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zed2 28-Dec-12, 22:50	d6 Hi guys. I am back after a break
the-sigularity 29-Dec-12, 13:02	WELCOME BACK!! I'm sure everyone is glad to see you back. I regard you as a very significant asset in our struggle and am confident you will contribute enormously, as you have in the past. Welcome Back marathongirl.
zed2 29-Dec-12, 13:07	THANKS Thanks so much for the welcome   I've had HUGE changes in my life, moving house was the least but now am a lady of leisure so should have more time to THINK chess! LOL
kepplersteve 29-Dec-12, 21:28	Happy New Year I'm away on a cruise to Bahama's and Florida. I'm not bringing a computer with me.
zed2 30-Dec-12, 01:07	ENJOY Are you trying to make us jealous LOL? Enjoy your trip!
bigpeta 31-Dec-12, 09:52	ion on holiday ion has his vacation flag set for 20 days so i suggest that in the meantime you all try to solve the xmas puzzle i set you
bigpeta 02-Jan-13, 03:59	Move 11 although on holiday ion says he will try to move Board Position Latest moves 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.0-0 Nf6 5.d4 Bxd4 6.Nxd4 Nxd4 7.Be3 Nc6 8.Nc3 h6 9.f4 exf4 10.Bxf4 d6 11.Nd5 I think the team is holding its own on this game so well done guys keep it up
the-sigularity 02-Jan-13, 10:28	Vote for 11.......0-0 11.......0-0 Will obviously place our K in a safer place. Furthermore, now his e pawn is in a precarious predicament.
zed2 04-Jan-13, 22:52	0-0 I must be doing something wrong here. Twice I had thought I had posted my vote and when I looked a day or two later there was no post   Hmmm......
efc8 05-Jan-13, 02:32	New vote game (a) Nd5......Nxe4 it's free Re1 Pinning the N (b) Nd5......NxN PxN getting rid of an isolated pawn, opening the e file and attack Nc6 (c) Nd5......0-0 seems that we being coaxed to castle because this will follow NxN......QxN instead of destroying the King's pawn defence Qh5 White will have 3 pieces looking at the f2 square and a bishop between a Rook and the Black Queen. If I am right then we need a better move the 0-0
bigpeta 05-Jan-13, 04:52	better than 0-0 a: Nxe4 its free after Re1 pinning the N on the K so no its not free b: NxN is just bad c: 0-0 if now NxN QxN Qh5 then Qd4+ wins the B. In fact after 0-0 whites best move is Qe1 protecting the e-pawn So no we dont need something better than 0-0
efc8 05-Jan-13, 05:02	New vote game Nd5....0-0 NxN....QxN I guess the best would be Be4 to prevent the check & expose the Queen to the Rook
hogfysshe 06-Jan-13, 17:14	agree... voting 11. ..0-0.
efc8 07-Jan-13, 02:57	New vote game Against the odds I vote for Be6
bigpeta 07-Jan-13, 06:40	playing 0-0 thankfully the best move won the vote happy new year folks
bigpeta 08-Jan-13, 01:31	move 12 Board Position Latest moves 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.0-0 Nf6 5.d4 Bxd4 6.Nxd4 Nxd4 7.Be3 Nc6 8.Nc3 h6 9.f4 exf4 10.Bxf4 d6 11.Nd5 0-0 12.Bxh6 A word of warning. Dont just make the obvious response without careful thought
zed2 08-Jan-13, 02:16	Nf6 x Nd5 The N on d5 Is posing a threat and our N is blocking our Queen. He may not sacrifice his B by taking g7 until he has another covering piece for that square so I think that a N exchange is a reasonable move. Also we can move our B out to e6 to counter his B on c file after N exchange. Or if e4 x Nd5 and puts our N on c file under threat we move him to e5 threatening his B.
the-sigularity 08-Jan-13, 09:52	Vote NXN I agree with mg; 12.......NXN May be our best option at this time, but; Lets consider: 12........Ng4,, this threatens the h Bishop, and if: 13.BXg ...... KXB or if: 13.h3 threatens the N, then; 14....NXB Also our c Night may be able to threaten the c4 Bishop and provide support for our g4 N in the future and cover seven other white squares by moving to e5;
fr1ar 09-Jan-13, 12:54	very complexed 32 possible moves and which one is the best??? I've narrowed my possibilities down to 12. ... Nxe4 or 12. ... Nxd5 I like 12. ... Nxe4 because it gives black a small material gain and it leaves whites pieces working against themselves. It also protects against 12. Nf6+. Now for all that it still seems kind of passive. 12. ... Nxd5. I like getting whites Nd5 out of the way but how will white take back? exd4? Bxd5? or Qxd5? If exd5 then as marathongirl said we could reply with Ne5 and still have the initiative. But if Bxd5 then what? Ne5 probably and white has a chance to gain some tempo and strengthen his position and the same thing with Qxd5. So I guess i'll say 12. ... Nxe4 because it seems the safest. @ stealth invader, I just looked at 12. ... Ng4 closer, that is a possibility also I think.
efc8 09-Jan-13, 14:25	New vote game Hi Marathongirl, Qe4 would prevent NxB easily. efc
kepplersteve 09-Jan-13, 18:16	Ng4 Threaten Bh6 Also threatens ph2 Happy & Healthy New Year Everyone. Great Cruise, great New Years Party at Sea. Not trying to make anyone Jealous.
efc8 09-Jan-13, 20:22	New vote game Stealth, Marathongirl suggested Bxh6.......NxN pxN.........Ne5 attacking the B Qe4........NxB Qf2 Mate
the-sigularity 09-Jan-13, 21:21	New Vote Game ecf I think you meant Q.....d4....NxB Qg7 Mate However: The N would not take the B if the Q moves to d4
efc8 09-Jan-13, 23:23	New vote game Yes Stealth Qd4, just pointing out that the B couldn't be captured
bigpeta 11-Jan-13, 04:03	Nxe4 Qd3 then where does the N go to? Nc5 Qg3!! Nf6 Nxf6+!! so no Nxe4 leads only to trouble
the-sigularity 11-Jan-13, 09:54	N.....g4 Not trying to run the show, or prompting any kind of action, But, I would still like to see some input or refutation on: 12......Ng4 please I have analyzed this move and can not come to a definite conclusion. Perhaps some of the higher rated players could delve into the possibilities either for or against it, so that we might clarify the result. If it is a worst move than 12........NXN could we have some contradiction, please?
zed2 11-Jan-13, 11:36	Ng4 Hi Julio, I have looked at that move and I agree that it does seem a good option. My only reservation is that N's are very dangerous and I like to nip trouble in the bud so to speak. LOL I have worked through different scenarios and still prefer NxNd5. Sorry for not being more specific.....but the possible moves after Ng4 were numerous and I am on a tight schedule this morning.
bigpeta 11-Jan-13, 11:37	Ng4 is a very acceptable move. but you have to weigh that against the threat posed by the white N on d5.
hogfysshe 11-Jan-13, 15:09	still undecided apologies for being so slow. have been weighing the options. hope to have a vote in by the end of the weekend. but please move ahead w/o me if that's not soon enough. This second I'd vote for NxN.
the-sigularity 11-Jan-13, 21:30	Threat on N on d5 I analyzed the moves for the N on d5. 12........Ng4 13.Ne7+....QXN 13.Nf6+.....NXN 13.Nf4.......Nc-e5 to guard the g6 square against the WN. This e5N also guards N at g4 and the f7 square, stops an advance of the e4 pawn, threatens the B at c4 file and can not be threatened by an enemy pawn. 14,BXg7.......KXB or if 14.h3......NgXB (Probably ion will not make all this moves, but what do we think?)
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