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tactical_abyss 19-Mar-13, 14:32 |
Deleted by tactical_abyss on 19-Mar-13, 14:42.
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tactical_abyss 19-Mar-13, 14:42 |
The old story with dust on it.... I find it hard to believe that you have not encountered this stalling more than just a few times since 2005 and almost 700 games!That is common practice in corresp chess.Sometimes its a legitimate slow down(not technically an intentional stall) due to your opponent trying to do a critical deep longer time analysis of the position to see if there is any kind of escape to not necessarily win,but possibly draw or stalemate....even if its one chance out of a thousand.For a decisive advantage to you may not necessarily be the opinion of your opponent and in some cases dosen't always mean that you will win the game for sure.I can illustrate games that I was down a Knight or even a Queen and have won or drew the game.I have even won games that my opponent announced a mate in 4 and I am about to lose!!!!!Now how is that possible you ask? Well,thats where the "other" type of "strategy"comes into play....and is called "stalling". Yes,stalls occur sometimes with the hopes that you may time-out in the game,even if you are winning.And yes,it does occur!Now,i'm not saying this is good etiquette to wait till the last hour in a losing position and your opponent "hopes"that you will time-out,kick the bucket,get stuck in a foreign country by extremists or your parachute dosen't open in a 10,000 foot freefall plunge and you time-out the game...but yes,this is the hopes of your opponent!!!! I have played one or two GK opponents in the past where I knew ahead of time that there was a "high" probability of a time-out based upon their GK history of T.O's.And sure enough,both of those games were won by me through those opponents timing-out!Now,lets say,my opponents in those games were about to win in 2 moves?So I intentionally stalled based upon perhaps a 10-14% T.O.on their profile.Isn't it worth waiting to see?It sure is!!! Now,I do not practice this procedure normally,because I am rarely in the "losing"position,so no need to stall!But if I was in the losing position and I seen that my opponent was at a 14% T.O ratio,even I under those circumstances might very well...."stall"!Now,yes,you crossquill are not at a 14% T.O. ratio,but you do have a few T.O's regardless....0.5%.Perhaps your opponent is praying?Better check your chute!Ha,ha! TA |
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tactical_abyss 19-Mar-13, 14:54 |
A million laughs...NO.But the abyss knows better! |
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tactical_abyss 19-Mar-13, 20:20 |
As to me stalling...well,with no time-outs ever in 5 years and an average move time of 2 hours or less,you can rest assure that I would not stall.But I just might stall if I was losing to someone like say,harpov.Why?Take a look at his time-out history.Need I say anymore?So,yes,there is a twisted logic in stalling,well...sometimes! |
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3253 31-Mar-13, 08:26 |
sooner or later There is a player taking forever to move, and is probably going to lose, so I'd just like to get the games done with, and the player has a 10% rate of timeouts. It's like if you're playing 5 minute chess, the other player is taking 15 minutes to move, and you have to get back to work! (I didn't say it made sense) It seems to me that if the player moves and doesn't come back for 2 or 3 days, and it's a 2 day a move game, if I move right away then that player would be more likely to time out. If I wait almost 2 days, that might be what the player is counting on. The more quickly I move, at least it reduces the game by 1 or 2 days for each move, and also it reduces the chance that I will time out, which I don't want to do! |
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sirissac 02-Apr-13, 10:42 |
Just Remeber... |
