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 New FBI Statistics on Crimes Committed by Illegal AliensINS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants 2006 (First Quarter) INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants CRIME STATISTICS: 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens. 83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens. 86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are for illegal aliens. 75% of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens. 24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally 40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally 48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally 29% (630,000) convicted illegal alien felons fill our state and federal prisons at a cost of $1.6 billion annually 53% plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens. 50% plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens from south of the border. 71% plus of all apprehended cars stolen in 2005 in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California were stolen by Illegal aliens or “transport coyotes". 47% of cited/stopped drivers in California have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 47%, 92% are illegal aliens. 63% of cited/stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 63%, 97% are illegal aliens 66% of cited/stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66% 98% are illegal aliens. BIRTH STATISTICS 380,000 plus “anchor babies” were born in the U.S. in 2005 to illegal alien parents, making 380,000 babies automatically U.S.citizens. 97.2% of all costs incurred from those births were paid by the American taxpayers. 66% plus of all births in California are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers. So, whos says that we don't need to enforce our immigration laws? |
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kingofpawns 12-Nov-06, 23:31 |
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soulcrates 13-Nov-06, 19:21 |
Are there any legal aliens? |
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saintinsanity 14-Nov-06, 03:18 |
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saintinsanity 14-Nov-06, 03:21 |
Warrants for illegal aliens I found these statistics to be so unreasonable and misleading that I actually went to the cited site and found the article in question. The data was submitted by a reader of the site and the reader provided no source for his information. There is no reason to believe this information is accurate or from the FBI other than the fact that it has the letters "FBI" typed at the top of it. Frankly I'm a little shocked and saddened by your response, jdh71. Are you so blinded by fictional numbers that you would condone killing people climbing over fences? Have you ever climbed over a fence? I have certainly scaled a few fences myself, and I would not have been pleased one bit to have gotten shot for it. I just needed to get on the other side of the fence. They are just people without many choices. Oh wait, they aren't people, they are dirty illegal mexican aliens, or wherever they come from! Shoot them! Kill them! Destroy their lives! Ruin their hopes! But I guess that is our tendency as humans, we do what we think we need to do, whether that be climbing over a fence in the way, or else shooting someone climbing over our fence. |
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CNN host picks immigration as his ax to grind By Peter Hart With all the attention paid to the near-overt partisanship of the Fox News Channel, it's important to remember that skewed reporting wasn't invented by Rupert Murdoch's cable operation. In the last few months of 2003, CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight devoted abundant broadcast time to what anchor Dobbs described as an influx of "illegal aliens who not only threaten our economy and security, but also our health and well-being. Millions of aliens crossing our borders." The selection of topics, the slanted sourcing and the occasionally inaccurate or incomplete information conveyed on the program all seemed calculated to convince the viewer that the U.S. is in the midst of a crisis that is, according to Dobbs, "changing the very nature of this country" (9/30/03). The title of a series on immigration, "Broken Borders," conveyed Dobbs' political position; immigrants were also routinely featured on his show's regular "Great American Giveaway" segment. Grim concerns Dobbs' immigration reports--which tended to blur the distinction between legal and illegal immigration (see sidebar)--covered a grim array of concerns. Segment after segment was devoted to "illegal aliens" who are getting free medical care (10/1/03), putting their children in schools (10/2/03), committing sex crimes (10/30/03), getting breaks on college tuition (10/22/03), clogging up the federal prison system (11/4/03) and "flooding across our borders in some cases carrying dangerous diseases" (11/20/03). Dobbs' tone throughout was one of high alarm. "Illegal alien smugglers and drug traffickers are on the verge of ruining some of our national treasures," he warned in one show (11/19/03). In another segment (11/20/03) he complained that "700,000 illegal aliens enter this country every year, some carrying deadly diseases." Dobbs infused his own comments with a political urgency he found lacking elsewhere: "There are an estimated 10 million illegal aliens in the United States, and federal agencies are doing little to investigate and apprehend them" Dobbs explained (11/18/03). "Ten million illegal aliens live in this country," according to the anchor (11/17/03). "But many politicians--in fact, most--business leaders and union leaders are silent about this critically important issue." Dobbs praised the bravery of those who called for tougher U.S. immigration policies. Interviewing Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D.-Calif.) about a proposal to eliminate a foreign workers' visa program, Dobbs said she was "showing considerable political courage in even taking up this issue. . . . When one talks about this issue, and confronts it directly, they're accused of being xenophobic, they're accused of being racist. . . . But the facts are incontrovertible." Another of the show's reports focused on illegal immigrants convicted of sex offenses who, after serving time for their offenses, "subsequently disappear from U.S. law enforcement officials." In a discussion after the report, Dobbs praised government officials for finally dealing with the problem publicly "because they have been scared to death of the political correctness issues in this instance." Does Dobbs really believe it requires a unique kind of political bravery to crack down on illegal immigrant sex offenders? Skewed guestlist The soundbites and long-format interviews on Dobbs' program were skewed in favor of the most passionate immigration critics. Viewers were less likely to see analysts who would either defend immigrants or emphasize the relative benefits of immigration. On the October 31 broadcast, for example, one report featured comments from only two sources, both representatives of anti-immigration groups: Steven Camarota of the Center for Immigration Studies and Dan Stein of the Federation for American Immigration Reform. (Interestingly, both groups were founded with the help of John Tanton, an anti-immigrant funder with ties to the white supremacist movement--Intelligence Report, Summer/02.) That interview was followed by a one-on-one with Arizona State Rep. Russell Pearce, a Republican leading an initiative called Protect Arizona Now, which would make proof of citizenship a requirement for receiving government benefits. Dobbs described the effort this way: "Citizens of Arizona, faced with the growing numbers of illegal aliens in their state, are now taking aggressive action to protect their public services and their state budget." The Federation for American Immigration Reform's Stein appeared on Dobbs' show five times in the month of October, along with five appearances by representatives of the Center for Immigration Studies. Immigrant advocacy groups, by comparison, made a total of four appearances in the month, along with two guests from the Cato Institute, which takes a libertarian position on immigration. Dubious stats A lopsided guest list wasn't the only problem. In a report (10/30/03) on the economic impact of immigration, CNN correspondent Lisa Sylvester claimed that "researchers at the National Academy of Science concluded that while the gains to the U.S. economy due to immigration could be as high as $10 billion, the cost is higher--as much as $20 billion." Host Dobbs added that "the economics are beginning to look somewhat convincing, don't you think?" Sylvester's response: "Clearly, the costs seem to be outweighing benefits in this case." But that's not what the 1997 NAS study found. The researchers estimated that immigration provided a net gain for the U.S. gross domestic product of between $1 billion and $10 billion (see New York Times, 5/18/97)--in other words, that the benefits outweighed the costs. The $20 billion "cost" factoid was advanced by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (press release, 5/19/97), which extrapolated on a set of annual estimates in the NAS report, arguing there is "a total cost to those taxpayers of $15 to $20 billion dollars, much higher than the economic benefits." Dobbs is best known as a business reporter; his show was, until recently, called Moneyline. So it might make sense that he would focus on the economic impact of immigration: "The real losers are the hard-working millions of Americans each day who are watching their wages depressed in many cases," he declared on one show (11/17/03). (Dobbs' sympathy for labor is not particularly consistent. Discussing workers at Wal-Mart--11/22/02--he commented: "They're not unionized, so the union must not have a terrific story either. . . . End of story as far as the markets are concerned. That's what counts.") A more cautious conclusion comes from that same NAS report misused by Dobbs to demonstrate the fiscal burden of immigration. Workers without high-school diplomas, according to the study, have seen their wages drop, in part due to competition from immigrant workers, while workers who were not in direct competition with immigrant workers may have benefited from their presence in the domestic economy. This nuanced view of immigration policy as having winners and losers points to the vital need for a broad debate on the costs and benefits of immigration. Clearly, CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight is not the best place to look for one. CNN's Lou Dobbs is disgusted by the way some people talk about immigration: "We've got nearly approximately 700,000 illegal aliens crossing our borders every single year," he lectured one guest (9/30/03). "It continues unabated despite the national security interest in this war on terror. We have not been deporting illegal aliens. As a matter of fact, you just used the expression 'undocumented worker.' They're illegal aliens. The niceties of language--it's sort of interesting to hear how there's been this language shift, from 'illegal alien' to 'undocumented worker' to 'guest without status.' I mean, where does the nonsense end?" In one debate (11/19/03), Dobbs the moderator took a moment to express his frustration with the terms a guest was using: "You've added the word 'immigrant' rather than 'illegal alien,' which is the point we're talking about. And, really, there's quite a major, important distinction, do you not agree?" In fact, there's not much distinction in definition between "alien" and "immigrant"--aside from the fact that "alien" is generally considered to be pejorative and "immigrant" more neutral. As for the distinction between legal and illegal immigration, Dobbs has blurred that line himself, as when he previewed a report about the federal prison population (11/4/03): "Coming up, we're going to take a further look at the impact of illegal aliens. And it is an expensive proposition, particularly in our nation's prisons. Illegal aliens, those noncitizens taking up a third of the cells in our federal penitentiaries." Minutes later, CNN correspondent Bill Tucker said of incarcerated noncitizens: "And while they were in prison, you'd think we'd identify which ones are illegal aliens. We don't." Tucker added that "one-third of the people in federal prisons are not United States citizens. Incredibly, there's no system currently in place to identify how many of those prisoners are also illegal aliens." He finished his report that night by telling Dobbs that there was "no way to know whether they're illegal or not." In other words, Dobbs' claim that one-third of federal prisoners were "illegal aliens" was made up out of thin air. In another segment (9/23/03), Dobbs was outraged over a cross-country "freedom ride" campaign for immigrant and workers' rights. "Whether you're a Republican or a Democrat, a conservative or a liberal, this next story will amaze you," Dobbs explained. "People who have not respected immigration laws in this country are now demanding equal treatment under the law. They have begun a cross-country demonstration for those rights, in fact." Responding to a viewer's letter a week later (9/30/03), Dobbs commented, "I should point out, not all of the people on those buses are illegal. Although we are told that some of them are, according to organizers of the group."--P.H. www.fair.org" target="_blank">-> www.fair.org |
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did you know... -- Did you know that, in just 2004, undocumented workers illegally hired by US businesses contributed $7 billion to Social Security and $1.5 billion to Medicare? And yet, virtually none of the illegal workers will ever receive benefits back from these federal programs? Not one penny. -- Did you know that all Social Security Administration projections and budgets include, and rely heavily on, billions in annual contributions from undocumented immigrant workers? That Social Security would have a significant solvency problem without that revenue? -- Did you know that, in 1999 under President Bill Clinton, the US government collected $3.69 million in fines from 890 companies for employing undocumented workers....and in 2004, under President George Bush, the US collected only $188,500 from 64 companies for such illegal employment practices? And that NO fines were levied at all in pre-election 2004? -- Did you know that when, in the 1980s and 1990s, US corporations relocated their cheap-labor, low working conditions factories from along the US-Mexico border to Asia, that unemployment in Mexico rose to about 40%? And that Mexico has no unemployment benefits for its jobless residents? The plain facts of the broken US immigration system are that US businesses and the US and Mexican governments all benefit handsomely from the present flow of illegal immigrants into the US.....but they refuse to reimburse local and state authorities, and taxpayers, for the related costs. And they all conveniently allow the US citizenry to blame starving, dying immigrants for responding to the enticements to work illegally in the United States. It's an ugly, immoral situation. Writes Pastor Robin Hoover of Humane Borders, "Our nation virtually posts two signs on its southern border: 'Help Wanted: Inquire Within' and 'Do Not Trespass.' Without the help of immigrant labor, the US economy would virtually collapse. We want and need cheap immigrant labor, but we do not want the immigrant." |
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Jeff |
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What would be wrong with That way, all jobs needing employees gets filled, but no more enter the country than are actually needed. We have a list of people who are in the country and have checked their backgrounds. They will have valid jobs which can be verified and the employers held accountable to pay and provide the promised salary and benefits. Additionally, there will be no more suffering because of "Cayotes" or crossing the unbearable border conditions because even if they make it, there will not be any reason to be here. I think this becomes a matter of law enforcement for our immigration laws and holding employers accountable. Once it becomes known which jobs an employer is offering, and the conditions of employment such as salary and benefits, it is simply a matter of an occassional audit to ensure the employer is meeting his obligations. To me, this seems simple, straight-forward, anf fair to everyone, plus much more humane to those here not under legal status. btw "A.P.Idiot"... this has nothing to do with race, color of skin, religion etc. |
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pawnt aliens. Yeah, I get why they want to come here. I would too in their place, but just becaue I can empathize doesnt mean I can excuse the process. Illegals are ruining most of the SW United States. It's pretty easy to be for comepletely open borders when you live in Hawaii - Mexican's are nto coming into your state by the hundres and thousands every day ruining your state. We need a wall - not a fance - a big freakin wall, berlin style - manned every few 100 feet by a real human being. It is *NOT* outside the realm of logistics and very possible. Hell, I dont care if we legalize every last illegal alien here, but the bleeding has to stop! |
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alexwilson 14-Nov-06, 19:05 |
Illegal immigration is enormously popular because it drives the price of labor down. In a market where labor is bought and sold like any other commodity, of course free capitalism would favor illegal immigrant labor. Likewise a proper job in enforcing the border would include not only a wall, but for the Government to start checking out duplicate social security numbers. If a guy is working a roofing job in Phoenix and Boston at $10.00 per hour at the same time, you can deduce pretty quickly that an immigration officer needs to be sent out to investigate. Thirdly, heavy fines need to be imposed on the businesses that are caught cheating and jail time for some of them. All of this costs money, but I think it is a small price to pay to preserve the lifestyle of the working man, which made this country a great country. It isn't the doctors and lawyers golfing at the country club, but its the common man who makes enough money to buy a car that keeps the man who builds cars working. The present model of impoverishing the working man at the expense of the college educated may make the college educated feel better, but it is a non-sustainable trend. As those people drop out of the economy when their wages drop, the economy shrinks for everyone. |
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alex but, that is the nature of a capitalistic system...the greatest good (better than humanity, compassion, community, spirituality, health, education, sustainability, etc., etc...) is accumulation of wealth. money=god basically. he who is the best capitalist is the greatest human being since financial wealth seems to be our highest value. yechh! |
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saintinsanity 15-Nov-06, 11:04 |
Jd As far as your "Berlin style" wall, manned by real human beings (obviously not mexicans, right? wink wink) every few 100 feet...that just doesn't sound good to me. Perhaps you shouldn't have said "berlin." There are a lot of bad feelings about that wall. Maybe you should have said the Great Wall of America, which we use to keep those savage nomadic mongoliexicans from invading our Bush Dynasty. I am sad. There is so much racism still alive in this world. I saw the Borat movie and it was terrifying the hatred he was able to elicit from people. He gets people to say we should be killing fags and blacks...and these people are totally sincere. They really think it is a good idea to hate people who aren't white, or straight, or acceptable. Our little sister to the north, Canada, they are ok (even though there are frenchies) because they are mostly white. But our grubby little brother to the south, we try to keep him locked in the basement so that nobody will know our secret. So tell me, how are the mexicans ruining your state? And alex, I have just one question for you. Why would an illegal immigrant steal someone's social security number from Arizona and then travel all the way to Boston to work? That doesn't make any sense. |
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pawnt open because a few powerful people in high position in government make a lot of money from drugs. if we were really righting a real war on terror - we'd have the border locked up, but it's not - why? Do you hear that noise? Yes it is the cognitive dissonance buzzing in your ears. Canada is Ok with us because Canadian are not sneaking across the border and generally wrecking the communities they would sneak into. Has nothing to do with the color of their skin. Illegal aliens come her form gangs, kill, steal, molest children - all in higher proprotions than the American population - and generally place a large drain on the system through the schools and emergency rooms. Many ER's in the SoCal have had to close because these ERs are losing so much money due to illegal aliens. These folks refuse to learn eglish or adopt any of the common american culture. The next generation further perpetuates the same. What do you call a second generation Korean or Indian immigrant? Doctor. Whats different about the Latinos? All of the evil racists keeping them down? |
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jeff generalizations and stereotypes? Exceptions are nothing more than blips and burps - they happen - but do nothing and mean nothing about the general trend. |
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saintinsanity 15-Nov-06, 15:52 |
The Borders are Not Open But building a Berlin Wall isn't a very good solution. It just pushes the problem away, closes our eyes to what is happening on the other side of the wall. We need to get to the heart of the problem. The problem is, the heart of the problem is in the hearts of the people, all of them, or at least most of them. Capitalists...for shame! Mind you, it's a pretty good system if you are in it. Work hard, save your money, buy nice things. Whoopty doo. The problem with that system is that it's a 'f**k you' system. I got mine, screw you if you are starving. Granted, the evil socialists have set up some terrible programs to help the people in the US, people who have difficulty of one sort or another. But when you look at the whole world, it's still every country for themselves. Granted, the evil socialists among us are giving all sorts of foreign aid monies to poor helpless countries. If only the wannabe capitalists in charge of those countries weren't taking the bulk of the money for themselves. We either want to throw money at problems, or else just shut them out altogether. That just seems so shallow to me. We could go much deeper into the problems. |
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pawnt do the math and you'll see that someone forgot to tell the few hundreds to thousands of illegals aliens that cross the border every day that is is more difficult to cross than I think. the problem with mexico is mexico's. we have our own problems here. if you heart bleeds so much and you hate capitalism so much, why do you not sel all that you own and move to mexico to help the plight of the brown. put your oney where your mouth is? or is the weather much too nice in hawaii? your house too nice? Your salary too good? Yeah, that horrible capitalism . . . |
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saintinsanity 15-Nov-06, 22:57 |
heh And I don't make very much money. But I manage to survive on a thousand a month, despite the high cost of living in Hawai'i. I don't have a car, although I did splurge on a moped. 80 miles per gallon, but I still contribute to the emissions a little bit. My only possessions in the world of any value are my moped and this computer I type upon. I justify them to myself because I need them for my little life, or else I would never get through school. I figure, I COULD sell everything and give it to the poor, but I can probably do much more good with a proper education, a degree, and a hot tub in my back yard. Wait, scratch that last one. I don't know where that came from. But don't give me a hard time because I happen to live in a capitalist society. I'm allowed to disagree with my society's ideals. Just because you and everyone around me thinks the greatest good is to collect a huge pile of imaginary currency, doesn't mean I am a hypocrite for living here. By the way, don't be so jealous that I am living in Hawai'i. The weather is indeed nice. But if I was going to move somewhere to help 'the brown' it would probably be far to the north where the Eskimos live. They need help too, I bet. Plus, they have snow. But why is Mexico's problem not our problem as well? It is certainly effecting us. And what do you mean we have our own problems here? What problems do we have? |
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soulcrates 15-Nov-06, 23:17 |
Wow that really sheds alot of light |
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saintinsanity 15-Nov-06, 23:37 |
Snow is always whiter Mainly I just wish I could throw a snowball at jdh71. |
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soulcrates 16-Nov-06, 00:48 |
I love snowball fights! |
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pawnt imaginary currency, doesn't mean I am a hypocrite for living here. *** Greatest good? Too collect a huge pile of money? That's a little unfair assumption to make, because I do not think that is the "greatest good". In fact, my faith clearly states that the root of all evil is money, Paul called it, "filthy lucre," which has a nice poetic ring to it. Money is a reality of this world and it is the responsibility of each individual - not the government - to distrubite extra money to the poor and the needy. I'm sorry, but it is a bit hypocritical to rail against the same system from which you benefit. If you really care so much about the poor, then do something personally. I donate ~$100/month to a Christian organisation that does food and medical missionary work. I volunteer at local soup kitchens about once a month and give anyone with a sign by the side of the road some cash. My future medical practice will have mission work or free-type services as part. I the end the ony impact that you can make is is what you do. ***By the way, don't be so jealous that I am living in Hawai'i. The weather is indeed nice*** Jealous? No. I like seasons and I hate that SoCal doesn't get very cold in the winter. |
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saintinsanity 16-Nov-06, 14:31 |
Well thanks for that But I don't think it is "hypocritical to rail against the same system from which I benefit." I have no other choice. It is either rail against a faulty system or just shut my mouth and collect as much cash as I can. I refuse to do the latter. So here I am, railing away. Capitalism sucks. |
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pawnt renting with a moped and a computer - of course if you lkie things that way it's fine too, but at least you've got options |
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