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claukkonen
01-Mar-13, 20:12

Conditional moves...

GK, any movement forward on the option to prevent conditional moves, to be made against a player if he/she desires this?

Just wondering?

Thanks, Chris

woutstra
02-Mar-13, 06:37

there is a option that when a conditional move has been activated you will just go to the my games section other then that there is nothing for that

but i'd like to know why... conditional moves are mostly used for a semi forced checkmate or for speeding up openings why would you want to opt outon that

i think the best way to compare this is like in real chess your opponent expected your move and moves right away to respond to this

tactical_abyss
02-Mar-13, 08:13

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tactical_abyss
02-Mar-13, 08:16

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tactical_abyss
02-Mar-13, 08:17

Deleted by tactical_abyss on 02-Mar-13, 18:14.

evader23
03-Mar-13, 05:53

claukonen

If you don't like conditional move don't use them. I like them. It speeds up the game and alow me to put in a repsonse to a move a expect a opponent to make. If I know after a capture my opponent will capture the piece right back I can put in my response to that right then. if I have a forced mate I can enter that and speed up the ending. I can enter book repsonsed to openings. When I am caught up on all me games and I feel like playing I can look at the games see what my opponent my do and enter a reponse to that.

As a said I like then if you don't don't use them

claukkonen
04-Mar-13, 17:45

Conditional Moves

evader23, you are not understanding the problem. I do not like conditional moves made against me. I have never used a conditional against an opponent of mine.. You may like to use conditional moves against your opponents and that is where the problem is. A very few of us Gameknot members do not like conditional moves made against us.

Chris

woutstra
04-Mar-13, 17:55

maybe if you would explain why you dislike it when people use it against you we understand better...

I mean You don't have to respond straight away you always could save those games for later...

also sometimes you can get a small bit of information out of it

claukkonen
04-Mar-13, 18:05

Conditional moves

That is another GK problem. Delaying conditional against an opponent means nothing. 99% of GK members are probably ok with making conditional moves and having conditional moves made against them. I have been asking GK over the years, for a simple option to not allow conditional moves. Less then 1% of us GK members would use this option. Most of my opponents respect my wish on my player page, not to make conditional moves against me. But, there are always the few, that do not and continue to make conditional move against me. Most annoying, for me.

woutstra
04-Mar-13, 18:09

well not everyone will read your player page...

anyway you still havn't told us WHY you hate conditional moves... this is not about a reason why gameknot isn't putting it in or anything

you where "complaining*" about that we did not understand you yet you don't bother to explain what your problem with it

*sorry english isn't my first language and I didn't know any other word to use but I don't mean for it to sound so negative

evader23
04-Mar-13, 18:11

I am with woutstra explain what your problem is with it

Gameknot.com
04-Mar-13, 18:29

This has been brought up by claukonen so many times now, it is not even funny any more. We have no plans to make available an option that disables/disallows conditional moves. Period. There is really no need to start yet another forum discussion about this, everything has already been said on the subject at least half a dozen times now. claukonen, we are very sorry you consider GameKnot to be "broken".

claukkonen
05-Mar-13, 17:13

Conditional Moves

GK, probably close to a year ago now, you made the comment that you are working to solve this conditional move problem. Am I not correct? I am just asking, why you have not gone forward on your comment to correct this GK problem?

Thanks, Chris

Gameknot.com
05-Mar-13, 17:34

claukonen, there is no problem with the conditional moves. We have never made a comment that we are working on solving "this conditional move problem", because... well, because there is no problem. Conditional moves are great and convenient -- they save time and speed up games.

Once again, we are very sorry you don't like them for some reason. But we are not going to introduce an option that prevents *other* players from using this convenient and useful feature, simply because you don't like it. Same reason we don't have an option that prevents the use of "analyze the board" feature by other players, or private game notes, or any other of the features available on GK. If you don't like it, simply don't use it.

claukkonen
05-Mar-13, 19:09

Conditional moves

Gk, yes you have made a comment that you are working on fixing the conditional move problem you have. I could not find your response. Probably been deleted by GK.

I like your comment.. 'If you do like it, simple don't use it'. I do not use conditional moves, so why should I have to have conditional move made against me?

Again, I am probably the less than 1% of your paying members that do not want conditional moves to be made against him/her..

GK, you have a good chess website, and continuing improvements, such as fixing your conditional move problem will continue to bring in more, new paying members..

Thanks, Chris..

3253
05-Mar-13, 20:00

conditional moves

That's like saying you don't use mating combinations, so you don't want mating combinations used against you, or you don't use your queen, so you don't want people using their queens.

If I knew someone didn't like conditional moves, I'd probably use them more, so you probably don't want to play any games with me. : )

Anyway it's all for fun, so just have a good time.

woutstra
06-Mar-13, 02:39

realy doubting wether or not this is a troll topic TC avoids all questions asking for a serious discussion tough the fact that you are trying to keep this up for over a year somehow disturbs me

iether a dedicated troll or a very sour person who is unable to adjust

algol
06-Mar-13, 20:54

Use the option to conceal condition moves

claukonen, why not check "conceal condition moves" under your preferences. Then you will not even know whether your opponent has used a conditional move or not... It is not like in postal chess where you have to work through your opponent's conditional moves.

Could this be your motif: You like to drag out some games.

game has been going on for over a year in spite of the lopsided position. You have a nice collection of those...

claukkonen
07-Mar-13, 17:46

Hiding conditional moves does nothing and serves no purpose. Your opponent has made a conditional move. An option to have conditional moves not allowed, is the best way to go.

sccadams
07-Mar-13, 21:45

There is nothing wrong with conditional moves. I use them. I don't mind if my opponent uses them. You can always derail conditional moves by making moves that are unexpected.

tactical_abyss
08-Mar-13, 15:07

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evader23
08-Mar-13, 15:41

Im with Ta conditionals are cool I use them a lot anymore

tactical_abyss
08-Mar-13, 15:59

Deleted by tactical_abyss on 08-Mar-13, 17:40.

claukkonen
08-Mar-13, 17:05

Conditional Moves

Yeah, GK is broken

They were willing to make the correct change and something happened with management..

Chris

woutstra
08-Mar-13, 17:23

broken=/= 1 person or even 1% disliking one option that isn't there

claukkonen
08-Mar-13, 19:39

Conditional Moves

Yes, GK is broken.

I have posted good comments that GK has made that I suggested in years past. Improvements GK has made. Now when I try to thank GK for these past improvements my posts get deleted. Read quick all..

Chris

sccadams
08-Mar-13, 22:47

Yeah, nothing is broken. Condition moves work how they should.

woutstra
09-Mar-13, 06:42

im done in here since you wont explain anything... i tried but its impossible. Enjoy your grumpy lifestyle sir im out

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