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evader23 23-Oct-18, 10:21
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Has this happened to anyone else
The position is fairly even you play it out in your head and know that if neither side makes a mistake it will be a draw(dead position). You offer your opponent a draw. (s)he declines the draw a few moves later proceades to do something stupid and you gain an advatange and eventualy win the game. Which brings me to a secondary question. Why are people so resistant to ties. I get no one wants a the Super bowl or World seris to end in a tie. But draws in soccer or common(I think don't watch much of it) and chess is a game that if neither side makes a mistake it will be a tie. That is way there are so many at the higher levels.
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Something similar happened to me, but it was on the other end, and I made the right choice there. So, a while back, the position looked drawish, but Joann had messed up pawn structures. Long and behold, she offers me a draw. I could've declined, but I didn't see how I could win either. And, I knew that if I declined it and dragged it out, I, more then likely, would've wound up making mistakes and losing the game. Not taking any chances, I just accepted the draw offer. Then, some time later, Senior Master deeper_insight posted something about, and it was very similar to what you just posted. And, he mentioned how players decline the draw offer, make mistakes and lost the game. So, your thread is also summarized in this thread below. gameknot.com
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I think it has ! , I was offered a draw when i was white with K+R. v K and l accepted ! ..... Doh ! What a plonker ! Still can't believe I did it ! I wouldn't say I was over resistant to a draw ( er a Real Football sign not soccer that I watch all the time ! Lol ), but if there is a chance I play on awhile , can especially if I can learn something , and have won games after being offered a draw ! Well maybe 1 or 2 if I'm honest
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You did it because it, at first, doesn't occur that it's a won game. Back in the day, with just a K+R against K, I would've accepted an offer to. That was, until I first started studying the B+N endgame checkmate where you just use that with your K to mate against the lonely K. Then came things like K+R against K. Nowadays, with K+R against the lonely monarch, I'd decline any draw offer as I know what it takes to mate since I figured out the B+N. So, I don't think it was a stupid mistake, at all, amacivn, but just, a learning experience.
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You are so right , I hadn't played for over 10 years ! It was 10 ish years ago ! Unfortunately I can't get the game up anymore , I think GK deleted it as a personal favour to me 😉 lol Regards Neil
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Worse than Accepting Draw
One of my team mates recently resigned in the wrong game--the one she was ahead in. Care is necessary.
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Draw offers that go bad...
... That will happen from time to time. I once achieved a draw position against a very strong opponent (later an IM) with bishops of opposite colour and a pawn extra, with both pairs of rooks on the board. I blundered, offered the draw (not realising my mistake) and lost in a couple of moves. It was also late in the evening, and I was pretty much knackered. Not much of an excuse, is it? In my view it is a discourtesy to offer a draw when material behind, even if it is a 'book' draw. The onus is upon you to 'prove' it. The exception is if you know you can force the draw, but even then you might as well play it out. It is perfectly reasonable to offer a draw when ahead or even in material and/or position.
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