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andywm
25-Nov-10, 18:19
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caknight
25-Nov-10, 21:14
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Too Late
If white plays 20.Rc3 then we have Be6.
If 20.Re3 Bf5.
I think white will try 20.Rg3 Qe6 21.f3 Bf5.
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taurus0624
26-Nov-10, 23:31
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doji
27-Nov-10, 01:58
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Deleted by doji on 02-Dec-10, 23:04.
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taurus0624
27-Nov-10, 03:49
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what do u think?
attack of white if :
20. ...Bf5 21.e6 Qxe6 22. Qxg7 mate
or 20...Be6 21. Bh6!
I think d best move wud be :
20. Qe6 21. h3 Bf5
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andywm
27-Nov-10, 06:07
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Board
Sorry, thought his R was on d1 and not c1, must have mised that move. That tied in to my last comment. Not surprised now by w's move since this is what I thought a few moves back. So now we need to make a move; I like the idea of Qe6...it at least keeps us in the game but w now has the advantage.
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opengames
27-Nov-10, 19:33
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Our move 20
My vote is to move 20...Qe6. If 21.h3 or 21.f3 then 21...Bf5. If 22.Bh6 then 22...Bg6.
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caknight
27-Nov-10, 20:34
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20...Qe6
20...Qe6 21.f3 Bf5 I think white will play 22.Rd1
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doji
30-Nov-10, 03:28
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So,
No doubt about this move: I will post 20... Qe6!
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doji
02-Dec-10, 23:04
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Deleted by doji on 10-Dec-10, 11:10.
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andywm
03-Dec-10, 19:19
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A bit of a surprise, so....
W's taking his time and is being very methodical w/ his moves.....we need to survive this attack since he's got us tied up very well. My suggestion is Bh5.
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taurus0624
03-Dec-10, 19:51
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i agree
Bh5 works well to protect the d1-h5 diagonal
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hityerclock
04-Dec-10, 06:35
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21... Bh5
I vote for Bh5, as well. This keeps the W rook off of d1 for the time being so that our d-pawn doesn't become a problem, and we can move a later ...Bg6 if necessary.
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opengames
04-Dec-10, 17:16
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21...Bh5
21...Bh5 and if 22.Bh6 then 22...Bg6. If then 23.Rd1, we can support our d5 pawn with 23...Rfd8.
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doji
06-Dec-10, 00:47
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So,
21... Bh5 is what I will post!!
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doji
10-Dec-10, 11:10
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Deleted by doji on 20-Dec-10, 12:15.
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hityerclock
10-Dec-10, 15:34
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Candidate moves ...
I don't get white's move. Can anyone see what they might be up to with that?
Just off the top of my head, here are some candidate moves to consider, in no particular order:
Bg6, Rfd8, b5, a5.
Discuss ...
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opengames
10-Dec-10, 18:32
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White's move 22
Maybe they expected 22...f6, & we'd have 2 pieces & a pawn attacking their e5 pawn...? Of course, they can stop any such attempt with Bxc4. I think we should leave our Bishop on h5 now, since it keeps White's Rooks & Queen off the h5-d1 squares. Maybe 22...Rfd8 is as good as we have? I'm not the best player here, so let's see what stronger players say...
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caknight
10-Dec-10, 19:27
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Deleted by caknight on 10-Dec-10, 21:21.
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caknight
10-Dec-10, 21:23
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22.Rfc8
22.Rfc8
Maybe white is aiming to remove blacks knight then double their rooks on the e-file.
I don't like breaking the pawn island on a7-b7.
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hityerclock
11-Dec-10, 18:59
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Rfd8
If white plays Bxc4, we can play dxc4, getting rid of our isolated pawn, gain a tempo on the white Q, and we get control of the open d-file.
I still don't see the point behind Re1, so I'm thinking that was either a mistake, or as opengames suggests, an attempt to get us to play the losing ...f6?.
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andywm
12-Dec-10, 09:42
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White's Move
Also a bit confused over W's move, it seems W gave us some breathing room. Maybe W is happy with his position and wants to see our next move. I don't see much on the left side of the board for us to move so maybe either abvancing our a or b pawn up or moving over our f R to cover our Kn and then get that piece more involved. I do think W made a useless move and it may have got us back in the game.
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andys100
13-Dec-10, 13:43
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Rfc8
I like the active Rfc8, to meet 23.Bxc4 with Rxc4 and doubling rooks on the c-file. At least that would give us an active game. Maybe 22.Re1 was played so that they could prepare a plan along the lines of Bg5-c1, f2-f4-f5? I'm not sure how easy that would be to execute, but it would give a reason for their 22nd move.
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doji
15-Dec-10, 00:40
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I got
2 votes for 22... Rfd8 (hityerclock, opengames) and 2 votes for 22... Rfc8 (caknight, andys100). andywm, your choice is, I think 22... Rfc8 ("to cover the knight"), but I am not sure, can you clear this up for me? Thanks.
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opengames
15-Dec-10, 19:25
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Tie-breaking
doji, looks like you'll have to cast the tie-breaking vote for our next move!
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dmaestro
16-Dec-10, 12:08
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I agree with andys100 about the probable plan behind 22Re1. I tend to think Rfd8 is slightly better because it protects the isolani, and if the a pawn can be advanced then the other rook can move to c8.
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doji
17-Dec-10, 07:46
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Yep,
opengames, it seems like I will have to do that. So, I will post 22... -Rfd8, because, if I don't count andywm's move (he has a vacation flag), this move has a slide advantage. I didn't take the position into account, because I read the post of the other club as well, and it wouldn't be fair if I interfere in the game itself.
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caknight
17-Dec-10, 10:49
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Move 23.
After our 22...Rfd8 white should try 23.Rd3.
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sacul219
17-Dec-10, 15:10
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Replies.
I try to reply in this thread, and make suggestions, but they arent coming through....hoping this
works..
~ Lucas ~
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sacul219
17-Dec-10, 15:11
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Move 23.
Worked out what I was doing wrong
I also agree with Caknight. 23. Rd3 was what I was going to suggest too
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