To link this to a suspicion of whether the Sandy Hook murders took place (which I assume is the intent) is far-fetched (to say the least).
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