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4.3 The game is drawn upon agreement between the two players during the game. This immediately ends the game. |
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on his page #4. So sowax4 made one move and I made no moves at all. gameknot.com Either there was a disconnect or maybe I accidently hit the resign button instead of "cancel the game"?If so,then one can lose points without making even one move!! I am not sure that is proper,even if I resigned without making one move.But I am not really sure if I actually(but accidently)hit that resign button which I NEVER have done before.That is the weirdest thing yet that happed to me in any blitz room...on GK or elsewhere!I never would resign making no moves! Unless my mouse accidently(maybe?)hit the resign button?I cannot think of anything else,but perhaps something else occurred? |
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Not sure - He also lost against tatalex2, and won against tassiac with no moves made at all, although there may be something else in play there. I haven't looked any further. |
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The thing is...just to make up a 10 point loss requires MANY additional wins and no draws for me because most of my opponents are relatively low rated in blitz and mine is around 2036 as of 9/10,so the point wins for me are just fractional and tiny.Its an uphill battle. Just to be a bit more sure,I will have to cancel any future games with sowax4.But if I clearly see that I canceled the game before any of my moves were made and it happens again(with any opponent),I will leave this GK rated blitz.Even if a game disconnect occurred,there should not be a point loss or gain for anyone with only one move made,even if one fails to reconnect...at least that is what I believe with my experience on other blitz sites for years. |
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Not good.Something is strange and amiss for sure.I am use to much better blitz quality on another blitz site,but thought i'd give GK's a try.So,far,I am not liking it with the GK format and apparent issue I have had....along with simply no big competition so far.Its a waste of my time. |
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No,no, a millions times no I strongly disagree with this.So....anytime someone disconnects from the game manually with no moves made or less than 1 or two moves,they lose points??I disagree strongly.No other blitz site,as far as I am aware of does this.Its wrong...period.If I could give that point win back to keene2019,I would.Maybe I will lose one on purpose to make it fair for him next time. Sometimes I disconnect from others if I see that their blitz rating is far too small for me to find it worthy to play them.That is my right to do so.But I should be penalized for it?Perhaps it has not happened to me yet,I have to check,but from the looks of keene's game,it may very well happen to me. Even if one resigns with no moves made,instead of a disconnect,there should be no point loss. What are we playing here?Amazon swamp jungle rules?Soon...I will return to unrated blitz where wins and losses with what ever "jungle rules"exist do not fiddle with ones rating. |
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Another game with illegal results on sept 25 No moves were made on either side and I did not resign,yet chesplyr wins.Either he left the game or I before any moves were made,which is any players right to do so.So,he gained +1.6 points and I lost a whopping -9.7 points for no moves made!! You do NOT win or lose points when no moves are made!!! And I am absolutely certain I did not resign,even accidently,since this has occurred to me before and I have been VERY careful. That IS NOT legal bliitz!!! I do not care if GK answers or not.It is wrong...period. I am trying to reach 2100 in blitz and will never reach it with crap like this. I have been playing blitz on at least 6 different blitz sites for years and have NEVER encountered such gargage as this.Soon,I will just go back to unrated blitz on GK or elsewhere.Now,just those 9 points alone of loss would probably take me over 100 games(if not more)to regain those 9 points.Stunningly ridiculous and actually sickening. I guarantee if my strong blitz friends pick up on these "Kangaroo Court" rules from other blitz sites,they will never come to GK.And I will tell them not to come here. I am well respected on other sites and they will listen to me. |
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They way it's been implemented feels extremely basic and barebones, not sure if they are still developing it or just gave up on it (development work costs money, if it did not bring enough money in then they might just keep it as is and that's about it) since they post anything at all. Not to mention this is a Daily chess site, and almost no one from that crowd cares about anything else other than bullet / blitz time controls, let alone games which will take months to complete - so Im going to guess 99.99% of that crowd dont even care about Daily chess nor they know about Gameknot.com so not many new subscriptions since they implemented this feature. A few days ago I played 2 live games here on gameknot, and there were around 100 people online at the time so the feature seems quite dead already. |
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for the change in the basic rules of chess that has changed from the unrated to the rated. I have been very active in the unrated since 2005 and the basic rules should remain the same with the rated,even if the rated is "barebones".Never in the past did anyone,including me lose a game with no moves having been made or anyone win a game with zero moves made and then gain rating points or it called a win by the computer with no moves made.And in reality,the game should not yield any rating change results in 1 or 2 moves,only by the 3rd move.But I can accept the GK blitz computer to change someone's blitz rating after 2 moves,but not one move on one side and zero moves on the other side because the opponent,as black decides to leave the game and go to another opponent after whites first move.That is a legal option to do so....but I have witnessed the proper "rules"being broken in GK's rated blitz.With unrated,I could care less,because no points are being lost or gained and it does not show anything of importance on ones profile. In other words...GK's rated blitz sucks,regardless of it being in a developing stage or not. And I seriously doubt that it will improve at all in the near future. I will soon be going back to GK unrated with unjustified points(in the rated blitz) I lost when I should not have lost them.I belong to other blitz sites,and will tell others to never come to GK for the blitz.I have always loved the regular GK corresp games and its interface and format. But the blitz?Ha ha...i'd rather eat a bucket of nails before saying one good word about it. |
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Another ridiculous flaw in the GK blitz games... then disappears and I lose the game with ruben053 making one move and I made no moves at all. No,I did not resign,that would be dumb.And I did not cancel the game because I always look who I am playing and this player I would never turn down.In the past,I even saced my Queen by move #3 and still beat this fine gentleman for years when it was unrated blitz.This GK blitz is going beyond retarded to the point of being utter ridiculous.No, my connection did not fail either.So,I lose 6 points,making no moves and it will take another 60+game wins to get those 6 points back at the trickle level of fractional points I get for a win.... 0.01,0.03 ect ect. I love blitz,but to be "robbed"of points when I did not even have a chance to play....is beyond retardation.So,I must leave the GK blitz to you guys or else I will go insane.I have played rated blitz for decades on other chess sites and GK blitz takes the cake....yes,cake with shards of glass and nails hidden in the cake. gameknot.com |
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Yet another big faulty glitch in blitz 5/0 Something is not only rotten in Denmark,but has maggots piled up the height of Mt Everest. In fact,I could not have played this game at all! My opponent moved 1.e3 which is not the strongest move to play and would have definitely responded IF I had the chance to respond!!! Never had the chance to respond because this game never appeared to me until AFTER I checked my blitz record!So.1.e3 by my opponent then I suddenly lose as black not even having a chance to move because there was no board to move on and no game to respond to!! After about 38-40 years of playing blitz online with about 12 different blitz sites... I have NEVER seen such utter ridiculous nonsense in my entire experiences of playing blitz with some of the best in the world online. I lost one game to this guy prior,yes,but somehow,another game "mysteriously appeared" with the same date markings.So,that was not even my game!Could not have been,for I would have remembered his 2600+rating show up like the other game and I always check my opponents before making my first move.And I never turn down someone who had a 2600+regular game rating as his appears on the blitz gameboard.Even I LOVE to be taught a lesson being defeated. But not with computer glitch like the link above and others. This is happening too many times and I suspect to others as well,even if they are not reporting it.I keep saying that I am going to quit GK blitz with false reads and unfair things going on like in my above posts.I think this time I will be forced to leave GK blitz until one day it becomes normal and has no glitch's in the system.When a game suddenly appears that never even played and then I lose to a ghost game....its time to leave GK blitz.If I was a billionaire,I would buy out GK with my first goal.....to take a 50 pound sledge hammer and smash the blitz computer to dust.I will keep all the rest,but the blitz part goes until it brought up to normal specs like ICC and other blitz sites. |
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So,I have a 2477 rating on GK,a 2100+blitz rating to date on GK and a 2530 blitz rating on another chess site.Yet....I am losing games with either no move being made or "supposedly"one move being made by me and then losing.No,no,no,no.....NO! What is this...The Twilight Zone? Where's my sledgehammer? |
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kingdawar 14-Jan-24, 02:34 |
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kingdawar 14-Jan-24, 02:35 |
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Thank you Kingdawar What is really strange goes beyond just that 3-5 move abort as you mentioned. Although having an automatic abort check would have solved the issue before move 2 or 3. I suppose? What I clearly noticed and it may seem hard to believe is that the game in question with my most recent opponent with only 1 move made,NEVER EVEN APPEARED on my monitor screen!!It must have been a recorded loss right after my legal loss with the same opponent at move #39.Both game events seem back to back with a computer glitch. So,no game even appeared for me to play!!!Yet,I lost.I know this as fact because of my opponents big yellow profile icon which only appeared once,not twice.I would have noticed that instantly like I did for the first game for it stands out vibrantly. So,yes,I can again,as in the past,gain those points back after a 100+games or more,but it will probably only be followed by yet another illegal loss of points from the GK blitz monster machine of despair.So its an uphill battle of nonsense and my time wasted. I wonder if the blitz system is bad enough to have me lose points in an unrated game? I was going to go back to the original unrated board,but last time I went,it was a ghost town,since most players now play the rated. |
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One more for the record books with this blitz system Never played this guy at all and his board never appeared in front of me.So,I am losing points for no reason.Read this again:I never even had a chance to respond or play this guy!!So,I could not have resigned from a board that never appeared.Its a false board read and report! WOW.I never knew something could be as screwed up as GK blitz.My friends from other chess sites must be warned to NOT come to GK ever.And yes,they will listen to me.So GK loses potential business. Not in over 40 years of playing blitz online have I EVER seen such nonsense in my life. Now,thats about 9 points lost today from games I never played!!!! It does not matter what the record reflects!!!For it is all false.My past club members know how my blitz games go and simply know that O never lose games with one move,no moves made.But losing to a board that never appeared to me.....is a NEW ONE!!! I must quit GK blitz rated.If you guys want to play me in blitz,you will from now on only see me in the unrated section of blitz as in the past at 5/0 time settings. Insanity x the power of a grant number squared. Its one thing to have a few glitches in the rated blitz...but its a totally different ballgame when I lose games with no board even appearing to me in the first place from the opponent!! TA |
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But I will still play only unrated until I see a BIG change in this wonderful rated GK blitz. Chances of getting my points back however,is probably the equivalent of falling off a skyscraper with no parachute or wings,then landing on my feet after falling at 180MPH and walking away. |
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Another final report to GK and others.... gameknot.com Here is his response: Hello, pop_queen_legend, "Yes, I saw you appear and wrote in the comments section, "Happy New Year to you and your family!" The return message read that you could not receive messages because it was turned off. Then you disappeared. I'll definitely check my Blitz record to confirm but that's pretty disappointing that your record would be affected without us ever engaging in a game"! The problem is,is that I never wrote that and a blitz chessboard never appeared to me to play this player!!I do have my blitz board chat turned off BECAUSE I do not wish to chat or write a message to my opponent,nor receive any chat messages. If that is not the pure definition of strange...I do not know! In a 5 minute game,I have no time to make comments and while "Happy New Year"is a nice thing to write, I did not write it to anyone,nor did I play that gentleman in the game above.I had played him in the past but not on 1/14/24. So,I am losing rating points without even engaging the opponent in a game, for there is no board appearing for me to engage him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wonder if someone is getting into my account and playing a joke to keep my blitz rating down?Time to leave rated blitz,for ghosts can be evil or benign and I am not sure about this ghost who is following me around. |
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Not that it will help,especially if someone from the GK staff themselve is playing around,but for now,its all I can do.If my regular games are ever affected,then I will leave GK permanently. The blitz here on GK to me is now a big waste of my time,especially with dumb things happening to me as well as others.But when chessboards begin to appear to my opponents with my name on it and that same board never appears to me during a scan for games,then something is seriously wrong in a BIG way. I suggest to others to also write in this thread or other thread posts any similar events in blitz that has occurred to them. |
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A computer does not say...."happy new year to you and your family". I never said those words to anyone except to a personal message using my PM and not in ANY blitz game.And even then,I never used the word..."family".So those words shown to jeffrey165 in that link never were written by me!!!Above,he was quoted as saying I wrote those words in a blitz board chat then I "disappeared". No,no,a thousand times no,there is an imposter on GK. Tonight,I will watch an episode of the Twilight Zone and see if I can spot my blitz board there. |
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pop_queen_legend 16-Jan-24, 07:28 |
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Perhaps I read into the message wrong and it was Jeffrey,not me that wrote Happy New Year,ect ect.That is fine...except for one major thing: My blitz gameboard appeared in front of him,but NOT me!!! THAT is the difference!And that is besides the point.Why? Because I should not be losing with no moves being made on my side like here. And even if it is a loss,no points should be subtracted from my blitz point record. I did not even have a chance to respond,for this board never appeared to me to even respond to! And,no it was NO internet disconnect either,not on my side anyway and if a disconnect would have occurred,then the "reconnect"window always appears to click on to: gameknot.com If you notice above in that quote,Jeffrey wrote that my board appeared to him,then I disappeared!! No,no.In fact,Jeffrey and myself are friends and have chatted several times in PM's.He is a fine gentleman. So.... I CANNOT "disappear" when there was no place to disappear from in the first place!!! Perhaps the blitz computer or someone made my board disappear,but not me! So,no,no,a thousand times no.Why?Because I have always defeated Jeffrey several times in blitz in the past.Just scan through my record and see for yourself.So,in no way,would I have his board appear in front of me,then suddenly leave or resign when I can win again. So,ghost games are appearing then disappearing for opponents.I cannot be the only one as someone pointed out in a previous post somewhere.It was garos that showed me one or two other players that had the same strange results.But I suspect dozens more,but they are not reporting it. After losing points several times now with an illegal blitz system here and a faulty blitz GK program glitch, even I have given up in the blitz room.Time to leave.I will be returning to ICC,for they have no issues like on GK. The unrated is mainly dead as well.I tried a few times and no one was in the unrated section at all,so I left.But if I ever do return to blitz in a few months(maybe)it will now only be unrated. For the GK rated blitz has more bugs in it than the Amazon jungle has bugs in it! And I hate bugs!Get the spray and nets out!! Best to all, Happy New Year from St Barts! Joe TA |
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pop_queen_legend 25-Jan-24, 09:06 |
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pop_queen_legend 25-Jan-24, 09:23 |
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More illegal wins by others This has occurred to me several times and probably to dozens of others on GK.So,you win games,gain some nice rating points,then later be shot down in shame by losing several rating points for no reason....gaining a net of sometimes zero point gains,maybe less.Its ok for the winning player,but not the loser who did nothing to lose the game in the first place!His opponent did not even make one move!Like me,the board never even appeared in front of me to even make a move!! gameknot.com gameknot.com So,when I use words like "retardation"by GK to even allow this to occur....I mean it! No excuse,none.Fix it...period.I would rather see GK rated blitz completely disappear all together,rather than leave this stupidity continue. Others are encourged by ME to post their losses as well with a GK blitz system that has more holes in it than swiss cheese! I love GK for a hundred different reasons and I am a life member to prove my dedication to GK.But the rated blitz part?Toss it in the garbage and burn it at 6,000 degrees to not only burn it,but vaporize it to nothingness.Then...collect the vapor in a canister and send it into outer space beyond the distance of Pluto,so we never see it again. TA |
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Now...let me get the planet charts out to plot a spacecraft venture,carrying the vapor(as I mentioned above)with GK's blitz system.Maybe in a few million years the vapor will reach Andromeda,giving some galactic aliens a laugh. |
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Ever hear the statement...."This takes the cake"? gameknot.com Thats fair...right?I mean,no moves being made on either side and I win!!!! I will continue my crusade against GK ignorance for not fixing these issues. I remember clearly that chesplry simply cancelled the game and did not resign,because my board message told me so.WOW.....sometimes you cannot even cancel a game without getting penalized? Then,I just happen to check my blitz game record and noted that win with a game we never even played against each other!!!! If I could return the fractional win point back to chesplyr,I would. Utter and ridiculous nonsense.GK rated blitz should appear in that movie: "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest".The game would make millions laugh so hard,they would turn blue and need oxygen. TA |
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pop_queen_legend 07-Sep-25, 16:12 |
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pop_queen_legend 07-Sep-25, 16:27 |
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