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garos
04-Feb-10, 16:33

Automatic challenge rules

How is it that I can be challenged by a 1200 rating player (2 completed games) when the
challenge rules should automatically decline it when there is 500+ points difference? Okay, it isn't
much over 500, but definitely over. This is a fixed margin, not one I can adjust, either way. It
may be different for premium members.

kingdawar
04-Feb-10, 17:18

His provisional rating may have been higher without it being shown (during the first five games)

tactical_abyss
04-Feb-10, 17:56

Deleted by tactical_abyss on 04-Feb-10, 18:02.

tactical_abyss
04-Feb-10, 18:08

My very first game was against liencam2 and I was not one point more than 1200 provisional.He was,I believe 1712 or more.I was not a premium member yet.So figure that one out!Also,as I was still 1200 provisional,I messaged other opponents higher than 1700 to ask if they would challenge me in games after I beat liencam2.If they challenge me,then I was able to also play against 1700+players quite easily.

garos
05-Feb-10, 00:15

Heinzkat

No, he had only played two other 1200 rated players. Not that it really worries me, I'm just
interested to know how it can occur when the rules are as below:

Opponent's rating must be less than 500 points below
and no more than 500 points above your rating.

Please note: these rules can prevent other players from challenging you to a game (unless all of
the conditions above are met, of course).

tactical_abyss - these rules are supposed to be automatic. Perhaps you can get around them by
requesting challenges, as you did?

tactical_abyss
05-Feb-10, 02:14

garos,
Yes,if you request challenges through a sent message,that is one way of getting around the auto rules,since it is up to the higher rated non provisional player to accept and send me a challenge.The thing is that if you look at my first game it says...."challenge from winds of wisdom".(That was my name back then).Well,I don't remember anymore,but I assume that I must have challenged him directly without messaging him...yes,no?And if I challenged him directly,wasen't his rating OVER 1700?Check to see.I assume it was either 1712 or 1731.Perhaps the system DOES allow a slight amount of points over the 500 level ceiling from time to time.If liencam2 was only 1700,then,ok,I stand corrected,but I do not see that looking at his records,mine or the game board.If liencam2 accepted my game request after I messaged him,it would say "challenge from liencam2".So the question remains....was liencam2's rating at 1700 when we began the game or was it higher?It looks to me that it was higher than 1700!?

kingdawar
05-Feb-10, 20:11

If he has played two other 1200s, his provisional rating can be as high as 1600? And maybe those two other 1200s had played two games already as well, making his provisional rating even higher?

rallyvincent
30-May-10, 08:18

Why is it that my automatic decline challenge rules are set to 500 points +/-? Suddenly, my best bud on this site cannot challenge me anymore. I can't change the setting (obv.) since I am a free user. Using >reset< has no effect. Is it really so that I can only play within that range from now on (that has no appeal to me at all).

kingdawar
30-May-10, 08:45

Strange rule

Sometimes it kicks in sometimes not, not sure how to circumvent

grege79
31-May-10, 19:45

Can you still challenge him? It may only be your settings, not his.

black_cat_hamlet
31-May-10, 22:36

Yeah....

You should be able to - higher players can challenge lower players to a game

rallyvincent
01-Jun-10, 03:35

I can challenge him, but what if he attempts to change his settings sometime, too? When I saved my changes of >minimum seven days<, my limit for higher rated players also changed to 500 points difference, and if his do, I won't be able to challenge him either in the future. Anyway, I contacted GK about this and will see what they say about this.

rallyvincent
02-Jun-10, 14:52

Problem answered

Just to keep you informed; I got word from GK. +/- 500 rating points range is the default setting, adjustment is only possible for premium members (anymore). Quick answer, if anything.

maca
03-Jun-10, 11:15

...

Well, that's a silly restriction, IMHO.

Regards,
MaCa.

black_cat_hamlet
04-Jun-10, 02:43

There are quite a few 'silly restrictions'

Such as that, the fact you can't change your username and the recent Database limitation.... Yup, all very silly indeed

tactical_abyss
04-Jun-10, 04:38

The sillyness is all a matter of relative opinion.
Premium paying members should get more options than non paying members,else why pay for something and get nothing more in return?
Perhaps its GK's way of saying...pay alitle,add alittle more support and you will get alittle more in return!So the "little" things like user name changing,add banners disappearing,increased database and gameloads,increased loading speed,auto decline settings being different ect ect....all are part of a plan to perhaps "persuade"players that would like these added options to become a premium member.If one cannot afford it,thats understandable,but one must also understand that you cannot always get what you desire like that special piece of candy,if you can't come up with the "moola"as we say in America!
I'd like a new Corvette too,but I can't afford it,so i'll have to drive around my old 1987 Corvette in the meantime and be satisfied.Motto?

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