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ketchuplover 29-May-17, 16:33 |
 Most embarrassing defeat ever...A hard lesson for the global chess community. |
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Diagram... White played 1.b8=Q ... ...then resigned before Black could reply. It pays never to drop your vigilance! How could White have brought about his promotion safely, then? |
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From the above diagram... No good would be 1.Rb5 Qd2 2.b8=Q?? Qe2#. Probably White would be fine with 1.Rb6ch Kg7 2.b8=Q Qa4ch 3.Kh5! ... As Black has no useful check at d1 or e8. |
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neverherebefore 18-Jan-20, 21:19 |
Deleted by neverherebefore on 18-Jan-20, 21:22.
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2.Kh5 g4+ and mate next move |
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Yes... Aiming for completeness doesn't always work out... |
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is also legendary by many: gameknot.com Arch,baddeeds,shamash and others are the true heart and soul of GK. Even ocean-1 agree's as I see somewhere near. |
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I castled with my Queen and forfeited the game. Oops. |
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All is fair in love and war,especially if you are a lone wolf... With the lone sharks like myself many times,you will NOT see a more fluid "mix" of alternating color from white to black games.I do prefer the white,but,if you check my past game history,I have played many games as BLACK with some great wins and draws against many players that are much higher than me in rating or about equal in rating.Just not nearly as many others plays with black.In addition,I usually play only one game per customer,not an immediate two games with opposing colors as in many team players,ect ect. Thus...that fluid "mix"of alternating color in my game history is NOT like others.In fact,many of my opponents have asked to play black and not white. So I have "my"way to achieve my goals,which always was the elusive 2500 rating. If that "goal"means more white games and less black games,then so be it.In reality, then,any player who plays more of one color,even more black than white games is not to be called in any way shape or form....a "weaker" player or not "as good"simply based upon "my" choice or others "choices"of color play.That is an old myth,since, on the higher levels of play and especially with a good opening book,equalization occurs by midgame(if not sooner)with black just as much as white.After analyzing thousands of games over the decades,white many times does maintain a tiny fractional edge over black,but it is "not enough"to pull a win with tiny fractional + pawn edge like 1 tenth of a pawn value,for example. I am mentioning this because the words strong and defeat have interchangable meanings,depending upon the player and their rating.Even a draw with a mega strong player can be viewed as a "kind of"win for the much lesser rated player and a "kind of"loss for the,say 2600 rated player,even though it was a draw. Below,I gained 6 points just for the draw,and please take notice that I played BLACK in this game NOT white!!! My game here with rodog and I was only 2321 rating at the time and Rodog was 2637 at the time:  game With that one game playing as black(and others),I find it DISTASTEFUL when "someone"tells me that I am not a strong player,or "as strong"unless I play more alternating colors. In my history on GK(since 2005) as other sites,I have played tons of black games and in many USCF tourneys,a player MUST play both colors,but in a TOURNAMENT.But I am in no tourneys and never plan to be in a tourney.At the USCF,I was in many tourneys,both OTB and C.C.So more than once in these forums "someone"says or "hints"that I am not a good player or stronger player based upon less fluidity of color choices.Not true and incorrect.So,I must find these remarks both distasteful and humorous at the same time,especially if the one who makes remarks would almost certainly be crushed by me on the chessboard.Just saying. TA Joe |
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euro_pop_legend 01-Jan-25, 20:42 |
Deleted by euro_pop_legend on 01-Jan-25, 20:50.
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white games,my "win ratio"is far less than my draw ratio to date: won 43,lost 25 and a whopping 136 draws.So,I am not suddenly winning "more"games as white!I lost close to half my games playing white for the most part or approx.On my level,draws will always be the "theme"and not the exception,especially on 2500+levels. Again,as in other threads,I find it very humorous when "someone"trys to paint a false picture of me and others based upon choice of color or not playing as much the exact same ratio of white to black.Need I say anymore? TA Joe |
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Truthfully,I have none or cannot remember any EXCEPT one USCF postal game I played in the 1990's and I still won that one,but with rare exception and a story behind it. I could have lost it,but did the "unexpected"! To abridge the storyline... A legal accepted move goes by the earliest date on the postcard,especially if ambiguity occurs or a blunder move with more than one card sent. I had sent my blunder move to my opponent in Oregon which would have cost me a Knight. I suddenly realized that when I came home from mailing the chess postcard an hour later. I went back to the US mailbox and noticed that the mail would not be picked up until 5pm the NEXT day(Monday) and it was 10am on a Sunday. Follow me so far? So,not wanting to lose the prize tourney I was in($125.00 for a 7 player section),I wrote out another move(the correct one this time) and went IN to the post office when they opened on Monday,placing my move in an overnight pouch that was to reach Oregon from Pa... long before the postcard would have reached my opponent in about 3 days. It cost me like 10 dollars at that time,just to send out a corrected move! Now,what about the first postcard? The postmark and time on my overnight pouch was to be "earlier"than the postcard I first mailed out! So,legally,by postal chess rules,the receiver of both the card and the overnight pouch must accept the earliest postmark and timestamp on the move! Kapish? So,it might have cost me about 10 dollars for that move,but I did indeed win the 125.00 tourney,so I came ahead.I sweated that one out,for my opponent was going to appeal,but I used psychology to prevent him from doing that,telling him that the game will only be delayed for another month and that he has a good chance to beat me.But I lied! I knew that I was about to crush him in that game after I corrected my blunder!But I was not going to tell him that. Now,who on Earth would send a chess move out and pay 10 dollars to do an overnighter? Answer: ME! TA |
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Blacks and Whites... Do I have a preference? Not really. That I have never noticed the disparity in games played is probably indicative. Openings with the Black pieces are a trifle problematic, but the opening was always the weak point in my game. Here is an VERY embarrassing loss from when I was a kid (this was nearly 60 years ago), playing with my younger brother (who had very little interest in the game). Having seen the Anderssen-Kieseritzky 'Immortal Game' I wanted to try out the Bishop's Gambit. So I had White. 1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Bc5 Qh4 4.Kf1 Bc4 ... You can see what's going to happen, eh? So fixated on development and how the game was like to go, I was completely blind to the threat: 5.Nf3... A good developing move, and beginning the queen chase that featured in the early phase of the Anderssen game. 5... Qf2#. OK, this was a pick-up game at home, and no one was watching. But the embarrassment factor was still a 10. Lesson learned?! |
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euro_pop_legend 06-Jan-25, 07:03 |
Deleted by euro_pop_legend on 06-Jan-25, 07:21.
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A few of my legendary Q sac games from 2017,plus "something else": I hear about all the snow across the USA today.Well,good luck!I won't even be returing to Palm Beach Fl until later in the summer.Being a bit bored today on the beach,I thought that I would inject a bit of eye opening fun for some that like to observe the unexpected and unusual.Have a nice read,while I consume yet another margarita!.... "Embarrassing" game defeats can be with my opponents as well,even in 5/0 minute blitz games. Since blitz is now rated on GK,there is a more sense of caution,care,wanting to win more,including even embarrassment or my opponent kicking themselves for being so unobservant to what the opponents did wrong.Much of that is due to lack of central board control,lack of theory and of course,not knowing what to do in quicker time controls.Yes,blitz is "poor mans chess lobster",but is still very popular around the globe.I have mastered the 5 minute blitz with intentional zero incremental time.For,if I am beginning to lose,I have methods to complicate the game,speed up my moves and psychologically force my opponent to slow down,think and then time-out! Now,these are blitz,not regular CC games,but yes,I have included at least 3 games that WERE NOT blitz.No,I would not play this in my regular GK games,since my opponents are usually 2400-2500 or higher.That would be suicide.But in blitz,its a different world and a fun world to prove a point "TA style".All these games are actually to teach a true"lesson"to those who think that weak opening moves from Q sacs to my "hyper reverse" Alekhine games are simply dumb and they would win against my so called "nonsense".Do they win? 98% of the time: No. And that is with players from 1200 to about 2100.I just do not have all my games here in these two links. You want bizarre and strange with everything from my Q sacs by move #3 to massive loss of tempo and position with my first 10 Knight moves in the second link,well begin your journey with these fun blitz games that you will never see again and in quite the same way.I win them all or time-out my opponent and I am certain they are embarrassed,whether they admit it or not.The motto is that even in longer time controls,what I have noticed is that the same players losing to very weak moves in the opening by their opponent and have many of the same "bad habits"of insufficient dark and light square control,weak exchanges,no central control,frozen Knights on the end files and many other things.And this only magnifies itself in blitz for them. Enjoy the bizarre: gameknot.com A few Q sac games from 2017. gameknot.com My game of patience,waiting like a spider for weakness from my opponents before I pounce on them.All my opponents had to do to win was set up a strong defense first,then use offensive play later.But,easier said than done in 5 minutes! Note,however!:Game 2,3,and 4(in this second link) are NOT blitz games but regular corrsep games with several days to think! Somewhere,I have several games of blitz with Q sacs against two 2300+players and I won,but I cannot find them right now.If I do,I will post them.Yes,wins with a 9 point opening handicap with only a pawn for compensation and against 2300 players! Rare.I will keep looking,I must have it somewhere! Best, TA |
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More Q sac games...2015,2016 Have fun! gameknot.com gameknot.com |
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euro_pop_legend 06-Jan-25, 15:21 |
Deleted by euro_pop_legend on 06-Jan-25, 15:46.
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P.S. What bothers me to some extent,is remarks by other relatively "weak players"(without mentioning names)that someone must play alternating colors all the time to be considered "strong"by their way of thinking.Wrong and a faulty way to think.Calling me "weak"in so many words and even hinting at that,is disgraceful.And that is magnified if the player is trolling others as is the case with me as well as someone else..just saying.People wonder why I get mad once in a while?It does not take much of a thought process to understand why so.So,its more than just a misunderstanding with a player that is "weaker",it IS more intentional and as an "irritant" done on purpose.Thats the difference and it is a big difference.But now,I will just report them and not bicker with them in these forums,else I will get myself in hot water.My blitz games above are all random color set by the GK computer.So,perhaps that is more evenly split between colors,I have never really checked.And as you can see...it does not matter if I play white or black in blitz....I drop the anvil on my opponents with either color equally for decades. Best all, TA |
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euro_pop_legend 06-Jan-25, 16:15 |
Deleted by euro_pop_legend on 06-Jan-25, 16:59.
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So...game Then,that only proves that playing another 100 games as white and not black is meaningless to me.For,if I can accomplish beating or drawing with the black side as in the game (above) with a very ultra strong player(and I have more as black),then am I to be called a weak player by playing mainly white and not as much black?Again,of course not!Some of my critics have MUCH to learn,but then I cannot teach someone who will never listen in the first place.I am too old for that now.By the way,many players north of me in rating have not only played more games than me,but their average players are many times lesser rated than my opponents...so they get small point gains that add up over time.Rodogs "average" opponents were: 2370.Mine as you can easily check were averaging:2408.So,a bit higher than Rodog.Food for thought.I supppose if I were to play,say,another 50 players between 2200 and 2300 and win most as I suspect that I would,then I might also reach 2600.Its all how one manages the games and not what color they play.My strategy however,is to play for the draw with the "big guns"and gain smaller points that way,rather than risk a draw with a 2200 players(maybe)and lose probably 6 or 7 points. How I accomplish that is up to me,whether playing the black or white side.And as you can see above in that game link with Rodog,I have no problem as the BLACK player getting to my goal. I am happy with 2505 for now.That was my goal and I reached it. |
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The FRED strike again! gameknot.com |
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Anyway, I try to play black at least as much as white, but I see nothing wrong with players preferring to take the white pieces. |
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