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americanhorse
03-Dec-14, 16:07

Literature
This thread is designed to talk about authors and novels and why you appreciate them.

James Joyce: Ulysses

The Enormous Vocabulary: Ulysses alone contains more vocabulary words (30,030) than the entire Shakespearean canon of thirty-eight plays and 150 sonnets (29,168).

Ulysses an encyclopedia of knowledge:
Reading Joyce can be very much like reading an encyclopedia. This is not an accident; he sought to make Ulysses a sort of encyclopedia with its tons and tons of references and allusions. There are at least two very large texts that seek to identify and index all the information in Ulysses but (just as with Finnegans Wake) it is often said that we'll never be able to identify all the facts, figures, stories, songs, cartoons, jokes and everything else that's jammed into it.

I love Ulysses.
ed_norton
04-Dec-14, 09:28

I attempted Finnegans Wake many (okay more than several but less than a dozen)
times but never could connect the dots in a way that kept me going.
Riverrun something something fromswerveofshore. That's about it.
All I know of Ulysses is the suit filed... It was deemed pornographic or vulgar?

Is there anyway a modern reader can access these books? On a certain level they
seem something of an artifact now with an inside joke for the clever to discover.

saintinsanity
04-Dec-14, 11:58

Sounds like TS Elliott's Wasteland. Although that poem is rather compelling on its own, it is filled with a hundred references that no modern reader could reasonably be expected to know.
americanhorse
06-Dec-14, 14:23

Ulysses
ed norton you are probably right about the reader accessibility of Ulysses - it will most likely be read and is only read by Lit. majors and not the public.

New York postal officials seized and burned 500 copies of Ulysses, because it was deemed pornographic but that charge was over ruled in court.

A summary of the book could not begin to tell you much about what the book is really all about. The greatest strength of Ulysses is the manner in which it is told. Joyce's stream-of-consciousness offers a unique perspective on the events of the day; we see the occurrences from the interior perspective of The books 3 really main characters: Bloom, Daedalus and Molly. But the book is really about the writing style of the author and the concept of stream of consciousness.

James Joyce's work is an experiment, where he plays with different narrative techniques, he directs the story from numerous linguistic as well as psychological points of view. It is a modernist novel that is truly a master piece.
brigadecommander
07-Dec-14, 10:42

My very favorite Author
is J.R.R.TOLKIEN. And my Favorite work by him is 'The Silmarillion'. His work touches a chord deep inside me,almost at a genetic level. Ethics ,Morals,Beauty,and Grandeur, are the key components of this Masterwork.
americanhorse
07-Dec-14, 12:25

The Simarillion
I have not thought of the book in years - Now I will have to go through some boxes and find it. I can't wait. As I remember it does not read like a novel more of a historical narrative. I love the epic battles. The Simarillion produced one of my favorite characters in Literature Beren. It going to be like talking to an old friend. The antagonists are the best.
brigadecommander
08-Dec-14, 03:06

americanhorse
Beren is one of my favorites also. Few people know that from his Union with Luthien, came All the Numenorean Kings, and also the Half-Elvin. It it is said that this line will never fail. And not to mention Luthien's linage, which goes back so far, none now remember it!! Or Gandalf's (Olorin) in his younger days!!.Did you know that Sauron (GORTHAUR) and Gandalf were of the same order. (the Maia)?. And so much more, stretching back THROUGH countless ages of the World. And yet the Books ethics, and Morals, are so VERY allegorical and applicable today. i have read much in my short life. From Shakespeare to Rafael Sabatini, Marcus Aurelius and much more , but nothing comes close to Tolkien's Masterpiece. That just my opinion. So for those that have little time to go buy books,here is the complete audio version of The Silmarillion. ;youtu.be
It may be that (like me at first) you get a little confused or uncomprehending, of this long Tale. I was and am, a great fan of the Lord of the Rings novel. But it was only after reading the Sillmarillion that i understood what it was what Tolkien was trying to say. Now when i think about it it arises in my Heart like a great chorus or song.
kewois
12-Mar-21, 09:52

Eleanor Hallowell Abott
1872-1958

Not as big as the more well-known literary figures, but she was able to do 75 short stories and
14 romantic novels. I like her style as I am more of a modern reader who prefer short
and entertaining stories written in simple words.

One of her short stories which I encountered recently is entitled "The Indiscreet Letter."

It's the story of three travelers on a train headed to Boston; the Traveling Salesman,
the Young Electrician, and the Youngish Girl.

It's indeed short and sweet.
bumvinnik
12-Mar-21, 10:13

Steinbeck
Steinbeck is good.

The grapes of wrath is my favourite.
That's more "American Literature"...

That book made me so mad because of the "rich vs poor" that keeps most people down.

When it came out they tried to say he was a communist 😉
rilke
12-Mar-21, 10:36

Hermann Hesse
Siddhartha, a very spiritual story of a man 's journey
to the road of self discovery.
rilke
13-Mar-21, 17:55

Voltaire
Candide.
1759.
It was written during the Age of Enlightenment.
"We must cultivate our own gardens ".
rilke
18-Mar-21, 13:00

Hamlet
Greatest drama play .
Shakespeare 's Hamlet is the most famous
of his drama plays.
So many movies has been adapted to
Hamlet.
rilke
30-Apr-21, 00:03

The Sonnets
Shakespeare 's sonnets are magnificent.
Still are an enigma .



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