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princevlad
11-Aug-09, 12:59

What are they hiding from?
Can someone explain a couple of things to me?

Why do some people hide their online status?

Why is there an option for keeping a game private? What is the point of that? I know you can delay the moves being available for others to see, but as I understand it, private games can never be viewed by anyone other than the players. Why would you want to do that?

Thanks

kingdawar
11-Aug-09, 14:19

"Private games cannot be viewed by other players until after the game is over"
myrydin
11-Aug-09, 14:58

Speaking for myself, I withhold my on-line status because I don't want my opponent to think that I'm going to move when in fact I am still considering my options. I don't have to explain myself, but if it helps...
steverand67
11-Aug-09, 15:33

Hiding Online Status
I hide my online status so that the aliens can't trace my whereabouts.

And also so that I don't feel rushed to make a move because my opponent knows I'm online and might be waiting around the computer for me to move. I realize that this is a bit silly, since whether my opponent wastes some time in front of his/her compute waiting for me isn't my concern, but it did affect me a little bit in the past when I didn't hide my online status.
baronderkilt
11-Aug-09, 16:41

Some Possible Reasons ...
FOR concealing online status:
1) So burglars or hit-men cannot track the times you are at home, or where-ever you compute from.
2) So that The Boss does not see someone being on a game site during work hours.
3) To discourage chatting or Move expectations if you do not feel like chatting or moving on that day.
4) To give your opponent a thrill from not knowing if you are online or not, as you tick your clock down to 2 minutes or less remaining before making your move.
5) Because some opponents that see you online may deliberately delay making their own move in your game, so that you cannot reply immediately; because they want you to have less thinking time to reply, or because they don't want Their clock running again immediately for your game.
6) To add mystery & intrigue
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PRIVATE GAMES:
A) Coaching games & showing someone great lines of play.
  Experimental games(try out new moves or plans), practice games(EG players go to selected position and try to play it, for purpose of their Chess skills...rather than defining the opening/position) or rusty player does not want the condition of their game seen.
C) Testing out your secret analysis/improvements/TN's of a critical opening against another player, before using in more important game(s). Bearing in mind that Private Game might be delayed from finishing indefinitely so as to keep "The Secret(s)" until sprung in other games.
D) To engage in conversation that is personal, not public.
E) To make others WONDER, What's Going On? (...While we talk about them, in private  
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}8-D
tactical_abyss
11-Aug-09, 19:00

Deleted by tactical_abyss on 14-Aug-09, 18:17.
princevlad
11-Aug-09, 19:39

Thanks to all
Comments much appreciated.
chessnovice
11-Aug-09, 22:45

I don't like the green dot.
untateve
12-Aug-09, 04:27

I keep my status private because in my work, my computer is typically on and I'm logged into gameknot throughout the day. Yet, there may be stretches of hours when I am nowhere near my computer. Therefore, it would appear that I'm at gameknot when in fact, I'm not.
tactical_abyss
12-Aug-09, 14:15

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tugger
12-Aug-09, 18:09

I hide my online status because I can.
tactical_abyss
12-Aug-09, 19:49

Deleted by tactical_abyss on 14-Aug-09, 18:16.
blake78613
13-Aug-09, 15:12

I hide my online status so people won't be expecting me to make a move in their games.
tactical_abyss
13-Aug-09, 16:59

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tactical_abyss
13-Aug-09, 17:42

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lighttotheright
13-Aug-09, 19:37

Yes. Moves do tend to speed up when your opponent is on-line at the same time. This happened to me fairly recently with an opponent who had his status hidden. I only knew he was on-line because he kept on making moves quickly. I just kept on playing too!

I don't make moves necessarily when opponents are on-line. Currently I make a move in the game where the time left will make it easier for me to manage my schedule. I try to prevent games from running out of time together. So I make moves that will create space in between the required moves. That allows me to concentrate on one game at a time, more or less.

I didn't used to do it this way. This practice came about when I started to play 25 to 35 games at the same time. I still probably make the same number of moves per day, but don't feel as stressed. Time trouble almost never happens, as I rarely let the clock go below 24 hours. When I do, it is because I'm busy with work. Regardless when I come back to play, I can prioritize which game needs to be concentrated upon first.

Sometimes I will catch up on all my games and start doing conditional moves. They speed up the games but don't really make a difference as to how many games there are that it is my turn. That's probably because my opponents tend to play fast when I make conditional moves. Again, probably because they are on-line.
archduke_piccolo
13-Aug-09, 23:36

I never hide my online status...
... I'm not even sure I am allowed to, as a non-paying subscriber. If someone moves whilst I'm online and I happen to spot it, then I might reply at once, but usually don't. I want to think about it. But the thing is, I might well be doing something else, checking out the forums, puzzles or playing through an annotated game.

Usually I'll look at my games first thing and write down the moves, and have a bit of a look at the position. Possibly I'll use the analysis board, just to get a bit of a feel for the position, but usually the decision is made after home analysis. Then I'll potter around the site for a while, often, though not always, coming back to 'My Games' for one last look before signing off.

If someone messages me in that time I will usually spot it and respond at once if I have time, but I won't see any moves played unless I visit the game itself. I'm not sure whether there is an option that alerts one when a move is played on one of your games, but if so, I don't use it. All my games are written down on paper (5 games to a page) and that is what I use to keep track of games.

So I find it doesn't really matter to me if anyone knows I'm on line or not. But then, I'm the sort of guy who won't answer a telephone just because its ringing...

Cheers,
Ion
jag128
20-Aug-09, 04:18

What are they hiding from
in my case nothing , i have 6 boards i allot to players who i think im likely to get a good game from, and i like to study these boards , giving my opponent the respect they deserve. I can play anything from 8-10 hrs aday, also i like to allow time for me to improve my own game , through studying opening ,middle/ end games, this i allow my self 2 hrs aday .
tactical_abyss
20-Aug-09, 08:02

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ladylinda
07-Jul-10, 14:34

why? to greatly reduce the number of requests for "private games"
I am here to play chess openly and not to chat. There are other places for that.
I don't want to change my name here. I have used it since playing chess on Sierra, years ago.
easy19
08-Jul-10, 13:21

Hiding your on line status can be very useful.


It is a bit like MSN wen you come on line just to check your email everyone starts talking to you but you just wanted to check your email. so you ignore those incoming and go offline again.

I think 50% of those people will be mad because you ignored them..
You where on line and they expect! impatient as they are, that you!! respond to them!! And if not, they think you are mad, ignore them, have a grudge, or that they are not important anymore...


on GK it is a bit different but a on line star means ah he/she will move soon but perhaps you are taking 5 hours time on just 1 game out of 50 games so people get impatient and that is most annoying...
victorian00
08-Jul-10, 14:32

i don't like the green dot either. it stems from hating hibernian football club.

oh... and celtic.

i hope this helps. it helps me.
tactical_abyss
08-Jul-10, 16:04

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myrydin
09-Jul-10, 10:31

Didn't Spassky think that something fishy was going on when the salty herrings turned up?

Anyway, I see quite a few messages in profiles complaining about players who hide their on-line status, with one even implying that it is impolite. I can't get my head around this logic; how can it be impolite or in any way wrong to exercise a right that GK has made available to you? It's like complaining when somebody parks a car legally in a designated parking space.

TA is quite right that the grievance is only in the eyes of the beholder.
baronderkilt
09-Jul-10, 11:18

myrydin ...
Good point. But how do you feel if someone parks their car across three parking spaces?!! lol Anyway, this has me thinking, maybe its a matter of degree? If i turned my light on from midnight to 6 am , would everyone be happy!?  
Which brings up Another point; maybe they ARE turning their light on 16 hours a day, but turn it off when they are actually Online. Ahhhh. See we just dont know. In fact, I have been doing this for six-months just to catch up on light-on time . . . Well okay, not really.
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BUT its a bit like this. If you are on their Friend aka Buddy List, then you Can see when they are online. So if you are not sparking a thousand points light, and a friendlier machine gun hand ...
Wait, I went too far with that quote, didnt I. Anyway, maybe you have not been Friendly Enough ...Eh? Or at least outgoing enough to buddylist with others . . .
baronderkilt
09-Jul-10, 11:20

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kingdawar
09-Jul-10, 11:21

There are some things about the show online feature that "should be" polished

1 - users that you have put in your ignore list still are able to see when you are online/when you were last online

2 - people that aren't logged in or that don't even have an account can see exactly if you are online or when you were last online
baronderkilt
09-Jul-10, 11:31

oww of course

only that first bit is to myrydin. I agree with him ... what's the problem?

BUT, or PS/BUT if you prefer; THIS does bring up a VERY INTERESTING QUESTION~! If YOU are complaining about lights off, but are NOT Buddy-Listing, (AHA~!) well what the H are you HIDING FROM !!???

sign me pls ....
"Sincerely or otherwise, }%-D Rolling eyes with hands thrown to Heaven, as I Kiss The Sky "
tactical_abyss
09-Jul-10, 16:17

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tactical_abyss
09-Jul-10, 16:26

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